2015 Pilot Discussion.

[luvthe9]

Oh, but I really do. See you soon. Big smiles!

You'll be seeing sand for quite a while, just be glad we saved you. "Mr. Nice Guy"

 

[cactusboy53]

"U-Turn This is one U-Turn we really wish we didnt have to put out, but the furloughs are coming. What does AWAPPA tell the pilot group to do? Nothing, except harass the new union."
One AWAPPA supporter is begging for contributions on the Internet (cactusboy53 @ forums.flightinfo) for the AWA PILOTS LEGAL EXPENSE TRUST to help pay for the lawsuits. AWAPPA turned its back on its supporters, this is what cactusboy53 posted:
As one of the named defendants targeted by USAPA, I have had to organize the financial defense of those not represented by AWAPPAwe, the individual defendants must establish our own defense team and the cost may be high financially. The ten of us, The Cactus 10, who are not on the AWAPPA Board of Directors need your help!
You're a class act Simmions.
"Now our former MEC Officers are running AWAPPA and The Army of Leonidas. Why would anybody follow them? "

And you're a liar. It's OK, liars can be forgiven too.

You and your pals have forced us to defend ourselves from the tyranny of the majority. You agreed to a process and have been attempting to evade that obligation at any all means (including the 2x FAILED RICO).

You don't know the slightest thing about me, how very good and loyal friend that I am.

See you soon, Brother. It's gonna be epic.

 

[cactusboy53]

"May 6, 2008, AWAPPA legal counsel Jeffrey Freund posted the following warning to former America West pilots on the AWAPPA Web Board: If we are negligent in that responsibility, we open ourselves up to litigation from the company and/or other pilots."
58. Defendant Auxier’s postings on the AWAPPA Web Board end with the message, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”
48. In a March 18, 2008, letter to former America West pilots, defendant McIlvenna, a director of AWAPPA and Leonidas LLC, declared “war against USAPA” and stated that “there are plans in place to destroy USAPA should they prevail as our bargaining agent.”
55. Even before the release of the election results, the defendants and their co-conspirators encouraged America West pilots to sabotage the USAPA toll-free hotline by flooding it with frivolous calls. Upon information and belief, on April 16, 2008, defendant Krueger posted a message on the AWAPPA website message board (www.awappa.org) (hereinafter referred to as the “AWAPPA Web Board”), in which he wrote, “Whatever the [election] results, I think we should all call the USAPA hotline over and over again to confirm them.”
60. Between April 24 and April 27, 2008, defendant Tooke made 152 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number from his cellular telephone. Upon information and belief, Tooke’s cellular telephone carrier is Intermedia Communications, Inc., and his cell phone number is
66. Defendant Auxier’s postings on the AWAPPA Web Board end with the message, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”
78. In violation of N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-196(1), the defendants and their co-conspirators have used profane, indecent, vulgar and threatening language in telephone voicemail messages to USAPA, its officers, and individual US Airways pilots. These messages have been delivered in an effort to intimidate and harass USAPA, its officers, and individual US Airways pilots.
79. On May 4, 2008, a caller left a voicemail message on the Union telephone extension of USAPA’s Vice President, Mike Cleary, stating, “Hey scab … Get ready to bend over and take Nicolau.” The call was made from telephone
89. On or about May 26, 2008, the U.S. Postal Service informed USAPA that injurious articles, including rocks, have been sent through the mail addressed to USAPA’s post office box. There were also two instances in April 2008 of envelopes containing feces being sent through the mail to USAPA’s post office box. Upon information and belief, such mailings were made with intent to injure other persons, the mails or other property. The mailing of such nonmailable matter violates 18 U.S.C. § 1716, and subjects the person(s) responsible to fine or imprisonment of not more than twenty years, or both. The U.S. Postal Service has requested USAPA’s assistance in identifying the responsible parties and putting an end to this unlawful conduct. Upon
116. Upon information and belief, on April 19, 2008, defendant Gabaldon posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
I will NOT allow any scab to ride my jumpseat (in the interest of safety). … I’m networking all of my ALPA friends at other carriers to put forth motions before their MEC’s to deny jumpseats to ALL USCABAS.
117. Upon information and belief, on April 28, 2008, defendant Auxier posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
Hey, the UAL guys have the balls to deny the Eastholes, the least we can do is follow suit. They are the pariahs of the industry, and frankly I think it IS unsafe to have them on our jumps. They’ve made their bed, now they get to lie in it. Plus – damn good point – they would be quicker than a hard up Fed to bust us for the slightest infraction. Nuff said. I’m on board – just itching to deny one to his face!
132. Upon information and belief, on or about May 30, 2008, defendant Auxier posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:
Got my UScab letter yesterday. I tell ya, it felt mighty good to rip it in 2 w/o reading it and stick it in the return envelope, postage due! Oh yeah, I DID save all the Scab Officers’ email/phone list just in case I ever need to blast email them spam sites or give them an emergency call at 3am or something…..:
This posting ended with Auxier’s usual tag line, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”

Final & Binding

 

[luvthe9]

It's gonna be epic.

Only in your mind Davey.




Fair and equitable.........

 

[luvthe9]

Final & Binding

Apparently not.




"Scott Kirby...it went to binding arbitration but there was a requirement as part of that that the two unions negotiate a joint contract with the company, which wasnt done yet."




Just one small fact Mr. Nice Guy!

 

[luvthe9]

http://forums.flightinfo.com

05-31-2008, 09:46

Hey Cactusboy
Hey Dave,

Watch out what you post. They know who you are.
Attorneys are advised. Hope you have deep pockets .

Good luck

Marty



Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusboy53

Here's the important thing: As new USAPA pilots we must all be informed and remain informed.

If you want to find out what is going on, call USAPA's hotline. The phone number is: (877) 678-7272. If the line quality is sub-standard, move to the next pay phone and try the number again. Keep trying, because informed is empowered. If it takes 200-300 calls a day, stay informed!!!!

For those of you that are not involved in this event but have a merger on the horizon, you should call too to understand the dynamics.





Don't ever refer to yourself as a Christian, you are the farthest thing from one. No lies here.

 

[Claxon]

Yea, that made sense. I'll see you in PHL soon, Dorothy.

Dave thinks he is going to be flying the 330. The airplane Dave will actually hold in PHL is made in Brazil, and is found by subtracting 140 from the jet Dave hallucinates about flying....

 

[luvthe9]

"Without a loan guarantee we were going to find ourselves liquidating." The $380 million loan guarantee was approved on a split vote, with a Treasury official voting no and the federal government controlled a third of the company."




"But profits were elusive, and the carrier sank back into the red in 2004 as fuel prices soared. The industry overall? A staggering $42 billion in losses from 2000 to 2005."








You westies are one lucky group to be here now, you really don't belong here.

 

[luvthe9]

Washington State University
Psychology
1976 1978


Hey Dave, Was this as a patient or student? AWA was the only place that would hire a man of your stature

 

[Claxon]

http://forums.flightinfo.com
05-31-2008, 09:46
Hey Cactusboy
Hey Dave,
Watch out what you post. They know who you are.
Attorneys are advised. Hope you have deep pockets .
Good luck
Marty
Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusboy53
Here's the important thing: As new USAPA pilots we must all be informed and remain informed.
If you want to find out what is going on, call USAPA's hotline. The phone number is: (877) 678-7272. If the line quality is sub-standard, move to the next pay phone and try the number again. Keep trying, because informed is empowered. If it takes 200-300 calls a day, stay informed!!!!
For those of you that are not involved in this event but have a merger on the horizon, you should call too to understand the dynamics.
Don't ever refer to yourself as a Christian, you are the farthest thing from one. No lies here.

Nice Integrity........

 

[EastUS1]

Oh, but I really do. See you soon. Big smiles!

 
If you indeed follow Christian wisdom, well, you might wish to consider this part:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=prov%2016:18&version=KJV
 
P.S. I see an immediately posted "minus vote"....Whew!....So even Proverbs is now worthy of west contempt? 18 "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."...?

 

[cactusboy53]

Nice Integrity........

Do you remember the part where David smote Goliath? It's gonna be just a bit like that Dorothy.

Oh, and from 8 YEARS AGO? That's showing them!

 

[EastUS1]

Nice Integrity........

 
Indeed. Enough to take one's breath away even.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

http://cactus18.typepad.com/the_cactus_18/files/USAPAcomplaint.pdf



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telephone number from his cellular telephone between April 19, 2008 and May 1, 2008. Upon information and belief, Cundari’s cellular telephone carrier is Verizon Wireless and his cell phone number is (602) 510-7650.



57. Upon information and belief, defendant Auxier made 45 telephone calls, for a total of 160 minutes, to the USAPA toll-free telephone number from telephone number (505) 710-4970. Auxier made 33 of the 45 calls between May 1 and May 7, 2008.



58. Defendant Auxier’s postings on the AWAPPA Web Board end with the message, “Have you called 877-678-7272 25 times today???”



59. Upon information and belief, defendant Narloch made 30 telephone calls, for a total of 228 minutes, to the USAPA toll-free telephone number from telephone number (480) 946-2757. Narloch made 21 of the 30 calls between April 25 and April 30, 2008.



60. Upon information and belief, on April 30, 2008, defendant Hannah made 65 telephone calls, for a total of 227 minutes, to the USAPA toll-free telephone number from telephone number (480) 814-7772.

61. Upon information and belief, defendant Maree made 28 telephone calls, for a total of 153 minutes, to the USAPA toll-free telephone number from telephone number (480) 816-6127. Maree made 24 of the 28 calls on April 25, 2008.



62. Upon information and belief, on or about May 6, 2008, AWAPPA legal counsel Jeffrey Freund posted the following warning to former America West pilots on the AWAPPA Web Board:

While it is our goal to allow all America West pilots to access these forums for the purpose of unrestricted sharing of information and
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opinions, it is important to remember that these forums are owned and operated by a private corporation that can be liable for things that take place here. That liability obligates us to maintain some degree of decorum. If we are negligent in that responsibility, we open ourselves up to litigation from the company and/or other pilots.

63. A pilot identified as “CJ” posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board, in agreement with Attorney Jeffrey Freund’s warning:

All this talk of dialing USAPA over and over and other threads could be problematic for AWAPPA if USAPA or the company become aggressive.



64. However, in response to the above posting by “CJ,” defendant Vasin, a director of AWAPPA, ratified the acts of telephone sabotage by posting a message on the AWAPPA Web Board in which he stated, “No, it's ok to talk about dialing USAPA over and over .” Upon information and belief, the jeering face at the end of defendant Vasin’s message reflects the malicious intent of his directive to AWAPPA supporters.



65. AWAPPA is continuing to promote the above-described acts of telephone sabotage. On May 21, 2008, USAPA published an update message to its members, which stated, “recent news is also available on the USAPA phone message updated every few days. The news is out there; reach out and grab it!” Upon information and belief, in response to that May 21st message, defendant Braid posted the following message on the AWAPPA Web Board:

Look they said it again. Call often to stay informed. Reach out and call from every pay phone you see. What is the ambulance chaser talking about? Acts of sabotage. They said to call.



66. In addition to the above-described sabotage of USAPA’s toll-free information line, hundreds of false telephone calls have also been made to the USAPA Safety Hotline in order to sabotage that vital union service.

 

[EastUS1]

Do you remember the part where David smote Goliath? It's gonna be just a bit like that Dorothy.

 
 
http://careylohrenz.com/7-ways-to-identify-humility-vs-arrogance-in-leadership/