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cactusboy53 said:
Seriously? Posted personal, or at all even projected Fantasyland "identification" with a cinematic serial killer? I rest my case on AWA having never employed psych profiling or even intelligence testing of any kind.
P.S. A minor point of additionally curious inquiry: Specifically what conversational circles do you run in that find "Ooooh" to be appropriately pithy seasoning?
CactusPilot1 said:
So then don't ever apologize for your obviously infantile idiocy. It's hardly as if you've not already and long-since proven yourself a complete fool anyway. Only the world's most hopelessly foolish little children could ever even imagine themselves both immortal and untouchable kid:
"The Airbus A321 en route from Atlanta with 159 people aboard smashed into several approach and runway lights Saturday night, climbed away from the strip and then landed safely on a second attempt, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. There were no injuries, but the event has prompted scrutiny from government and industry safety experts."
Hint: "There, but for fortune...."
Oh well. For your sake I'll hope you grow up someday, perhaps even before "Hell freezes over"....
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The "oooh" is just a sarcastic remark of what is completely obvious to every one else. Get now, Mikey?EastUS1 said:
Ah, a good night's rest after picking up a SFO turn from another pilot. A 3 day trip with an awesome captain starts now.
Here's the word of the day:
FINAL: Completed. Ending. Finished.
Have a great day Mikey!
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Beginning January 2016, American, and by extension US Airways, will no longer operate nonstop service between PHL and Ben Gurion Airport (TLV) in Tel Aviv, Israel. Unfortunately, PHL-TLV has not performed well since its inception. Service between PHL and TLV has been a source of pride for our airline since 2009, and this isnt a decision we made lightly. Weve operated this route year-round for six years and have never turned a profit in any year; we lost more than $20 million on this service in the past year alone. We want to give every route the chance to succeed, but no matter how much we want to serve a particular route, we have to make the right decision for our business.
Our immediate focus is to be supportive of our team members based in Tel Aviv who have earned immense respect throughout the company for their excellence and dedication. We will discuss the implications of this business decision with them separately.
The final flight to Israel from PHL will be on Jan. 4, 2016 with the last return flight departing Tel Aviv for PHL on Jan. 5, 2016. Customers can still access TLV through our joint business partner British Airways via London or through our codeshare relationship with El Al via our European gateways such as London, Paris, Madrid and Frankfurt.
Q: Will the flight be reinstated in the future, perhaps when we have more opportunity to operate the route with a different aircraft or from a different hub like MIA or JFK?
A: Well certainly continue to monitor the viability of reinstating TLV service and will evaluate future opportunities as we bring in new aircraft to the fleet and our network evolves. At this time, we do not anticipate restarting service to Tel Aviv in the near future.
Q: Why did this route work for US Airways for years but shortly after the merger, it does not work for American?
A: The PHL TLV route has never been profitable for our airline. We want to give every route the chance to succeed, andwe gave it a fair shot, but at a certain point, no matter how much we want to serve a particular route; we have to make the right decision for our business.
Q: The PHL TLV flight traditionally operates with high load factors. How can it not be making money?
A: There are a lot of different factors that determine the overall success of a route. Load factor is not the only way, nor the best way, to judge a routes performance. We also look at overall demand and the fares customers are willing to pay on that route. In the case of PHL TLV, a number of factors have resulted in poor financial performance.
Q: What will happen to customers who are ticketed on the PHL TLV service after the cancellation date?
A: American will be contacting all passengers to make alternative travel arrangements for them, or to offer a full refund. We apologize for the inconvenience that this decision will cause.
Q: What does this say about PHL as a hub? Is there enough connecting traffic for other international flights?
A: Our combined hub structure allows for each of our nine hubs to play a very important role in our overall network strategy. Looking at our international network, PHL is a prime hub for connecting customers to and from main business and leisure destinations throughout Europe and it will continue to be an important strategic hub for our partners through the Atlantic Joint Business.
Our immediate focus is to be supportive of our team members based in Tel Aviv who have earned immense respect throughout the company for their excellence and dedication. We will discuss the implications of this business decision with them separately.
The final flight to Israel from PHL will be on Jan. 4, 2016 with the last return flight departing Tel Aviv for PHL on Jan. 5, 2016. Customers can still access TLV through our joint business partner British Airways via London or through our codeshare relationship with El Al via our European gateways such as London, Paris, Madrid and Frankfurt.
Q: Will the flight be reinstated in the future, perhaps when we have more opportunity to operate the route with a different aircraft or from a different hub like MIA or JFK?
A: Well certainly continue to monitor the viability of reinstating TLV service and will evaluate future opportunities as we bring in new aircraft to the fleet and our network evolves. At this time, we do not anticipate restarting service to Tel Aviv in the near future.
Q: Why did this route work for US Airways for years but shortly after the merger, it does not work for American?
A: The PHL TLV route has never been profitable for our airline. We want to give every route the chance to succeed, andwe gave it a fair shot, but at a certain point, no matter how much we want to serve a particular route; we have to make the right decision for our business.
Q: The PHL TLV flight traditionally operates with high load factors. How can it not be making money?
A: There are a lot of different factors that determine the overall success of a route. Load factor is not the only way, nor the best way, to judge a routes performance. We also look at overall demand and the fares customers are willing to pay on that route. In the case of PHL TLV, a number of factors have resulted in poor financial performance.
Q: What will happen to customers who are ticketed on the PHL TLV service after the cancellation date?
A: American will be contacting all passengers to make alternative travel arrangements for them, or to offer a full refund. We apologize for the inconvenience that this decision will cause.
Q: What does this say about PHL as a hub? Is there enough connecting traffic for other international flights?
A: Our combined hub structure allows for each of our nine hubs to play a very important role in our overall network strategy. Looking at our international network, PHL is a prime hub for connecting customers to and from main business and leisure destinations throughout Europe and it will continue to be an important strategic hub for our partners through the Atlantic Joint Business.
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I think they're planning two flights a day to accommodate the huge Jewish community in the sandbox.
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Or a hubluvthe9 said:
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Hard to believe this flight does not make money. I fly it regularly and it is ALWAYS full or damn near so?! "Rumors" had been circulating regarding flying it with a 777 to be able to haul more cargo than the 330-200 can. So management now thinks that passengers would rather connect through London on BA rather than raise our nonstop ticket price enough to make a profit! ElAl, to become the sole "partner" nonstop provider! Want to bet they will charge what we could, to make it profitable. Oh, and don't plan on flying during the Jewish sabbath, because ElAl doesn't. Look to see Delta and or United to start nonstop daily service on this route.luvthe9 said:
Of course this begs to question, where will those aircraft be flown? Time will tell, they damn sure won't be sitting on the ramp.
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I sure hope you're not referring to Las Vegas. While 2008-09 showed a reduction in visitor statistics, the numbers didn't dive. In fact, 2009 LAS visitor statistics showed a low 36.3 million with a hotel occupancy of 85%. 2014 is at 41.1 million with a hotel occupancy of 89%. Pretty impressive, IMHO. Here's a link: http://www.lvcva.com/includes/content/images/media/docs/Historical-1970-to-2014.pdfFreighterguynow said:
Apparently the carriers that stayed or nested there (Allegiant, Southwest, Spirit, etc.) seem to still be making money. Allegiant operating revenue DOUBLED from 2010 to 2014. These carriers planted, grew and seem to be flourishing in LAS.
I'm sure that the same could be made for BOS & LGA as well. It was simply a business decision by LUS management at the time. Smart? Well, we still made money. BUT....could we have made more by simply reducing and then returning vs. giving up that market to other carriers? I remember flying the B737 SNA-LAS-DFW in FULL aircraft and 3 jumpseat occupants (2 flight deck, 1 FA).
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