2015 Pilot Discussion.

[Claxon]

You seem confused. There will be a Nic affirming update soon.

Please read footnote 12 from the 9th below in my signature area, it highlights the lack of any injunction that requires the nic.  If the Honorable Judge Silver should add such, it will be against the 9th wisdom in declining to do so, because frankly they know better.
 
Your thoughts please sir?
 
Footnote 12 sir, is the proverbial money shot.

 

[Black Swan]

check out the PHL/CLT update. Crazy, delusional and filled with willful half truths as usual. Big time direct threats to the Company. Great! Do it!!  Throw an epic Temper Tantrum and walk off the jobs if you want. Doup Effing Parker caused this situation, make him pay.
 
Sure. You're little unrepresented group is still under a Federal Injunction against that type of behavior but when has the Law ever applied to an Easthole?
 
You could just accept LEONIDAS as your new duly authorized representatives too though.

What a very strange and angry post. Leonidas will never represent the East pilots. You guys really missed the boat, again.
By the way, NOTHING is happening Monday.

 

[luvthe9]

"Yes, the East offered the NIC. They just wanted to protect their retirement attrition, which stalled by the change in Age-60. Looking back, that offer must look like a home run to any West pilot right now, "



How bout now? To think we offered you the NIC and you turned it down,

Mistake of a lifetime.


Big smiles

 

[luvthe9]

Remember no NIC........


Fair and equitable.

 

[luvthe9]

You seem confused. There will be a Nic affirming update soon.

Only in your dreams son, rest easy,

 

[Black Swan]

Have you looked at how foolish you look with that tag line below? Ha ha ha...
"Hey, westicles! You must have missed the APA memo. You're now totally irrelevant, and your little merger committee, too!"
You have no merger committee so you no longer have the need for using other people's money.

You really look like the idiot you are now saying this.
Had your fun last week, now you really look the fools you are.

 

[Claxon]

APA Update July 5th Seniority List Integration Arbitration Panel Responds to Procedural Questions
 
"Seniority List Integration Arbitration Panel Responds to Procedural Questions
The seniority list integration arbitration panel issued a 22-page response today to the three procedural questions that arose after the USAPA Merger Committee’s abrupt and permanent withdrawal from the proceedings. The procedural questions submitted and the panel’s respective answer to each question are as follows:
 
Should APA engage in best efforts to establish a new merger committee to represent legacy US Airways East pilots ("East Merger Committee")?
In its response, the SLI arbitration panel stated: “The Board answers Question No. 1 in the affirmative: APA should engage in best efforts to establish a new merger committee to represent legacy U.S. Airways East pilots.”
 
Should a new East Merger Committee, if any, be deemed bound by the Ninth Circuit's decision in Addington?
In its response, the SLI arbitration panel stated: “The Board declines to answer Question No. 2 to the extent that it seeks a legal opinion as to the scope of the judicial injunction on advocacy by any Merger Committee appointed to represent the East pilots. The board declines to impose any restrictions on advocacy not imposed by a court of competent jurisdiction.”
 
What shall be the revised schedule for the SLI hearing (including, without limitation, the schedule for establishing a new East Merger Committee, if any)?
In its response, the SLI arbitration panel modified the hearing schedule as follows: “Arbitration hearings (to the extent needed) are scheduled for the following periods: September 29, 30, October 1, 2, 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16, 2015; January 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 2016, in Washington, D.C.”
The SLI arbitration panel’s full opinion and award, along with hearing transcripts and other related documents, are posted on the SLI page of alliedpilots.org. As a result of the panel’s decision, no SLI hearings will be held the week of July 13.
 
APA will continue to post SLI hearing updates as additional information becomes known."
 

 

[dariencc]

 

 
“The Board The board declines to impose any restrictions on advocacy not imposed by a court of competent jurisdiction.”
 

 

 
The money shot!

 

[nic4us]

hmmmm.
 
Question 1.  Should the APA engage in "best efforts" to establish a new merger committee.  The board says yes.  Goodie.  Now we will wait to see if the APA actually impanels one, or just can't get their best efforts to get the job done.  Personally, I hope they do get an east committee, actually the exact same east committee that just walked out would do just fine.
 
Question 2.  Should a new east committee be bound by the 9th's ruling?  Who cares?  I mean really, this thing is all but wrapped up.  We have 5 out of 6 federal judges calling usapa scum, and the one dissenter who calls them scum, but says they have the right to be scum.  We have paraded uscaba in front of almost every RLA arbitrator, and they have all seen the scum also, so again I ask, who really cares?  Let an east committee come to the arbitration and make whatever case they desire.  The room will listen to their arguments, and when all is said and done will render a verdict of ...."hey azzweipe,  final and binding means just that, here is your seniority, note the LCC pilots are in NIC order, just to piss you off we highlighted that fact"! 
 
Revised schedule, well that ain't bad.  We are now a month behind.  Totally foreseen.
 
 
Oh, one more thing.  Ever cross anybody's mind that the West is not a party to the Protocol agreement?  Sooo, now that usapa is gone, that agreement is between who exactly?

 

[Claxon]

Regardless of the outcome,  East pilots should not plan on bidding to the PHX base in the future, it will be closed by the time the SLI is settled and instituted. 

 

[nic4us]

 
The money shot!

 
All over the east's face.
 
Keep smiling for the camera!

 

[Phoenix]

The money shot!

Will Silver word her injunction in a manner so as to impose the Nic on any and all reps that ever do any SLI advocacy for the East? Or will she just quit interfering.

If not, will the West sue again? Their update seemed to be ready to move ahead regardless of how the panel answered the questions...

The 9th found USAPA guilty of DFR but imposed the use of Nic on absolutely no one, ever.

West eruption in 5, 4, 3, ....

 

[Claxon]

Oh, one more thing.  Ever cross anybody's mind that the West is not a party to the Protocol agreement?  Sooo, now that usapa is gone, that agreement is between who exactly?

If I were you I would seek the advice from an experienced competent attorney regarding any legal matters.  
 
My advice, you should not rely on koontz and vasolino's opinions any more.

 

[cactusboy53]

Where is Cactusboy53? Big Smiles Guys, big smiles!"
PHX pilots need to Phone a Freund. Big Kerfuffle!

Sorry. I was spending time with my family. I read the panel's decision. Big deal. Go pull your big boy pants on and get your new committee assembled. Be sure to inform the SLI panel what you think of Mr. Nicolau & his award. Be sure to tell the panel what you are entitled to. Be sure use the term "It's not fair!". What ever you do, make sure you tell the courts that you've changed your name, and the 9th's ruling does not apply to you.

You won a brief delay. That's all.

Big Smiles everyone!

 

[Phoenix]

Will the revised AAPSIC SLI proposal make mention of the Nic, except to note it was never part of the status quo?

If you win a DFR and get nothing, should you double down?