2015 Pilot Discussion.

[cactusboy53]

 
If I had a lottery ticket, you and 1800 others cashed it after the acquisition.
 

NAILED IT!

 

[cactusboy53]

Hey, I understand the cactus 18 is now the cactus 17, let us know if he gets his job back

PS. I guess the pen is not mightier than the sword.

 
Well, before I posted, I wanted to make sure.  I asked TWO separate sources that would actually know.
 
GUESS WHAT?  LUVTHE9 is a LIAR (AGAIN).  What a bloody SURPRISE.
 
You do realize that you've been caught in SO MANY LIES, that you will NEVER be taken seriously again.
 
Hang on tight princess.  This next arbitration will be EXACTLY like the LAST:  It will be FINAL & BINDING.

 

[cactusboy53]

[SIZE=12pt]“In this instance, despite a year of negotiating efforts, there was no agreement on a list. Subsequently, the Representatives choose the Undersigned as Board Chairman and opted for the Med-Arb process. Those mediation efforts, held over the course of five days in October 2006, were similarly unsuccessful. Thereafter, the Parties agreed on the arbitration ground rules, and, pursuant to the Policy, each chose a Pilot Neutral from ALPA's Pilot Neutral Master List as a nonvoting member of the Arbitration Board.”[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]George Nicolau, Mediator[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]AWA/AAA Opinion & Award; May 07, 2007[/SIZE]

 

[cactusboy53]

[SIZE=12pt]“Of course, in negotiating for a particular seniority regime, USAPA must not breach its duty of fair representation. Accordingly, if USAPA wishes to abandon the Nicolau Award and accept the consequences of this course of action, it is free to do so.  By discarding the result of a valid arbitration and negotiating for a different seniority regime, USAPA is running the risk that it will be sued by the disadvantaged pilots when the new collective bargaining agreement is finalized. An impartial arbitrator’s decision regarding an appropriate method of seniority integration is powerful evidence of a fair result. Discarding the Nicolau Award places USAPA on dangerous ground.”[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Judge Roslyn O. Silver, Chief United States District Judge[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS ORDER; October 11, 2012[/SIZE]

 

[cactusboy53]

[SIZE=12pt]“Actually, it is USAPA that is needlessly delaying the resolution of the seniority dispute and jeopardizing the enforceability of the agreement the parties are able to reach. …….The arbitrator’s decision was to be final and binding on both pilot groups and was to be accepted by the Company so long as certain conditions were met.  The Nicolau Award has resulted in four years of litigation including a trial in federal court and jury verdict fining USAPA’s proposal for a non-Nicolau list to constitute an unlawful breach of the union’s duty of fair representation….”[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Paul D. Jones; Vice President – Legal Affairs and Chief Compliance Officer[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Exhibit 1 of  Declaration of Counsel; Case 13-15000, 02/20/2013[/SIZE]

 

[cactusboy53]

Typical little lying scab he his.

I guess that makes you even then.  You sir, are a LYING dirtbag. 

 

[traderjake]

 
GUESS WHAT?  LUVTHE9 is a LIAR (AGAIN).  What a bloody SURPRISE.
 
You do realize that you've been caught in SO MANY LIES, that you will NEVER be taken seriously again.
 

 
 

hope your boy gets fired!

 

 
MUTT MUTT and LUVtheLIE are two of a kind

 

[snapthis]

I guess that makes you even then.  You sir, are a LYING dirtbag. 

I'm sorry you had to endure that Usapian cesspool as a rep. Glad those days are over.

 

[snapthis]

O really? Court records prove otherwise, your little choirboy act has basically come to an end !

I decided a while back that dealing with zealots was a waste of time. You make an easy target for the fact that you appealed your case and lost.

July 30, 2010
Download Final ruling 4th circuit
http://cactus18.typepad.com

On May 30, 2008 a RICO law suit was filed against me and 23 other America West pilots by our new union Us Airline Pilots Association. After being dismissed from federal court with prejudice without even going to trial. The case was so poor the judge would not even let them try again. USAPA than filed an appeal in the Fourth Circuit court of Appeals in Richmond.
Today 26 months later we finally have our answer. The Fourth Circuit in a unanimous decision upheld or affirmed the district court. This is a tremendous win for all of the Cactus 18 today. Hopefully this will put an end to the vicious and unfounded attack that the leadership of USAPA has aimed our way. Unfortunately I fear that this case may not be over.
USAPA is under pressure to deliver a contract and after two years of telling the pilots that we were criminals and had done something wrong. After spending upwards of $300,000.00 of pilot dues money they have nothing to show for it.
This is the response that the Communications Chairman put out after their loss.
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond Affirms Dismissal

Today the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, issued its ruling on USAPA's appeal of the dismissal of its lawsuit brought in 2008. USAPA filed the suit, alleging violations of the RICO Statute, against certain pilots who were alleged to be engaged in an overt attempt to deny all US Airways pilots their right to collectively bargain by attempting to destroy our union and performing other harmful and destructive acts to disrupt the unions ability to perform its representational responsibilities. The appeals court today affirmed the dismissal. Attorneys for the Association are reviewing the ruling presently for potential next steps.

Even after losing twice in two different courts in their own backyard these guys still can not admit they were wrong and let it go. The right thing to do would be to apologize and maybe even offer to pay our legal fees for this ordeal.

 

[cactusboy53]

I'm sorry you had to endure that Usapian cesspool as a rep. Glad those days are over.

No worries, Brother.  I was very happy to help out.  USAPA has been a COMPLETE comedy of ERRORS.  They promised the moon and FAILED to deliver even the sparklers & smokey-snakes.  Dirtbags.
 
I still have to shower with Lava soap, and still don't feel clean.

 

[snapthis]

No worries, Brother.  I was very happy to help out.  USAPA has been a COMPLETE comedy of ERRORS.  They promised the moon and FAILED to deliver even the sparklers & smokey-snakes.  Dirtbags.
 
I still have to shower with Lava soap, and still don't feel clean.

Your time with them is an affirmation..

THE FOOL IS UNWISE. Throughout Proverbs the fool is the counterpart of the wise. Wisdom is contrasted with folly. The fool does not possess wisdom, cannot obtain wisdom, and would not obtain it if he could.

 

[cactusboy53]

Your time with them is an affirmation..

THE FOOL IS UNWISE. Throughout Proverbs the fool is the counterpart of the wise. Wisdom is contrasted with folly. The fool does not possess wisdom, cannot obtain wisdom, and would not obtain it if he could.

True Dat! A favorite:  Proverbs 10:10 - He who winks maliciously causes grief, and a chattering fool comes to ruin.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

MUTT MUTT and LUVtheLIE are two of a kind

you are a 1 one of a kind!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I decided a while back that dealing with zealots was a waste of time. You make an easy target for the fact that you appealed your case and lost.
July 30, 2010
Download Final ruling 4th circuithttp://cactus18.typepad.com
On May 30, 2008 a RICO law suit was filed against me and 23 other America West pilots by our new union Us Airline Pilots Association. After being dismissed from federal court with prejudice without even going to trial. The case was so poor the judge would not even let them try again. USAPA than filed an appeal in the Fourth Circuit court of Appeals in Richmond.
Today 26 months later we finally have our answer. The Fourth Circuit in a unanimous decision upheld or affirmed the district court. This is a tremendous win for all of the Cactus 18 today. Hopefully this will put an end to the vicious and unfounded attack that the leadership of USAPA has aimed our way. Unfortunately I fear that this case may not be over.
USAPA is under pressure to deliver a contract and after two years of telling the pilots that we were criminals and had done something wrong. After spending upwards of $300,000.00 of pilot dues money they have nothing to show for it.
This is the response that the Communications Chairman put out after their loss.
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond Affirms Dismissal
Today the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, issued its ruling on USAPA's appeal of the dismissal of its lawsuit brought in 2008. USAPA filed the suit, alleging violations of the RICO Statute, against certain pilots who were alleged to be engaged in an overt attempt to deny all US Airways pilots their right to collectively bargain by attempting to destroy our union and performing other harmful and destructive acts to disrupt the unions ability to perform its representational responsibilities. The appeals court today affirmed the dismissal. Attorneys for the Association are reviewing the ruling presently for potential next steps.
Even after losing twice in two different courts in their own backyard these guys still can not admit they were wrong and let it go. The right thing to do would be to apologize and maybe even offer to pay our legal fees for this ordeal.

wow not one bit of actual Court documentation in that report just conjecture !

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I decided a while back that dealing with zealots was a waste of time. You make an easy target for the fact that you appealed your case and lost.
July 30, 2010
Download Final ruling 4th circuithttp://cactus18.typepad.com
On May 30, 2008 a RICO law suit was filed against me and 23 other America West pilots by our new union Us Airline Pilots Association. After being dismissed from federal court with prejudice without even going to trial. The case was so poor the judge would not even let them try again. USAPA than filed an appeal in the Fourth Circuit court of Appeals in Richmond.
Today 26 months later we finally have our answer. The Fourth Circuit in a unanimous decision upheld or affirmed the district court. This is a tremendous win for all of the Cactus 18 today. Hopefully this will put an end to the vicious and unfounded attack that the leadership of USAPA has aimed our way. Unfortunately I fear that this case may not be over.
USAPA is under pressure to deliver a contract and after two years of telling the pilots that we were criminals and had done something wrong. After spending upwards of $300,000.00 of pilot dues money they have nothing to show for it.
This is the response that the Communications Chairman put out after their loss.
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond Affirms Dismissal
Today the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, issued its ruling on USAPA's appeal of the dismissal of its lawsuit brought in 2008. USAPA filed the suit, alleging violations of the RICO Statute, against certain pilots who were alleged to be engaged in an overt attempt to deny all US Airways pilots their right to collectively bargain by attempting to destroy our union and performing other harmful and destructive acts to disrupt the unions ability to perform its representational responsibilities. The appeals court today affirmed the dismissal. Attorneys for the Association are reviewing the ruling presently for potential next steps.
Even after losing twice in two different courts in their own backyard these guys still can not admit they were wrong and let it go. The right thing to do would be to apologize and maybe even offer to pay our legal fees for this ordeal.

conjecture !