2015 Pilot Discussion.

[nevergiveup]

It is all ALPA's fault. Remember they had the fudicary responsibility for monitoring the USAir pilots pension. F -ALPA they were paid off. I despise ALPA more than DP. The best part of USAPA is that the POS ALPA did not get the dues money.

Amen!

 

[nic4us]

 
 
......... you have been treated with the lack of respect for being a west pilot, it will not end for the rest of your career.  Mention in the cockpit you are a former america west pilot will garner you little respect.

 
Frankly, I do not know what the hell you are talking about.  I have never had another pilot disrespect me...um...pretty much ever. At least not to my face.  
 
Oh, and on the seldom occasions when I do ride a jump seat, I make a point of letting the crew know I am a West pilot.  Also, find it interesting the response I get from OAL jump seat riders, and how they tactfully query if the crew is West, followed by the thank God sigh of relief.  Pretty much never fails.
 
Why don't you conduct a little experiment...go out and find yourself an America West crew tag...put it on your bag, and when asked if you are a West crew, go ahead and tell them yes.
 
Please video the resulting dumb look on your face when the van driver, jump seater, hotel bellman, or whatever, slams east pilots as reneging, self-entitled, POS scum.  Happens a lot !! 

 

[nic4us]

So now it's ALPA's fault!

 
ALPA has many faults...However, you can't blame them for the east reneging on contractual commitments to the West and company.
 
Nope, that is all on the usapa=SCAB union.

 

[Freighterguynow]

Please video the resulting dumb look on your face when the van driver, jump seater, hotel bellman, or whatever, slams east pilots !

Hotel van divers and bellhops are the America West pilot peer group !

 

[Black Swan]

Hotel van divers and bellhops are the America West pilot peer group !

Nic4 Us gets stranger by the day. What a strange deal. Now van drivers and bell hops....
Who next in that strange little mind?

 

[EastUS1]

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Please video the resulting dumb look on your face when the van driver, jump seater, hotel bellman, or whatever, slams east pilots as reneging, self-entitled, POS scum.  Happens a lot !! 

 
Yes indeed; "the van driver" (and of course as supportive accomplices) the "hotel bellman, whatever" doubtless lose a great deal of sleep over the nic nonsense...umm..err...OK then....Whew!
 
To even fantasize that "the van driver, jump seater, hotel bellman, or whatever," are at all concerned with your petty BS is nothing short of astonishingly delusional, at least for any slight semblance of even an only supposed "adult."  Consider that the next time you face any mirror and apparently, forever see reflected "the resulting dumb look on your face"...Honestly; some of "you'se" kids just flat-out amaze me sometimes. Consider some much-needed therapy...Seriously.

 

[EastUS1]

It is all ALPA's fault. Remember they had the fudicary responsibility for monitoring the USAir pilots pension. F -ALPA they were paid off. I despise ALPA more than DP. The best part of USAPA is that the POS ALPA did not get the dues money.

 
Plus one here and Amen.

 

[nevergiveup]

ALPA has many faults...However, you can't blame them for the east reneging on contractual commitments to the West and company.
 
Nope, that is all on the usapa=SCAB union.

You should sue!

 

[nic4us]

Hey genius. You conveniently left out the fact those east pilots get almost 50k a yr from PBGC
20 yrs = 1 million. You would not know because your inferior compensation package never had any retirement.

 
Damn, you are stupid.
 
Hey genius, had that pilot who gets 50k/yr from the pbgc for 20 yrs= $1 million....um, taken the Kirby.. s/he would have $2 million.
 
Oh, and for the entire decade we worked for LCC, my retirement package was also better than yours as it is based on percentage of income.

 

[nic4us]

You should sue!

 
Already done did and won!
 
PS.  the BOA is aware of the 9th's decision and their finding that the east pilots should not be allowed to continue to benefit from usapa=SCAB's DFR.

 

[Claxon]

 
Already done did and won!
 
PS.  the BOA is aware of the 9th's decision and their finding that the east pilots should not be allowed to continue to benefit from usapa=SCAB's DFR.

Please explain to the readers about the changes to your bidding power out west since USAPA was voted in.
 
Ten years since the merger and you have been stagnant since.
 
Your thoughts please sir?

 

[nic4us]

Hotel van divers and bellhops are the America West pilot peer group !

 
Yep....I do not consider myself better than a van driver, bellhop, etc...  been there done that, paid for my own education.
 
Maybe you should get off your high horse and take a long look at yourself and figure out that you are no better than a bellhop, or a West pilot, or a flight attendant, ramper, agent, etc.
 
 
Ah, never mind, keep up the entitlement attitude, sure fooled George Nicolau.

 

[Claxon]

 
Damn, you are stupid.
 
Hey genius, had that pilot who gets 50k/yr from the pbgc for 20 yrs= $1 million....um, taken the Kirby.. s/he would have $2 million.
 
Oh, and for the entire decade we worked for LCC, my retirement package was also better than yours as it is based on percentage of income.

Take a 1988 hire that is now captain for two years and compare it to your reserve f/o pay since USAPA was vote in.
 
Your arithmetic findings sir?

 

[Claxon]

Q = freund, west alpa attorney  A = Kelly Ison, East pilot wittness.
 
 
 
"Q. Okay. Are you familiar with the decision
3 that Arbitrator Nicolau issued in connection with
4 the list that he created?
 
5 A. Somewhat.
 
6 Q. Right. You would agree with me, would you
7 not, that he took into account in that decision and
8 he articulated in the decision that he was taking
9 into account the different attrition rates, the
10 different equipment -- and the different equipment
11 that folks brought to the merger of US Airways and
12 America West, and constructed the list taking that
13 into account?
 
14 A. Yeah. I heard that said, but I don't know
15 how he did it.
 
16 Q. But you don't quarrel with the proposition
17 that he says he -- that he said that he heard that
18 evidence and took it into account; correct?
 
19 A. Sure.
 
20 MR. WILDER: Arbitrator Jaffe, if I may,
21 this is really getting into the realm of legal
22 argument.
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1 And respectfully, I'm not a potted plant.
2 I mean, counsel gets to argue what awards mean or
3 don't mean. If he wants to elicit the question
4 that -- I would leave that to the Panel and to you.
5 I just don't want to be prejudiced in
6 making my legal arguments by trying to elicit a
7 legal opinion from a lay witness.
8 That's my only point.
 
9 MR. FREUND: I don't think I was asking
10 for a legal opinion.
11 I was simply asking whether he read the
12 opinion and whether the opinion recites that he took
13 it into account.
 
14 MR. WILDER: Well, and, again, my point is
15 interpreting the opinion, arguing from the opinion
16 is what lawyers do, not witnesses.
 
17 MR. FREUND: That was my last question on
18 that subject, so I don't think we need to really
19 spend much time on it."

 

[nic4us]

Please explain to the readers about the changes to your bidding power out west since USAPA was voted in.
 
Ten years since the merger and you have been stagnant since.
 
Your thoughts please sir?

 
Well, sure...since the scab union was voted in, we were able to keep east pilots (many very senior like Sully)  out of PHX and my bidding power improved just marginally, rather than deteriorate due to having those senior guys come in on top of me, which BTW was their right to do, and usapa=SCAB screwed them out of it.
 
With the NIc, the top 517 and a 2/3 ratio, east pilots could have owned the top of ALL bases including PHX....sorry the usapa=SCAB union screwed them out of PHX and LAS while it was around.
 
At the same time my income remained higher than lets say...??..... Sully's, as he held the same aircraft and seat as me, but on LOA93.
 
 
Hey, you know what, I just thought of something....you east guys told us we would own the entire airline in ten years......I think you actually got that one right!!!!!