Legal fee's really? You sent feces in the mail tied up a safety hotline for hours and claim because it did not fit a Rico offense you are not guilty of doing anything wrong? Priceless!
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cactusboy53 said:
Ok, it was "fair". So what? "Fairness" resides in a very wide range of reasonableness. Personal ideas of "fairness" are very subjective and irrelevant as things shake out in the process of ratifying a contract. It is what is it.
Your obsession with implicitly assuming your favorite "fair" list could be used as powerful evidence of your selfishness. When the MB list is finally implemented you can be assured it will be "fair". Relax, it may be exactly what you want, or it might not be.. but it will be legal and enforceable, rather than just a lousy ALPA(i.e. POS) proposal.
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Comment noted.Phoenix said:
I thought no comment was needed.
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ill take your word on it that i lost the case....snapthis said:
but I'm still bidding with my DOH and there is "no bump/no flush", so, would this be a situation where I lost the case bur won the war?
west pilots usually brake hard at KPHL and usually exit 27R at N or K4 to avoid seeing the 330 fleet lined up. The 2004 hires have kept the senior AWA pilots from them for years. It is too much to bear.......im back..!! said:
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Yea, that made sense. I'll see you in PHL soon, Dorothy.Claxon said:
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cactusboy53 said:
Found on the Internet ..........Mr. Nice Guy?
https://mobile.twitter.com/cactusboy53
I would have to disagree, you are no Christian and not a nice guy.
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"U-Turn This is one U-Turn we really wish we didnt have to put out, but the furloughs are coming. What does AWAPPA tell the pilot group to do? Nothing, except harass the new union."
One AWAPPA supporter is begging for contributions on the Internet (cactusboy53 @ forums.flightinfo) for the AWA PILOTS LEGAL EXPENSE TRUST to help pay for the lawsuits. AWAPPA turned its back on its supporters, this is what cactusboy53 posted:
As one of the named defendants targeted by USAPA, I have had to organize the financial defense of those not represented by AWAPPAwe, the individual defendants must establish our own defense team and the cost may be high financially. The ten of us, The Cactus 10, who are not on the AWAPPA Board of Directors need your help!
You're a class act Simmions.
"Now our former MEC Officers are running AWAPPA and The Army of Leonidas. Why would anybody follow them? "
One AWAPPA supporter is begging for contributions on the Internet (cactusboy53 @ forums.flightinfo) for the AWA PILOTS LEGAL EXPENSE TRUST to help pay for the lawsuits. AWAPPA turned its back on its supporters, this is what cactusboy53 posted:
As one of the named defendants targeted by USAPA, I have had to organize the financial defense of those not represented by AWAPPAwe, the individual defendants must establish our own defense team and the cost may be high financially. The ten of us, The Cactus 10, who are not on the AWAPPA Board of Directors need your help!
You're a class act Simmions.
"Now our former MEC Officers are running AWAPPA and The Army of Leonidas. Why would anybody follow them? "
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Oh, but I really do. See you soon. Big smiles!Phoenix said:
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"May 6, 2008, AWAPPA legal counsel Jeffrey Freund posted the following warning to former America West pilots on the AWAPPA Web Board: If we are negligent in that responsibility, we open ourselves up to litigation from the company and/or other pilots."
58. Defendant Auxier’s postings on the AWAPPA Web Board end with the message, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”
48. In a March 18, 2008, letter to former America West pilots, defendant McIlvenna, a director of AWAPPA and Leonidas LLC, declared “war against USAPA” and stated that “there are plans in place to destroy USAPA should they prevail as our bargaining agent.”
55. Even before the release of the election results, the defendants and their co-conspirators encouraged America West pilots to sabotage the USAPA toll-free hotline by flooding it with frivolous calls. Upon information and belief, on April 16, 2008, defendant Krueger posted a message on the AWAPPA website message board (www.awappa.org) (hereinafter referred to as the “AWAPPA Web Board”), in which he wrote, “Whatever the [election] results, I think we should all call the USAPA hotline over and over again to confirm them.”
60. Between April 24 and April 27, 2008, defendant Tooke made 152 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number from his cellular telephone. Upon information and belief, Tooke’s cellular telephone carrier is Intermedia Communications, Inc., and his cell phone number is
66. Defendant Auxier’s postings on the AWAPPA Web Board end with the message, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”
78. In violation of N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-196(1), the defendants and their co-conspirators have used profane, indecent, vulgar and threatening language in telephone voicemail messages to USAPA, its officers, and individual US Airways pilots. These messages have been delivered in an effort to intimidate and harass USAPA, its officers, and individual US Airways pilots.
79. On May 4, 2008, a caller left a voicemail message on the Union telephone extension of USAPA’s Vice President, Mike Cleary, stating, “Hey scab … Get ready to bend over and take Nicolau.” The call was made from telephone
89. On or about May 26, 2008, the U.S. Postal Service informed USAPA that injurious articles, including rocks, have been sent through the mail addressed to USAPA’s post office box. There were also two instances in April 2008 of envelopes containing feces being sent through the mail to USAPA’s post office box. Upon information and belief, such mailings were made with intent to injure other persons, the mails or other property. The mailing of such nonmailable matter violates 18 U.S.C. § 1716, and subjects the person(s) responsible to fine or imprisonment of not more than twenty years, or both. The U.S. Postal Service has requested USAPA’s assistance in identifying the responsible parties and putting an end to this unlawful conduct. Upon
116. Upon information and belief, on April 19, 2008, defendant Gabaldon posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
I will NOT allow any scab to ride my jumpseat (in the interest of safety). … I’m networking all of my ALPA friends at other carriers to put forth motions before their MEC’s to deny jumpseats to ALL USCABAS.
117. Upon information and belief, on April 28, 2008, defendant Auxier posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
Hey, the UAL guys have the balls to deny the Eastholes, the least we can do is follow suit. They are the pariahs of the industry, and frankly I think it IS unsafe to have them on our jumps. They’ve made their bed, now they get to lie in it. Plus – damn good point – they would be quicker than a hard up Fed to bust us for the slightest infraction. Nuff said. I’m on board – just itching to deny one to his face!
132. Upon information and belief, on or about May 30, 2008, defendant Auxier posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
Got my UScab letter yesterday. I tell ya, it felt mighty good to rip it in 2 w/o reading it and stick it in the return envelope, postage due! Oh yeah, I DID save all the Scab Officers’ email/phone list just in case I ever need to blast email them spam sites or give them an emergency call at 3am or something…..:
This posting ended with Auxier’s usual tag line, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”
58. Defendant Auxier’s postings on the AWAPPA Web Board end with the message, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”
48. In a March 18, 2008, letter to former America West pilots, defendant McIlvenna, a director of AWAPPA and Leonidas LLC, declared “war against USAPA” and stated that “there are plans in place to destroy USAPA should they prevail as our bargaining agent.”
55. Even before the release of the election results, the defendants and their co-conspirators encouraged America West pilots to sabotage the USAPA toll-free hotline by flooding it with frivolous calls. Upon information and belief, on April 16, 2008, defendant Krueger posted a message on the AWAPPA website message board (www.awappa.org) (hereinafter referred to as the “AWAPPA Web Board”), in which he wrote, “Whatever the [election] results, I think we should all call the USAPA hotline over and over again to confirm them.”
60. Between April 24 and April 27, 2008, defendant Tooke made 152 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number from his cellular telephone. Upon information and belief, Tooke’s cellular telephone carrier is Intermedia Communications, Inc., and his cell phone number is
66. Defendant Auxier’s postings on the AWAPPA Web Board end with the message, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”
78. In violation of N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-196(1), the defendants and their co-conspirators have used profane, indecent, vulgar and threatening language in telephone voicemail messages to USAPA, its officers, and individual US Airways pilots. These messages have been delivered in an effort to intimidate and harass USAPA, its officers, and individual US Airways pilots.
79. On May 4, 2008, a caller left a voicemail message on the Union telephone extension of USAPA’s Vice President, Mike Cleary, stating, “Hey scab … Get ready to bend over and take Nicolau.” The call was made from telephone
89. On or about May 26, 2008, the U.S. Postal Service informed USAPA that injurious articles, including rocks, have been sent through the mail addressed to USAPA’s post office box. There were also two instances in April 2008 of envelopes containing feces being sent through the mail to USAPA’s post office box. Upon information and belief, such mailings were made with intent to injure other persons, the mails or other property. The mailing of such nonmailable matter violates 18 U.S.C. § 1716, and subjects the person(s) responsible to fine or imprisonment of not more than twenty years, or both. The U.S. Postal Service has requested USAPA’s assistance in identifying the responsible parties and putting an end to this unlawful conduct. Upon
116. Upon information and belief, on April 19, 2008, defendant Gabaldon posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
I will NOT allow any scab to ride my jumpseat (in the interest of safety). … I’m networking all of my ALPA friends at other carriers to put forth motions before their MEC’s to deny jumpseats to ALL USCABAS.
117. Upon information and belief, on April 28, 2008, defendant Auxier posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
Hey, the UAL guys have the balls to deny the Eastholes, the least we can do is follow suit. They are the pariahs of the industry, and frankly I think it IS unsafe to have them on our jumps. They’ve made their bed, now they get to lie in it. Plus – damn good point – they would be quicker than a hard up Fed to bust us for the slightest infraction. Nuff said. I’m on board – just itching to deny one to his face!
132. Upon information and belief, on or about May 30, 2008, defendant Auxier posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
Got my UScab letter yesterday. I tell ya, it felt mighty good to rip it in 2 w/o reading it and stick it in the return envelope, postage due! Oh yeah, I DID save all the Scab Officers’ email/phone list just in case I ever need to blast email them spam sites or give them an emergency call at 3am or something…..:
This posting ended with Auxier’s usual tag line, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”
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