2015 Pilot Discussion.

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Who told you your airline and careers were worthless?
 
Certainly not Nicolau.  You got the top 517, then a ratio in status that also favored the east. (i.e. the east owns the top HALF of the Nic)  Gee, how "worthless" is that?
 
The Nic is more than fair and equitable toward the east pilot group.  
 
I also trust that the current arbitration panel will do this right.  The Nic, ( the only valid system seniority list for all LCC pilots) will be combined with the AA list.

Well, at present, if I were a West pilot flying on the east, I would grieve any result of this bid that did not use my Nic number.
 
Other than that, the we shall see what next week holds in regard to this bid.

well actually for the 10 of you that are you have what your seniority holds ! DOH no DFR there!thank Dave Ciabattoni for that now if you want your names and positions published I will gladly do it!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Well let us start with Verri 2853 number Piedmont employee number AOL contributor A330 f/o PHL 9 to go !

 

[CactusPilot1]

They do, just can't figure out why Hummel did not send Roland out west.
I think our west friends are figuring out they will never get the NIC.

You still think the Nic is dead and you think we are going to release the USAPA officers from liability? Not a chance. Maybe you can get Trank to help you like he helped the Cactus 18.

Yea right...

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Given a Piedmont employee number for Alex to blend how cute!

 

[EastUS1]

I don't need your lectures about growing up.

 
Well, I meant the suggestion in a kindly way, since it's very clear your parents completely failed you there.

 

[A320 Driver]

They do, just can't figure out why Hummel did not send Roland out west.
I think our west friends are figuring out they will never get the NIC.

I think that will be the case now.

 

[A320 Driver]

Marty's close at 43 minutes showed fight, especially in reference to 10h whereas, Pat showed none, no passion at all.

Bybie was clearly interested in 10H. Marty gave his version, no matter how inaccurate, without a counter at all. Harvey Spector would have never let this happen! 🙂

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

You still think the Nic is dead and you think we are going to release the USAPA officers from liability? Not a chance. Maybe you can get Trank to help you like he helped the Cactus 18.
Yea right...

. Well given the number of lawsuits yet to be filed, Not only is the NIC dead your time clock after M\B is challenged through the federal courts you will beg for DOH! Just sayin!

 

[luvthe9]

You still think the Nic is dead and you think we are going to release the USAPA officers from liability? Not a chance. Maybe you can get Trank to help you like he helped the Cactus 18.
Yea right...

It's OK to have dreams..............fair and equitable is the name of the game.



Your NIC is NO MORE?

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
When they fly with me they do.  I also do short of half, but a good share of the walk arounds.
 
Never know when today's F/O might be tomorrow's chief pilot, managing director or vp.
 
Another things F/Os do in PHX.  They fly really well!  But, that is self evident when you compare the east and West safety records.

 
And do the west f/os split the bar tab with their west captains, too, just before they report for flight duty drunk?

 

[Phoenix]

Yep...really got screwed after 22:30. I sat at USAPA headquarters for 3 1/2 days and listened to explanation after explanation regarding the MOU being seniority neutral. I NEVER heard it stated that it buried the NIC award. We were told it specifically avoided the issue so we could all get raises via a new contract and put us on equal footing with the AA pilots while the NIC was settled in another venue. How we got from there to where we are now is nothing short of a complete legal blunder, IMO. 

 
 
After nearly a decade of this I think the elasticity of the law, facts, and opinions allow for an extraordinary wide judicial range (even when all visible appearances don't fully account for a reasonable range).   

 

[Phoenix]

I don't believe I said any specific time, Idiot. Not soon enough for me, but soon. If you're nice, I might even let you fly a leg, that is if you can cease being a Dick. I'll be there Thursday nite. Come on by and introduce yourself.

Big smiles!

Dave

 
 
Can I send you $675 dollars?  No need to send a tie.  You really need a good bourbon.  

 

[Claxon]

""snapthis

Posted Today, 01:39 PM


 
Your problems multiplied at 18 minutes into the video...
 




At 28:30 in the video, Szymanski starts his retreat which lasts about 4 minutes. Weak performance.""
 
claxon post now;
spinthis, I disagree.  The first 18 minutes in the 9th DFR video was the worst possible information for the west pilots.


 
IE;
 
1:45 into the video Judge Bybee said your dfr was not ripe.
 
7:20  no injunctive relief
 
8:40  rhetorical club statement by Judge Bybee
 
15:00  the west attorney claim of no legitimate purpose.  Your west pay checks vs the MIT airline pilot pay study? 
 
I differ with you spinthis, the first 18 minutes of the 9th video is the reason for the soon to be announced En Banc.
 
I think you attempted to steer the lazy forum and west pilot pundit inquirers away from the the first 18 minutes. 
 
Claxon
 
http://www.ca9.uscou..._vid=0000007510

 

[snapthis]

""snapthis
Posted Today, 01:39 PM


 
Your problems multiplied at 18 minutes into the video...
 




At 28:30 in the video, Szymanski starts his retreat which lasts about 4 minutes. Weak performance.""
 
claxon post now;
spinthis, I disagree.  The first 18 minutes in the 9th DFR video was the worst possible information for the west pilots.


 
IE;
 
1:45 into the video Judge Bybee said your dfr was not ripe.
 
7:20  no injunctive relief
 
8:40  rhetorical club statement by Judge Bybee
 
15:00  the west attorney claim of no legitimate purpose.  Your west pay checks vs the MIT airline pilot pay study? 
 
I differ with you spinthis, the first 18 minutes of the 9th video is the reason for the soon to be announced En Banc.
 
I think you attempted to steer the lazy forum and west pilot pundit inquirers away from the the first 18 minutes. 
 
Claxon
 
http://www.ca9.uscou..._vid=0000007510

Just think, USAPA may have stood a better chance if Mike Cleary had not fired Seham. USAPA lost the case and the chances for an appeal of any kind are remote.

Do you know if the former USAPA Prez with the victim mentality ever settled his lawsuit against USAPA?



"The former president of the Charlotte-based union that represents US Airways pilots filed a lawsuit Tuesday against the union, claiming he was unfairly cheated out of payment for almost 100 unused vacation days he accrued.

Michael Cleary, a pilot, headed the U.S. Airline Pilots Association from 2008 to 2012. He was a fierce opponent of US Airways and led a high-profile safety campaign in 2011 that the company claimed was in fact a secret work slowdown.

The union charged that US Airways was skirting safety requirements, but a federal judge in Charlotte sided with the company and issued an injunction ordering pilots to stop the slowdown.

In his lawsuit, Cleary claimed he worked seven days a week for the union for most of his four-year term and took only seven paid days off during that time. He worked on those seven days he took off as well, Cleary said."

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article9125399.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Claxon]

Just think, USAPA may have stood a better chance if Mike Cleary had not fired Seham. USAPA lost the case and the chances for an appeal of any kind are remote.......///
 
spin, spin, spin.......................

Now spin, what minutes of the 9th Circuit Video should the inquiring minds want to listen to?
 
You say spin those should listen after the first 18 minutes, I say all should listen to the first 18 minutes.
 
Your thoughts please sir?
 
IE;
 
1:45 into the video Judge Bybee said your dfr was not ripe.
 
7:20  no injunctive relief
 
8:40  rhetorical club statement by Judge Bybee
 
15:00  the west attorney claim of no legitimate purpose.  Your west pay checks vs the MIT airline pilot pay study?
 
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view_video.php?pk_vid=0000007510