2015 Pilot Discussion.

[nic4us]

The court was wrong in their ruling. They said that the west would have to counter the LAA guys and USAPA's DOH scheme. USAPA didn't propose their previous DOH list, it was completely different. NEUTRAL.
 
You live in the world of deception. You guys knew that the MOU did, voted for it anyway with the plan to sue over it. Huh, the same thing you have accused the east of for 8 years.

 
The court could be wrong, I guess we will find out en banc, and not from you opinion.
 
What did usapa propose?  Did it include the NIc?  Did it make any attempt at recognizing the Nic, or even West pilot's interest even in usapa's own DOH constitutional mandate?
 
I will answere for you, no it did not...and it tried to further east pilot's positions at the expense of the West by leapfrogging 3rd listers and east furlough recalls above the West pilots. 
 
Face it, the scab union's hand was caught in the cookie jar, and it turned out to be a steel trap.  usapa is caught and done.  Gone, decertified and guilty of a DFR violation.

 

[Pi brat]

 
The court could be wrong, I guess we will find out en banc, and not from you opinion.
 
What did usapa propose?  Did it include the NIc?  Did it make any attempt at recognizing the Nic, or even West pilot's interest even in usapa's own DOH constitutional mandate?
 
I will answere for you, no it did not...and it tried to further east pilot's positions at the expense of the West by leapfrogging 3rd listers and east furlough recalls above the West pilots. 
 
Face it, the scab union's hand was caught in the cookie jar, and it turned out to be a steel trap.  usapa is caught and done.  Gone, decertified and guilty of a DFR violation.

See, you're wrong again nicless.
 
Here's what the court wrote in the majority opinion:
 
"Thus, not only must the West Pilots advocate for the seniority interests of US Airways pilots generally in the SLI
proceedings, but they must also advocate the Nicolau Award vis-à-vis the date-of-hire seniority scheme that the East Pilots will present."
 
USAPA didn't present a DOH list Nicless. With just a little research or revision, the justices could have figured that out. USAPA presented a SLI based on a computer program of lifetime earnings. It put west guys and LAA guys hired after me ahead of me.
 
The USAPA merger committee no longer owed you anything and had no obligation to propose anything for you. You asked for and were granted your own committee to do that. Did the LAA committee propose the Nic? NO.
 
Face this-you guys did exactly what you have accused the east of doing for the last 8 years. Using an agreement(TA for us MOU for you) for a purpose other than it was intended. You knew what you were doing, and maybe it will work, but any moral high ground you claim is gone. You did not live up to what you agreed to.

 

[CactusPilot1]

There have been LAA pilots that support the west?
 
I don't do anything but present the facts and they speak for themselves. Any damage done to your cause comes from your resident idiots telling LAA guys they need reading comprehension and math lessons.
 
Do you understand neutral now?

 
Here's a fact for you, weasel. Don't do us any more 'favors"
 
Re: Cactus 18
 
You're a slick con artist.
 
Usapian to the core.
 

 

[Metroyet]

The court was wrong in their ruling. They said that the west would have to c, ounter the LAA guys and USAPA's DOH scheme. USAPA didn't propose their previous DOH list, it was completely different. NEUTRAL.
 
You live in the world of deception. You guys knew that the MOU did, voted for it anyway with the plan to sue over it. Huh, the same thing you have accused the east of for 8 years.

The West's own attorney, Pat scumanski, whom again, get's PAID by the West, Lied to their faces and tried to screw them with 10h AFTER ratification. The West voted 98% to kick out the fake scab union. That worked beautifully. USAPA is litterally nothing now and utterly failed to effect anything. USAPA changed it's tune on 10h the second after ratification. DFR

 

[Pi brat]

 
Here's a fact for you, weasel. Don't do us any more 'favors"
 
Re: Cactus 18
 
You're a slick con artist.
 
Usapian to the core.
 

And you're an idiot. You've done more damage for your image than anyone else can.

 

[Pi brat]

The West's own attorney, Pat scumanski, whom again, get's PAID by the West, Lied to their faces and tried to screw them with 10h AFTER ratification. The West voted 98% to kick out the fake scab union. That worked beautifully. USAPA is litterally nothing now and utterly failed to effect anything. USAPA changed it's tune on 10h the second after ratification. DFR

Yet no west pilot would ever be caught dead listening to him otherwise. What does this mean to you?
 
“West pilots should not vote in favor of the MOU because they
believe it will revive the Nicolau Award, and the East pilots should not vote
against it because they are concerned it will cause the Nicolau Award to be
implemented.”
 
This was put out BEFORE the vote. It's plain as day.
 
IF the USAPA lawyer told the west audience that the MOU was neutral and the east audience that it killed the Nic, he was lying to the east audience! It's not dead. It wasn't then, as it was going to be left up to a panel of arbitrators and they would decided.
 
I cannot believe you guys use the "We're stupid!" defense.

 

[CactusPilot1]

And you're an idiot. You've done more damage for your image than anyone else can.

 
Kiss my backside.
 
 

 

 

[Pi brat]

 
Kiss my backside.
 
 
 

No, thanks.

 

[CactusPilot1]

No, thanks.

 
You already have.
 
Good luck with the appeals.

 

[Pi brat]

 
 
 
Good luck with appeals.
 
 

Thanks! If the en banc comes through Judge Tashima has pretty much done all the work.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Thanks! If the en banc comes through Judge Tashima has pretty much done all the work.

 
Judge who?
 

 

[Pi brat]

 
Judge who?
 

That question sums you up perfectly.

 

[CactusPilot1]

That question sums you up perfectly.

 
There is no question Graber and Bybee were the majority in the ruling.
 
Who was the other guy?
 

 

[Pi brat]

 
 
 
Who was the other guy?
 

Yep, sums you up perfectly.

 

[EastCheats]

If you like sand and gravel instead of grass, and if you like cacti instead of shrubs, and you like dust instead of clear coat on your car's paint... then yeah, AWA was the place to work until you could get a good job and quit deluding yourself about the beautiful desert.

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