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im back..!! said:
I assume and grant you, everything you said about saving USAir is true....
But to quote our next president, "What difference does it make"?
Our arbitrated and accepted SLI was never implemented. It never attained the 3rd leg of its implementation, a JCBA....
The current Arbs will decide if they should use NIC or not.... That's why the 9th Diane infer that they must use it, the actually made sure that they knew they weren't required to use NIC...
It will be decided soon, we will all live with it, there isn't a choice, this is federal, unlike the NIC....
Chill, it's all winding down now... We will either be in training soon for wide bodies, or nowhere near them..... Either, I don't care, I've got mine....
Good luck to us all!
When did Donald Trump say that?
 
"…when we looked out at our future, what we saw wasn’t good…. Assuming we couldn’t go out and restructure or raise cash, it is possible that AWA would have been facing its own Chapter 11 at some point. Employees may like to think we “saved” US but the fact is we saved each other"
 
Doug Parker
 
snapthis said:
I hope Marty keeps you reading until you get the message.
OK.....uh the big message has been for years that he West, is just that. PHX and PHX only for years.
 
A320 Driver said:
I think it's more than that. You want us silenced...isn't that what the 9th basically did? Put us in the corner holding a flag with NIC written on it to wave occasionally? I think they are the ones that caused the withdrawal. Tashima was right. That ruling took away all representation for the East...not just the part about the NIC.
Firstly, we all know that Tashmia is a Senile Old Man.

Secondly, you need to learn that illegal behavior has CONSEQUENCES. Bradford flat out lied to all of you. This is just the tip of the iceberg regarding consequences.

Your side walking out will have consequences. The one thing I can ALWAYS count on when dealing with the East is a total refusal to accept any and all responsibility for anything. You guys HAD your own Union, you CONTROLLED all the money and yet, here you are. Consider yourself lucky not to be a named defendant. The West is going to strip every last penny from them, their futures, and their families.
I hope this little charade of a fake Union was worth it.
 
Metroyet said:
Firstly, we all know that Tashmia is a Senile Old Man.

Secondly, you need to learn that illegal behavior has CONSEQUENCES.
 
Specifically sir, what has USAPA done that was illegal?
 
Claxon said:
"when we looked out at our future, what we saw wasnt good. Assuming we couldnt go out and restructure or raise cash, it is possible that AWA would have been facing its own Chapter 11 at some point. Employees may like to think we saved US but the fact is we saved each other"
 
Doug Parker

That makes for a really good story, Clax.

Not to offend you..

How about more briefs, since you are interested in accounting.


The LMRDA Plaintiffs Are Entitled To A Full Accounting.
Case 3:14-cv-00577-RJC-DCK Document 62 Filed 07/14/15 Page 8 of 11

The LMRDA Plaintiffs have requested a full and neutral accounting for purposes of
determining what the LMRDA Defendants have collected, what they have authorized USAPA to
spend and from where, and what monies may ultimately be available to membership upon
dissolution. The LMRDA Defendants and USAPA have refused to provide an accounting and
have, instead, suggested that an audit for purposes of USAPAs LM2 reporting requirements
should suffice. Not so.
First, an LM2 audit does not reveal details about spending, including the back-up for
expenditures. Second, the LM2 audit is conducted on a fiscal year basis, which means that it is
not current. Finally, based upon the LMRDA Defendants and USAPAs recent discovery
responses, it is apparent that the LMRDA Defendants are not properly accounting for mergerrelated
expenses. This is apparent because although USAPA collected an additional amount of
dues from members over and above regular dues for a special merger assessment fund
commencing April of 2013, and that fund totaled over $4.5 million as of September 16, 2014,
USAPA has not actually used any of the funds held in the merger assessment fund on mergerrelated
expenses. Instead, the LMRDA Defendants have directed USAPA to expend regular
treasury monies to pay merger-related expenses, and have no explanation for why the merger
assessment fund has not been used to merger-related expenditures.

In sum, because (1) the LMRDA Defendants have failed and refused to produce detailed
information regarding what they have authorized USAPA to spend on merger-related expenses,
(2) what information the LMRDA Defendants and USAPA have disclosed shows that they used
the general treasury and not the merger assessment fund to pay merger-related expenses, and (3)
the LM2 audit is neither detailed nor current, the LMRDA Plaintiffs are entitled to an actual,
thorough accounting.
 
Claxon said:
Specifically sir, what has USAPA done that was illegal?
Ask the 9th...oh, and BTW Mike,I hope you didn't waste too much money suing the group whose name you claim to "own". You're never going to see a dime of the money you think you're owed. Also, the pickleballers had the name way before you. :lol:
 
snapthis said:
That makes for a really good story, Clax.

yada, yada..............
Sir, your response to my below post, had nothing to do with it.  Do you have a point sir to make about my post below. 
 
Claxon, on 14 Jul 2015 - 9:06 PM, said:
 "when we looked out at our future, what we saw wasnt good. Assuming we couldnt go out and restructure or raise cash, it is possible that AWA would have been facing its own Chapter 11 at some point. Employees may like to think we saved US but the fact is we saved each other"

 
Doug Parker
 
Metroyet said:
Ask the 9th
USAPA attorney Roland Wilder is asking them now, do not have to personally.  USAPA attorney Roland Wilder will ask the Supreme Court also.
 
We will find out the results next year.  How is the phx pilot base morale doing lately?  (rhetorical)
 
Claxon said:
Sir, your response to my below post, had nothing to do with it.  Do you have a point sir to make about my post below. 
 
Claxon, on 14 Jul 2015 - 9:06 PM, said:
 "when we looked out at our future, what we saw wasnt good. Assuming we couldnt go out and restructure or raise cash, it is possible that AWA would have been facing its own Chapter 11 at some point. Employees may like to think we saved US but the fact is we saved each other"

 
Doug Parker
 
I think I will take 8 hours to respond, if I respond at all.
 
You have people asking you about avatars since you are the resident expert on the subject and comment on them when your opinion is not needed.
 
 
snapthis said:
 
I think I will take 8 hours to respond, if I respond at all.
 
You have people asking you about avatars since you are the resident expert on the subject and comment on them when your opinion is not needed.
 
I think it will take 8 months for the court to respond to the En Banc and Supreme court questions, take your time.
 
How fitting you posted on page 666 of this forum. How is it going in the phx base, I hear there are a lot of dissenters?
 
 
cacutsboy will be on in 1.9 hours to provide an answer to my posts I predict, because of the genetically induced governer on his wit engine.  
 
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