2015 Pilot Discussion.

[im back..!!]

Uh-huh. The 9th settled it. The West was right. USCABA is nothing but illegal organized crime. Now you have no reps in the biggest SLI in history. Guess what? Nobody cares. My guess is you all get stapled. I couldn't care less.

if nic is the list, then we can't get stapled....
 
so, that statement makes you either look dumb. or, that your not really sure nic is the list.
 
which is it?

 

[dariencc]

 
You had no pension, but one of your PSA pilots took over as the US Airways MEC leader and psa pilots were promptly given a pension from the East US Airways pile of money.  Your PSA leader took a million dollars plus out of the fund, used all his sick time up and left. 
 

 
You would be describing the distinguished Arnold Johnson.  A perfectly fine name.  Then, in his forties, Mr. Johnson suddenly changed his name to Armen Janzen.  An LA resident, perhaps Mr. "Janzen" thought he was a movie star.
 
US Airways pilots rued the day that this slippery individual was elected MEC Chairman.  The PIT reps saw through him and voted no.

 

[dariencc]

 
Lets recap.  You were a former PSA airline pilot.  You came to US Airways sli with a date of hire spot.  You had no pension, but one of your PSA pilots took over as the US Airways MEC leader and psa pilots were promptly given a pension from the East US Airways pile of money.  Your PSA leader took a million dollars plus out of the fund, used all his sick time up and left. 
 

 
An accurate summary.  Our favorite manly ex-Captain knows that he deserved his huge bump from that merger while our F/Os deserved what they got in the AWA merger. 
 
 
Today's bonus question.  How many retired pilots do you know who even read, much less post on, this forum?
 
Weird dude. 

 

[nycbusdriver]

Yup!  There you have it![/quote

USAPA=EAST Pilots=USAPA

The East pilots had an APA sanctioned committee in place to represent their interests. The 9th assured their interests include the Nic. They elected to be non-participants. Too bad and shame on them.

Choosing a new merger committee changes nothing, except to perpetuate the USAPA mantra of "delay-delay-delay" to the detriment of the APA represented pilots at large, and the airline itself.

I hope the Arbitration Panel has this wisdom to see USAPA's latest shell game for exactly what it is and proceed accordingly.

No.  USAPA elected to withdraw.  Not the east pilots.
 
As all you westicles (and their supporters who obviously have no life in retirement) have been happy to point out, USAPA is no longer the official representative of anyone.  The east pilots will get their committee eventually.  The APA knows it has no choice in the matter due to their past precedent of allowing the westicles a separate committee and the fact that M-B requires that all parties be represented.  The arbitration panel knows this, and I doubt they would preside over anything that leaves the east pilots unrepresented.  
 
USAPA going away does not mean the east pilots go away.  The sooner the west morons and their supporters realize this, the quicker the process will move forward.
 
However, keep in mind that east pilots are greater in number than westicles and now have a much larger payroll than the little west group and their little airplanes.   We have the money and the resolve to represent our interest.  What does it take to form an LLC?  Twenty minutes on the internet with Legalzoom?  Does AOL really think they're the only ones that can do it?
 
We won't need the desperation of $675 ties to pay our lawyers and "show" our unity.  We've proven that since that whack-a-doodle Nicolau proved his stupidity to organized labor and his arbitrator colleagues.
 
And f the westicles really want to challenge the appointment of an independent east MC, they should keep aying Marty to keep filing lawsuits.  The longer this takes to play out, the better for the LAA and East LUS pilots.  Bring it one, you west idiots.  File away.  Take your time.  We LOVE it!

 

[nycbusdriver]

Brilliant move, walking away from the SLI table (where is that sarcasm icon?). 

 
Are you effing blind?  USAPA didn't walk away from the SLI; they were ordered away by the federal appeals court.  Did you miss that little event?
 
USAPA is out of it; the east pilots are not.  We're here and we are not going away.  We will have a separate MC, it just will have no ties with USAPA.
 
Enjoy your "victory."  But, it seems, you aren't even paying attention.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Relegated to a life as an internet troll,

 
HAHAHAHAHA!  Have you looked in a mirror?   HAHAHAHA!

 

[N924PS]

You would be describing the distinguished Arnold Johnson.  A perfectly fine name.  Then, in his forties, Mr. Johnson suddenly changed his name to Armen Janzen.  An LA resident, perhaps Mr. "Janzen" thought he was a movie star.
 
US Airways pilots rued the day that this slippery individual was elected MEC Chairman.  The PIT reps saw through him and voted no.

FYI Kenneth,

PSA Pilots had a Defined Benefit retirement plan in place long before USAir came along. It was rolled into the USAir plan post merger.

The PIT reps voted no, but he was elected by the majority. Kind of like many USAirways and America West pilots voted NO on USAPA to be their union.

Stop by and say hi to Captain Janzen, he moved to your neighborhood last month.

 

[N924PS]

HAHAHAHAHA!  Have you looked in a mirror?   HAHAHAHA!

Says the fat bald man with 7659 posts.

 

[cactusboy53]

Are you effing blind?  USAPA didn't walk away from the SLI; they were ordered away by the federal appeals court.  Did you miss that little event?
 
USAPA is out of it; the east pilots are not.  We're here and we are not going away.  We will have a separate MC, it just will have no ties with USAPA.
 
Enjoy your "victory."  But, it seems, you aren't even paying attention.

I've heard an argument like this before. ... oh yea. An ex-wife remarked "How can we be out of money? We still have checks!"

Dude. EVERYONE has seen "the East pilots" pull this one before. I'm not dancing in the streets yet. Let's just see what the SLI panel & Judge Conrad say.

 

[N924PS]

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[nycbusdriver]

Says the fat bald man with 7659 posts.

 
Get a life...and now it's obvious you need glasses, too, Troll.

 

[Pi brat]

FYI Kenneth,
PSA Pilots had a Defined Benefit retirement plan in place long before USAir came along. It was rolled into the USAir plan post merger.
The PIT reps voted no, but he was elected by the majority. Kind of like many USAirways and America West pilots voted NO on USAPA to be their union.
Stop by and say hi to Captain Janzen, he moved to your neighborhood last month.

Your PSA retirement wasn't very good was it? I remember all those PSA F/Os that stepped right into lineholding captain seats in CLT complaining about it.

Do you remember all your drum beating about DOH prior to the NIc? I do. Should I go find them.

 

[CactusPilot1]

HAHAHAHAHA!  Have you looked in a mirror?   HAHAHAHA!

Have you looked at how foolish you look with that tag line below? Ha ha ha...

"Hey, westicles! You must have missed the APA memo. You're now totally irrelevant, and your little merger committee, too!"

You have no merger committee so you no longer have the need for using other people's money.

 

[N924PS]

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[N924PS]

Not necessary. I was a proponent of DOH with conditions and restrictions prior to the NIC.

Negotiation, mediation and finally a mutually agreed to binding arbitration resulted in the NIC. As another poster recently affirmed, it was a fair and equitable process. it should have been accepted and we should have moved on.

The PSA Pilots Defined Benefit Retirement Plan for Fligh Deck Employees was not quite as good as AAA and Pi pilots but close. The formula was 2% x Final Average Earnings x Credited Service, limited to 30 years. The multiplier was 2.4% for AAA and PI pilots.

Your PSA retirement wasn't very good was it? I remember all those PSA F/Os that stepped right into lineholding captain seats in CLT complaining about it.
Do you remember all your drum beating about DOH prior to the NIc? I do. Should I go find them.