2015 Pilot Discussion.

[EastUS1]

....You know damn well what you did to the West pilots.....

 
Really not-so-much. I've had very enjoyable conversations with a number of your captains, but, well; I'll have to admit that the bulk of such as yourself are useful only for laughs. I'm not entirely sure that qualifies me as a bad person though,....I mean really; what other choice than laughter do such as yourself give me? 😉

 

[nevergiveup]

There it is. The Easthole proclivity to ALWAYS fail to accept any responsibility for anything. You know damn well what you did to the West pilots. They fought back...and won. You idiots created a situation whereby the MOU became about one thing. Getting rid of USAPA at all costs. YOU created that situation. YOU got the substandard MOU because of it. YOU need to accept the reality of what YOUR behavior has caused. You won't. I know that with 100% certainty. You'll refuse to accept any responsibility because you and the rest of your jihadist colleagues are consumate, entitled losers.
 
Your horrible career was more than you deserved. Be thankful for that and forget about profit sharing.

I believe you have kept what you brought to the table. Don't worry......be happy!

 

[luvthe9]

There it is. The Easthole proclivity to ALWAYS fail to accept any responsibility for anything. You know damn well what you did to the West pilots. They fought back...and won. You idiots created a situation whereby the MOU became about one thing. Getting rid of USAPA at all costs. YOU created that situation. YOU got the substandard MOU because of it. YOU need to accept the reality of what YOUR behavior has caused. You won't. I know that with 100% certainty. You'll refuse to accept any responsibility because you and the rest of your jihadist colleagues are consumate, entitled losers.
 
Your horrible career was more than you deserved. Be thankful for that and forget about profit sharing.

Sorry son, whatever happened here in the past was way way better than working for a scab airline like AWA and remember that was an airline to go to is no one else woul hire you. I'll take my 34 years here over yours any day,






One of the four Leonidas LLC directors is apparently now employed as an American Airlines pilot;\

Having Kevin Horner associated in any way with this DFR only hurts the effort. How can he adequately meet the fiduciary requirements to fairly represent the class? Our sources have told us that Kevin Horner’s current union, the APA, is furious with him for his participation in a DFR suit against another union.

 

[snapthis]

True. Unfortunately your pilot group was far too distracted fighting a war that should never have started compelling the PHX pilots to vote out their abusers...thems the breaks I guess.

The MOU was seniority neutral as footnote 11 states and from the Q&A in Phoenix. It did not eliminate the Nic as the 9th's ruling reflected.
The Nic and combined ops puts a nice little bow on it.
 
You know how much Claxon likes footnotes:
 
11 We could not agree more with the dissent that reversal of the district
 
court’s factual determinations requires a finding of clear error. But far from
 
“ignor[ing]” evidence that the majority of the West Pilots voted to ratify the MOU,
 
which the dissent contends we have done, see Dissent at 15 n.5, we have clearly
 
acknowledged it. See supra Part II.A. Rather, it is the dissent that draws an
 
inference from the facts that the district court did not; while the dissent contends
 
that “the fact that West Pilots overwhelmingly ratified the MOU suggests that
 
USAPA was not simply abandoning their interests,” Dissent at 13, the district court
 
found that the West Pilots voted in favor of the MOU because, “n general, the
 
West Pilots accepted USAPA’s oral and written representations that the MOU was
 
neutral.” See Addington, 2014 WL 321349, at *3.

 

[nevergiveup]

The MOU was seniority neutral as footnote 11 states and from the Q&A in Phoenix. It did not eliminate the Nic as the 9th's ruling reflected.
The Nic and combined ops puts a nice little bow on it.
 
You know how much Claxon likes footnotes.
 
11 We could not agree more with the dissent that reversal of the district
 
 
 
court’s factual determinations requires a finding of clear error. But far from
 
“ignor[ing]” evidence that the majority of the West Pilots voted to ratify the MOU,
 
 
which the dissent contends we have done, see Dissent at 15 n.5, we have clearly
 
acknowledged it. See supra Part II.A. Rather, it is the dissent that draws an
 
 
 
inference from the facts that the district court did not; while the dissent contends
 
that “the fact that West Pilots overwhelmingly ratified the MOU suggests that
 
USAPA was not simply abandoning their interests,” Dissent at 13, the district court
 
found that the West Pilots voted in favor of the MOU because, “n general, the
 
West Pilots accepted USAPA’s oral and written representations that the MOU was
 
 
neutral.” See Addington, 2014 WL 321349, at *3.

I wouldn't be counting my chickens just yet.

 

[snapthis]

I wouldn't be counting my chickens just yet.

Likewise.
 
Looking out back, I see a pool and some mountains. No chickens.
 
 
 

 

[Pi brat]

The MOU was seniority neutral as footnote 11 states and from the Q&A in Phoenix. It did not eliminate the Nic as the 9th's ruling reflected.
The Nic and combined ops puts a nice little bow on it.
 
You know how much Claxon likes footnotes:
 
11 We could not agree more with the dissent that reversal of the district
 
court’s factual determinations requires a finding of clear error. But far from
 
“ignor[ing]” evidence that the majority of the West Pilots voted to ratify the MOU,
 
which the dissent contends we have done, see Dissent at 15 n.5, we have clearly
 
acknowledged it. See supra Part II.A. Rather, it is the dissent that draws an
 
inference from the facts that the district court did not; while the dissent contends
 
that “the fact that West Pilots overwhelmingly ratified the MOU suggests that
 
USAPA was not simply abandoning their interests,” Dissent at 13, the district court
 
found that the West Pilots voted in favor of the MOU because, “n general, the
 
West Pilots accepted USAPA’s oral and written representations that the MOU was
 
neutral.” See Addington, 2014 WL 321349, at *3.

The hardest party of being Marty Harper must be keeping a straight face when he says this stuff.
 
Let me get this straight. You guys voted for the MOU because it was seniority neutral. But within a few months filed a lawsuit claiming that the the MOU breached your DFR because it abandoned the requirement to use the Nicolau award. In what universe does Neutral=using the Nicolau award?

 

[nevergiveup]

Likewise.
 
Looking out back, I see a pool and some mountains. No chickens.
 
 
 

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I think the coyotes ate you chickens!

 

[snapthis]

The hardest party of being Marty Harper must be keeping a straight face when he says this stuff.
 
Let me get this straight. You guys voted for the MOU because it was seniority neutral. But within a few months filed a lawsuit claiming that the the MOU breached your DFR because it abandoned the requirement to use the Nicolau award. In what universe does Neurtal=using the Nicolau award?

 
Talk about mixed up. You helped the Cactus 18, not a USAPA supporter, yet are all over the C&R's towing the USAPA line. Good thing you like wasting your time because your lobbying effort is not going to make a difference with the arbs or in a court of law.
 
Knock yourself out.
 

 

[Pi brat]

neutral
adjective

: not supporting either side of an argument, fight, war, etc.

 

[Pi brat]

 
Talk about mixed up. You helped the Cactus 18, not a USAPA supporter, yet are all over the C&R's towing the USAPA line. Good thing you like wasting your time because your lobbying effort is not going to make a difference with the arbs or in a court of law.
 
Knock yourself out.
 

My hobby is about over, starting Monday better things to do. You're just angry because of the reception you guys have gotten on C&R.
 
Great reply to the facts though.

 

[snapthis]

I think the coyotes ate you chickens!

 
 
Actually, they prefer cats as my neighbor found out, unfortunately.
 

 

[snapthis]

My hobby is about over, starting Monday better things to do. You're just angry because of the reception you guys have gotten on C&R.
 
Great reply to the facts though.

 
Reputation on the C&R? I've noticed you are real sensitive to any comments made by LAA pilots in support of West pilots, questioning their intent and reasoning.
 
Me thinks you are dialing 1-800-cry2LAA buddies for support.

 

[Pi brat]

 
Reputation on the C&R? I've noticed you are real sensitive to any comments made by LAA pilots in support of West pilots, questioning their intent and reasoning.
 
Me thinks you are dialing 1-800-cry2LAA buddies for support.

There have been LAA pilots that support the west?
 
I don't do anything but present the facts and they speak for themselves. Any damage done to your cause comes from your resident idiots telling LAA guys they need reading comprehension and math lessons.
 
Do you understand neutral now?

 

[snapthis]

There have been LAA pilots that support the west?
 
Do you understand neutral now?

 
Are you suggesting there have been no comments in support of the West position on the C&R's? I knew you were looney but this one takes the cake.
 
That, I understand.