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Monkee said:
 
Because (except for Claxon), they are all healthy, well adjusted grownups without the need for self validation and love.
 
Point taken, as I've rarely seen evidenced more spiritually and emotionally balanced and of course entirely "healthy" people as you present:
 
cactusboy53 said:
Oooh. That hurt......
 
You know what I do with hornets in MO?  I spray that insecticide until every single one of them is squirming on the ground in agony.  You in agony yet, Scotty?
 
cactus"pilot"1: Eastus, I understand that the US Airways sign is being removed from the building in Tempe today. Why don't you stand below it so they can drop it on your head."
 
Per "well adjusted grownups without the need for self validation and love." Seriously kid? I mean really? You simply can't be at ALL serious here.....? Sigh!...OK then "Lords and Ladies"....Just even try to begin explaining the following...and forgive me if I especailly laugh at the "fought with valor" bit.  Thanks as always for the dependable laughs. 😉
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT8H9smpK3U
 
 
P.S. I'm willing to compromise a bit here. Your very own mighty "capn' aux" (among his countless, childish fantasies) has pretended to be a fencer of sorts. Since "you'se" AWAsome "spartans" seem unduly reluctant to dazzle us all with a demonstration of your "flying skills"; How 'bout convince him to put up say $5k-to-whatevever $ on a 10 touch/point encounter of even that sort? "He's" after all a mighty "Knight", and I'm just a frail, feeble old eastie....Right? Heck!...I don't even have a "Dire Wolf" T-shirt.  🙂
 
Res Judicata said:
Here's an original thought brought back to you by Judge Silver..."Gear Up ####".
 
Well, then here's some actual, versus merely the best "you'se" could ever offer by way of even pretended "thought"; it really isn't the fault of the rest of the world that you're nothing more than a failed excuse for a person/"man" that proved utterly incapable of even making so much as paltry "dreams" of even just becoming an FBI agent possible for your sorry self son. Not all of us share the obviously sad sufferings of your personal limitations. This is nothing "you'se" should spend the rest of your sad excuse for a "life" wallowing in mindless anger about, but that's for you to decide. An honest bit of advice is to just get over yourself kid, since no one else is ever much likely to "understand" or give the slightest slice of Fk-all concern about your petty, personal BS.
 
Grow Up, or suffer the consequences for choosing otherwise as long as you "live". It really is just that simple. You're pretty much competely screwed here, since your big dream was the FBI, and you flat-out flunked so much as even getting a job there. Even an entirely unearned personal enhacement via any artificially inflated "seniorty" would leave you no less infantiley angry and essentially insane.
 
Should the day ever come that you imagine "you'se" have something/ANYTHING to personally "impress" me with, other than some judicially draped stooge's meanderings, well, perhaps we could then talk. Otherwise?...Keep asking your mommy for more nurturing hugs instead son. No needs to live their life limited to being nothing more than an angrilly whining little child. Your choice.
 
As for ""Gear Up ####"." Try Growing Up instead son. We've all precious little time to see the sun on this earth, and none need waste it in mindless anger. Again; Your choice to make.
 
luvthe9 said:
Your worst nightmare or maybe my alter ego, heck who knows, Big smiles!


Poor Davey boy melting down yet again!
 
No "melt down", Johnny Boy.  Just warming up.  Really BIG smiles. 
 
cactusboy53 said:
 
No "melt down", Johnny Boy.  Just warming up.  Really BIG smiles. 
 
Sigh...And the whole world necessarily stands in utter AWA of just how truly formidable a creature you would certainly be if ever finished with "Just warming up." But who knows?...You might then even flourish a "varsity letter jacket" again.
 
Just curious here: How many decades have "you'se" umm "lived", and how many more would it take for you to finally finish "warming up" and at least offering some/ANY personal achievements at all worthy of even a supposed human being?...Or should I just ask the nearest lawyer/arbitrator/whatever about your "worth" instead? 😉
 
Ten years of your "life" wasted on just a seniority squabble when apparently your whole raison detre for even getting up in the morning was/is just the nic? How truly pathetic is that?
 
Yeah, yeah; I know..."This is Sparta!"....Kindly just spare us all kid.
 
Great letter right on...........





It's finally beginning to sink into the Legacy American Pilots just what a petty individual the self-appointed leader of the West pilots and founder of Leonidas, Eric Ferguson really is. He continues to demonstrate over and over that his sole purpose is to do whatever he can for his fellow Phoenix comrades, even if by doing so, it is detrimental to the pilot group as a whole. Unions have a word for this "it's all about me" behavior.

We have all watched this man continually hurt the entire pilot group and now he demonstrates he will stop at nothing to hurt anyone not from the Legacy America West. The latest example of this is that Ferguson was the ONLY BOD member (out of 22) to object to permitting a former LAA pilot to return to the LAA Seniority list after being out on LTD since 2009. Unlike LUS east pilots on LTD who do not have any time limits to return to active service from LTD, LAA pilots are removed from the seniority list after a five-year period. (the West pilots are removed from the list after eight years with no return).

However, for the LAA pilots, there is a provision that allows a pilot to return to his original placement on the seniority list with BOD approval.

If no BOD member objected to this pilot returning, he would be back on the payroll today, however, PHX Vice-chairman Eric Ferguson was the only BOD member to object. As a result, this pilots return is delayed and a formal board meeting is now required, (either in person or via a conference call) at a cost to the pilots, so they can vote on whether to allow this pilot to return to flying for American Airlines.

Why would Eric Ferguson stoop to such low depths in denying a fellow pilots a job? He stated it was because the West pilots' contract does not have such a provision, so in his myopic view of the world, no one should have it. Add this behavior to the many unprofessional behaviors that we have seen from the West. By his "NO" vote, Eric Ferguson decided to possibly delay the return of a pilot that fought and beat a life ending disease for six years. I'm sure this pilot had no idea his biggest obstacles may be from the side that brings the least to the table. I would guess Ferguson has no understanding of "The Band of Brothers" we are all supposed to emulate, especially a so called, union official.

We are reminded of the resolution that Ferguson brought forward a few weeks ago that would permit pilots on furlough (most, if not all West pilots) and who are also on multiple seniority lists (AA, East, West), the luxury to bypass recall and it will be interesting to see how this will manifest itself in the eyes of the LAA pilots watching this kind of behavior going forward into the future. We have seen selfish unprofessional and in many cases dangerous behavior from the West towards the East. Now it's the turn of the Legacy American pilots to see for themselves what the West brings to this merger. If they don't get their way, will they sabotage airplanes, make unfounded accusations against other pilots, or create dissension in the airline allowing the company to benefit from that dissension?

One thing Eric Ferguson has been successful at however, is his negative ad campaign against USAPA. Apparently his rhetoric has even made its way all the way to the 9th Circuit as they obviously saw fit to ignore the law and help Eric in his quest to attempt to implement an unfair and inequitable list which has no basis in law according to Judge Tashima and will not stand up to the McCaskill Bond Statute on its own merits. It seems Eric is quite aware of this problem which is why his ambulance chasing attorney is doing everything possible to attempt to tie the hands of the Board of Arbitration when even they seem to understand that the only way to a fair and equitable agreement that has the best chances of standing up in court is to have free speech from all parties.

They say a leopard never changes its spots, so I believe the Legacy American pilots will begin to witness for themselves what we have seen since the merger of America West and US Airways. As one American pilot asked me recently, what do they bring to this merger? We already know the answer to that.

Another thing that is certain is that the negative rhetoric of the West and the overwhelming list of sabotage of aircraft from the West will likely ensure that no East and West crews should ever fly together for the remainder of all of their careers. Public safety is a serious concern and after the 8 years+ of hostility from the West, everyone will be culpable, from the company, to the pilots, to the Board of Arbitrators. It has even been reported that one of our Chief Pilots has seen first hand and himself been a victim of West aircraft tampering. The Charlotte reps have recently publicized this tampering and of course Eric was the first on the bandwagon to back pedal. What a surprise. While he advocates that pilots will adapt, it is likely that after all the negative ad campaigns from the West and the constant barrage of threats to our aircraft, our crews, and of course the personal lawsuits against our Officers and BPR members for voting in favor of their constituents; I don't believe there is any level of professionalism that will overcome the threat of public safety should East and West crews be forced to fly together. I wonder what the world would think when they find out that our own pilots are encouraging their families not to fly our aircraft with mixed crews?





West scabs.....big smiles,
 
cactusboy53 said:
No "melt down", Johnny Boy.  Just warming up.  Really BIG smiles.



Another big swing and a miss, you keep on guessing though flounder, that's what your good at........


Sorry Davey boy no NIC for you....
 
EastUS1 said:
 
By no means. The flying wager's always open. It simply serves your twisted little fantasies of somehow actually being even a laughably supposed excuse for a "pilot" to pretend otherwise.
 
Wagered terms include signing a waiver for the video to be released for public viewing. Be the very first of the "army of leonidas" mighty "soldiers" to step right up....? 😉
 
Technological advancements are wonderful. Take just the internet alone. Not only does it provide for us all the ability to access vast amounts of information at a click...but it obviously also affords complete cowards the chance to disdainfully insult other human beings at a safe distance. "Run to mommy" these days amounts to nothing more than furtive typing on some keyboard, it would seem.
 
Try something different for a change, widdle "spartan" kiddies. Be the very first of the "army of leonidas" mighty "soldiers" to step right up into the real world instead...? So far all you've ever managed is some ptifully-self "awarded" cactus "bling" and some idiotic T-shirts and ties. Wouldn't "you'se" just love to present a triumphant video of your AWAsome abilities aloft (as at least even supposed "pilots") being proven against an evil "easthole" for the whole world to see? 😉 Is it really the sad case that none you self-styled "spartan soldiers" actaully have anything better to personally offer than internet smarminess?
 
luvthe9 said:
Great letter right on...........
It's finally beginning to sink into the Legacy American Pilots just what a petty individual the self-appointed leader of the West pilots and founder of Leonidas, Eric Ferguson really is. He continues to demonstrate over and over that his sole purpose is to do whatever he can for his fellow Phoenix comrades, even if by doing so, it is detrimental to the pilot group as a whole. Unions have a word for this "it's all about me" behavior.
We have all watched this man continually hurt the entire pilot group and now he demonstrates he will stop at nothing to hurt anyone not from the Legacy America West. The latest example of this is that Ferguson was the ONLY BOD member (out of 22) to object to permitting a former LAA pilot to return to the LAA Seniority list after being out on LTD since 2009. Unlike LUS east pilots on LTD who do not have any time limits to return to active service from LTD, LAA pilots are removed from the seniority list after a five-year period. (the West pilots are removed from the list after eight years with no return).
However, for the LAA pilots, there is a provision that allows a pilot to return to his original placement on the seniority list with BOD approval.
If no BOD member objected to this pilot returning, he would be back on the payroll today, however, PHX Vice-chairman Eric Ferguson was the only BOD member to object. As a result, this pilots return is delayed and a formal board meeting is now required, (either in person or via a conference call) at a cost to the pilots, so they can vote on whether to allow this pilot to return to flying for American Airlines.
Why would Eric Ferguson stoop to such low depths in denying a fellow pilots a job? He stated it was because the West pilots' contract does not have such a provision, so in his myopic view of the world, no one should have it. Add this behavior to the many unprofessional behaviors that we have seen from the West. By his "NO" vote, Eric Ferguson decided to possibly delay the return of a pilot that fought and beat a life ending disease for six years. I'm sure this pilot had no idea his biggest obstacles may be from the side that brings the least to the table. I would guess Ferguson has no understanding of "The Band of Brothers" we are all supposed to emulate, especially a so called, union official.
We are reminded of the resolution that Ferguson brought forward a few weeks ago that would permit pilots on furlough (most, if not all West pilots) and who are also on multiple seniority lists (AA, East, West), the luxury to bypass recall and it will be interesting to see how this will manifest itself in the eyes of the LAA pilots watching this kind of behavior going forward into the future. We have seen selfish unprofessional and in many cases dangerous behavior from the West towards the East. Now it's the turn of the Legacy American pilots to see for themselves what the West brings to this merger. If they don't get their way, will they sabotage airplanes, make unfounded accusations against other pilots, or create dissension in the airline allowing the company to benefit from that dissension?
One thing Eric Ferguson has been successful at however, is his negative ad campaign against USAPA. Apparently his rhetoric has even made its way all the way to the 9th Circuit as they obviously saw fit to ignore the law and help Eric in his quest to attempt to implement an unfair and inequitable list which has no basis in law according to Judge Tashima and will not stand up to the McCaskill Bond Statute on its own merits. It seems Eric is quite aware of this problem which is why his ambulance chasing attorney is doing everything possible to attempt to tie the hands of the Board of Arbitration when even they seem to understand that the only way to a fair and equitable agreement that has the best chances of standing up in court is to have free speech from all parties.
They say a leopard never changes its spots, so I believe the Legacy American pilots will begin to witness for themselves what we have seen since the merger of America West and US Airways. As one American pilot asked me recently, what do they bring to this merger? We already know the answer to that.
Another thing that is certain is that the negative rhetoric of the West and the overwhelming list of sabotage of aircraft from the West will likely ensure that no East and West crews should ever fly together for the remainder of all of their careers. Public safety is a serious concern and after the 8 years+ of hostility from the West, everyone will be culpable, from the company, to the pilots, to the Board of Arbitrators. It has even been reported that one of our Chief Pilots has seen first hand and himself been a victim of West aircraft tampering. The Charlotte reps have recently publicized this tampering and of course Eric was the first on the bandwagon to back pedal. What a surprise. While he advocates that pilots will adapt, it is likely that after all the negative ad campaigns from the West and the constant barrage of threats to our aircraft, our crews, and of course the personal lawsuits against our Officers and BPR members for voting in favor of their constituents; I don't believe there is any level of professionalism that will overcome the threat of public safety should East and West crews be forced to fly together. I wonder what the world would think when they find out that our own pilots are encouraging their families not to fly our aircraft with mixed crews?
West scabs.....big smiles,
Reeks of the same old USCABA lie machine. :lol: gee, I wonder who wrote this drivel? Of course it's unsigned...so you know it's real.:lol:
 
Metroyet said:
Reeks of the same old USCABA lie machine. :lol: gee, I wonder who wrote this drivel? Of course it's unsigned...so you know it's real. :lol:
 
I'm curious here: on what possible basis could you even begin to imagine that anyone "here" imagines you to be even the least bit "real"?
 
Try something different for a change, widdle "spartan" kiddies. Be the very first of the "army of leonidas" mighty "soldiers" to step right up into the real world instead...? So far all you've ever managed is some ptifully-self "awarded" cactus "bling" and some idiotic T-shirts and ties. Wouldn't "you'se" just love to present a triumphant video of your AWAsome abilities aloft (as at least even supposed "pilots") being proven against an evil "easthole" for the whole world to see?  Is it really the sad case that none you self-styled "spartan soldiers" actaully have anything better to personally offer than internet smarminess?
 
Thanks for the always dependable laughs princess...now go back to watching more Oprah re-runs, discuss your "feelings" with fellow "spartans", thump your hollow chests on keyboards, and perhaps even share a nurturing "group hug" afterwards. Kindly permit the rest of us to just properly laugh. 😉
 
P.S. Stop taking your sorry self so seriously kid. It's a sure bet that the rest of the world will never share in your personal fantasies of absurdly imagined, excessive self-"worth"....just sayin'....No matter really. You may now resume playing your well-rehearsed part of a completely confused fool/"village idiot".
 
luvthe9 said:
Great letter right on...........
It's finally beginning to sink into the Legacy American Pilots just what a petty individual the self-appointed leader of the West pilots and founder of Leonidas, Eric Ferguson really is. He continues to demonstrate over and over that his sole purpose is to do whatever he can for his fellow Phoenix comrades, even if by doing so, it is detrimental to the pilot group as a whole. Unions have a word for this "it's all about me" behavior.
We have all watched this man continually hurt the entire pilot group and now he demonstrates he will stop at nothing to hurt anyone not from the Legacy America West. The latest example of this is that Ferguson was the ONLY BOD member (out of 22) to object to permitting a former LAA pilot to return to the LAA Seniority list after being out on LTD since 2009. Unlike LUS east pilots on LTD who do not have any time limits to return to active service from LTD, LAA pilots are removed from the seniority list after a five-year period. (the West pilots are removed from the list after eight years with no return).
However, for the LAA pilots, there is a provision that allows a pilot to return to his original placement on the seniority list with BOD approval.
If no BOD member objected to this pilot returning, he would be back on the payroll today, however, PHX Vice-chairman Eric Ferguson was the only BOD member to object. As a result, this pilots return is delayed and a formal board meeting is now required, (either in person or via a conference call) at a cost to the pilots, so they can vote on whether to allow this pilot to return to flying for American Airlines.
Why would Eric Ferguson stoop to such low depths in denying a fellow pilots a job? He stated it was because the West pilots' contract does not have such a provision, so in his myopic view of the world, no one should have it. Add this behavior to the many unprofessional behaviors that we have seen from the West. By his "NO" vote, Eric Ferguson decided to possibly delay the return of a pilot that fought and beat a life ending disease for six years. I'm sure this pilot had no idea his biggest obstacles may be from the side that brings the least to the table. I would guess Ferguson has no understanding of "The Band of Brothers" we are all supposed to emulate, especially a so called, union official.
We are reminded of the resolution that Ferguson brought forward a few weeks ago that would permit pilots on furlough (most, if not all West pilots) and who are also on multiple seniority lists (AA, East, West), the luxury to bypass recall and it will be interesting to see how this will manifest itself in the eyes of the LAA pilots watching this kind of behavior going forward into the future. We have seen selfish unprofessional and in many cases dangerous behavior from the West towards the East. Now it's the turn of the Legacy American pilots to see for themselves what the West brings to this merger. If they don't get their way, will they sabotage airplanes, make unfounded accusations against other pilots, or create dissension in the airline allowing the company to benefit from that dissension?
One thing Eric Ferguson has been successful at however, is his negative ad campaign against USAPA. Apparently his rhetoric has even made its way all the way to the 9th Circuit as they obviously saw fit to ignore the law and help Eric in his quest to attempt to implement an unfair and inequitable list which has no basis in law according to Judge Tashima and will not stand up to the McCaskill Bond Statute on its own merits. It seems Eric is quite aware of this problem which is why his ambulance chasing attorney is doing everything possible to attempt to tie the hands of the Board of Arbitration when even they seem to understand that the only way to a fair and equitable agreement that has the best chances of standing up in court is to have free speech from all parties.
They say a leopard never changes its spots, so I believe the Legacy American pilots will begin to witness for themselves what we have seen since the merger of America West and US Airways. As one American pilot asked me recently, what do they bring to this merger? We already know the answer to that.
Another thing that is certain is that the negative rhetoric of the West and the overwhelming list of sabotage of aircraft from the West will likely ensure that no East and West crews should ever fly together for the remainder of all of their careers. Public safety is a serious concern and after the 8 years+ of hostility from the West, everyone will be culpable, from the company, to the pilots, to the Board of Arbitrators. It has even been reported that one of our Chief Pilots has seen first hand and himself been a victim of West aircraft tampering. The Charlotte reps have recently publicized this tampering and of course Eric was the first on the bandwagon to back pedal. What a surprise. While he advocates that pilots will adapt, it is likely that after all the negative ad campaigns from the West and the constant barrage of threats to our aircraft, our crews, and of course the personal lawsuits against our Officers and BPR members for voting in favor of their constituents; I don't believe there is any level of professionalism that will overcome the threat of public safety should East and West crews be forced to fly together. I wonder what the world would think when they find out that our own pilots are encouraging their families not to fly our aircraft with mixed crews?
West scabs.....big smiles,
Why is it Luv, that you never post the name of the author of these missives?

I have a pretty good guess, BG.

At least give him credit for the effort by name.

Can't wait to hear the other side of the story.
 
N924PS said:
Why is it Luv, that you never post the name of the author of these missives?

I have a pretty good guess, BG.

At least give him credit for the effort by name.

Can't wait to hear the other side of the story.
 
Just a bit of whimsical curiosity, but did you ever mention to any of the "spartans" you so eagerly support here that your whole goal was never anything more "noble" than to throw one of them out of their left seat in PHX just so you could have an easier commute?
 
I'm only surprised that both you and "LT Hardy" aren't perpertually out on a global lecture tour loudly espousing the virtues of supposed "Honor". 😉
 
EastUS1 said:
Just a bit of whimsical curiosity, but did you ever mention to any of the "spartans" you so eagerly support here that your whole goal was never anything more "noble" than to throw one of them out of their left seat in PHX just so you could have an easier commute?
 
I'm only surprised that both you and "LT Hardy" aren't perpertually out on a global lecture tour loudly espousing the virtues of "Honor". 😉
No bump, no flush. There would have to have been a vacancy for me to occupy.

Just like it's going to be for you when the Arbs deliver their product next year.

Good luck.
 
N924PS said:
No bump, no flush. There would have to have been a vacancy for me to occupy.

Just like it's going to be for you when the Arbs deliver their product next year.

Good luck.
 
Aw...stop lying and just cheer up. Would it help if I lied and said we all of PSA heritage secretly, really wanted to invite you to the Miramar O club...but you just didn't qualify at all for admission? 😉
 
Given a flat nic, which had NOTHING to do with any "No bump, no flush" you would've cheerfully taken a PHX fellow out of his seat in heartbeat and you/we all know it. You're just 100% pure BS on far too many levels to even bother with. To your inestimable pesonal "credit" and "character" though; it's naturally "surprising" to see that you wish harm on your coworkers of decades.
 
EastUS1 said:
Aw...stop lying and just cheer up. Would it help if I lied and said we all of PSA heritage secretly, really wanted to invite you to the Miramar O club...but you just didn't qualify at all for admission? 😉
 
Given a flat nic, which had NOTHING to do with any "No bump, no flush" you would've cheefully taken a PHX fellow out of his seat in heartbeat and you/we all know it.
Been there several times as a guest of some real fighter pilots, not an Internet Dogfighter like you.

They even let Air Force Trash Haulers in there. Professional courtesy I suppose.
 
N924PS said:
Been there several times as a guest of some real fighter pilots,....
 
Oh! Gosh! My bad...umm...that must make you, by presumed association at least, somehow a "real fighter pilot" then?...And not just some idiotic internet troll? Thanks for the laughs jerkoff. 😉
 
"Been there several times as a guest of some real fighter pilots,..." Directly name so much as one that ever hosted the disgusting likes of you? Oh well..."as a guest of some real fighter pilots" does mightily impress me all by it's self though, and would certainly substantiate your entirely unearned personal arrogance, of course. 🙂 Heck!...Perhaps you could even dare dream of becoming a "spartan soldier" in the "army" of leonidas one day!
 
"not an Internet Dogfighter like you." No such thing as a merely wagered "Dogfight" is ever even possible or at all desired. A little mommy's boy "pilot" like yourself couldn't possibly understand, but "Dogfights" result in deaths. My wager's purely for recreational sport flying.
 
Grow Up.
 
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