2015 Pilot Discussion.

[luvthe9]

Explains all that bent metal.

Guess you mean the latest CLT incident, west crew I believe

 

[CactusPilot1]

That rad nav function clears after the previous approach. If it was there it was a set up.
Nothing like this ever happened ever before until shared metal. If you see it, report it.
And as PI said, it is NOT a preflight item.
There are people tracking these occurrences.

 
I hope the tracking gets to the bottom of this and eliminates the problem.
 

 

[Phoenix]

"Leonidas" just put out an "update" to Silver's ruling.. On C&R... Boy oh boy it's a doozy.

 

[Pi brat]

I don't see it. You're not talking about John Boys rambling, are you?

 

[Phoenix]

I don't see it. You're not talking about John Boys rambling, are you?

Yeah, "update" about "why Judge Silver ruled the way she did.."

It's the most "official" "update" available so far.. meanwhile Leonidas fails to control their own message, as they let others with some credibility go off the reservation. AOL still can't settle their disagreement about what to say regarding Silver's ruling. If she had knocked it out of the park they would have time to crow about it.

 

[Pi brat]

Yeah, "update" about "why Judge Silver ruled the way she did.."
It's the most "official" "update" available so far.. meanwhile Leonidas fails to control their own message, as they let others with some credibility go off the reservation. AOL still can't settle their disagreement about what to say regarding Silver's ruling. If she had knocked it out of the park they would have time to crow about it.

I was under the impression that even AOL doesn't listen to him. I might be wrong there, what a west friend told me.

 

[Phoenix]

Even more reason for them to get ahead of the message. Seems like they can't get along among themselves any better.

 

[cactusboy53]

Guess you mean the latest CLT incident, west crew I believe

So CLEARY, sorry clearly you already know what the situation was. WYE don't you school us, Johnny Boy?

 

[cactusboy53]

"Leonidas" just put out an "update" to Silver's ruling.. On C&R... Boy oh boy it's a doozy.

Well, it seems you are confused (again) Scotty. What you are referring to is a speculative post by Captain John McIlvenna. He makes his arguments, and rightfully mentions the East's proclivity of "cherry picking" Judge Silver’s order. That's all.

As I said, the Leonidas core & the West Merger Committee are preparing for Tuesday. Maybe you should jump off this forum & give your guys some help. They're gonna need it, IMHO.

 

[Pi brat]

Cactus pilot.com shows you and 19 others in the core. Are you all working it? Lot's of cooks in the kitchen

 

[cactusboy53]

Don't worry Sunshine.  It's a collective effort.  Like I said, maybe you should join Scotty and help out the East Merger Committee.  Be sure to use the word "unfair" numerous times. 

 

[Pi brat]

Well, I see you're left to cover the Internet, so we she how valuable your input is.

Since you're here, want to address the rest of my points from earlier? Since you're not doing anything better.

I think our committee has got it handled.

 

[luvthe9]

So CLEARY, sorry clearly you already know what the situation was. WYE don't you school us, Johnny Boy?

QRH....OD 2......moron.......WYE did they not review that page?




To bad ...........no NIC for you flounder

 

[cactusboy53]

QRH....OD 2......moron.......WYE did they not review that page?
To bad ...........no NIC for you flounder

You know what rhythms with NIC? DICK. As in: "Johnny Boy, you're being kind of a ****."

Keep clickin' those heels Johnny Boy.

 

[cactusboy53]

"Leonidas" just put out an "update" to Silver's ruling.. On C&R... Boy oh boy it's a doozy.

Here's the real deal Slick:



Dear Dave,

Recently an Order was issued regarding a Motion for Joinder and Permanent Injunction by Arizona Federal District Court Judge Roslyn O. Silver in the Addington III case based on the 9th Circuit Judgment issued on June 26, 2015 finding that USAPA breached its Duty of Fair Representation (DFR) to the West Pilot Class.

While the West Pilots sought to exercise our rights to a broad injunction to include the recently formed East Pilot Merger Committee, the Court felt otherwise based on the evidence that was available at the time. The West Pilots chose not to seek discovery as that would have the potential effect of further delaying the SLI process already slowed by various USAPA and the East Pilots actions in their attempts to evade a long-standing obligation to honor the 2007 Nicolau Arbitration Award.

Our desire to seek a broad injunction was diminished when the American Airlines Pilot Seniority Integration Committee (AAPSIC), representative of over 10,000 American pilots, made a equitable argument in favor of using the Nicolau Award integration methodology for the US Airways pilots. In the AAPSIC September 19, 2015 proposal to the arbitration board the American Committee states,

The Ninth Circuit’s holding, that the denial of the Nicolau Award in Paragraph 10.h. of the MOU breached USAPA’s duty of fair representation, is effectively the tie-breaker on this [East/West] question. With the Ninth Circuit’s affirmation of the West Pilots’ reasonable expectation of the Nicolau Award, the AASPIC acknowledges it as the starting point for ranking the East and West Pilots on the ISL. As part of the ISL, the US Airways Pilots (East and West) should be ordered based on the Nicolau Award.

Additionally, the Court enjoined the Allied Pilots Association as a defendant, and issued a stern warning to the new East Merger Committee by stating, “Members of the new committee working in concert with USAPA who advocate something other than the Nicolau Award will be subject to contempt sanctions. The new committee members and their counsel must decide, at their substantial peril, whether they are subject to the injunction.”

In closing, we want to thank all of the West pilots who have tirelessly supported this legal effort for over the past eight years. You should be very pleased and proud as our collective persistence and resolve have been rewarded. Now seniority is right back to the arbitration venue from which it started. We are going into the arbitration with a conclusive determination from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals that firmly repudiates the East pilots’ discriminatory actions through their USAPA “stalking horse.” The litigation team is very excited to pass the torch to the very capable West Pilot Merger Committee, led by attorney Jeff Freund and Captain Russ Payne.

One final note: the litigation against the officers of USAPA will continue unabated and we will continue to report developments from Judge Conrad’s court.

Sincerely,

Leonidas, LLC.