2015 Pilot Discussion.

[cactusboy53]

Did you hear this fodder from Johny Mc your alpa mec leader, you know the one who stood up in a phx meeting with doug parker and claimed East pilots were slowing down.
 
Hey, cactusboy53, how does it feel to be stagnant for 10 years in a fishbowl?
david braid, how does it feel?
 
Davids, you wanted punitive damages from the East pilot, you wanted to spike the ball.  fishbowlers!

Nope. I read it in all of the ALPA updates, court testimony and legal proceedings. You know.....truth.

 

[Claxon]

Depends. Isn't there a James Ray listed on that non-existent list, and isn't that person a CAL s××b? Is that person a member of APA?

You're still a cheat & liar.

bob baldock was listed as an america west pilot and Eastern Airlines scab. How was he helpful to you in your nic conquest?

 

[Claxon]

Nope. I read it in all of the ALPA updates, court testimony and legal proceedings. You know.....truth

fishbowl life in phx? Ten years?  675 dollar ties?

 

[Claxon]

cactusboy53, I heard a rumor the bob baldock has a legal family connection. 
 
I looked at the APA Union list and found that he is not a member in good standing.  Why?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

We are separate because uscaba was willing to work for sub-union wages and work rules for an entire decade.
 
Congrats to those uscaba supporters who got a premature upgrade at 70% pay.  It cost your coworkers hundreds of thousands of dollars each!

. A premature (raise) at a 3% premium ,your just a blithering idiot! Those supporters were not willing to let those raises go to a group hired a decade after them , for 3% and why in the world would over 20 WEST pilots furloughed file a grievance to stay EAST, if it was not financially beneficial to do so, you obviously flunked math!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Thank you for your 10 year " I will screw myself and show USAPA campaign" ! IMHO you will get nothing out of your mediation for filing costs that will be pennies on the dollar , no damages were awarded and spin it as you may your addingtons that were tossed , yes tossed are wasted money! USAPA is not there to "Advocate" the NIC but AA would why? Avoid a DFR, "oh we tried" and to take the most senior group(EAST) and adjust their longevity down the line, unlike your theory of bumping it up! Nope the EAST will take their next good years and ride off into the sunset, my prediction, 2 more years for your Liberty tie gang swimming stagnated in Phx and the true beneficiaries the natives, rightfully so! All the best!

 

[luvthe9]

Davey boy is melting down again..,,,,,



No NIC for you

 

[Phoenix]

And yet, the APA's seniority committee argued that the Nicolau list MUST be the beginning point for the LUS pilots going into this new merger.
BTW, the hard copy is on Parker's desk. It's been there since 2007. It sits next to the contract you ran away from. Real men of genius.

The APA does not have a seniority committee. Try to keep up, Genius. Just sayin'.

 

[Phoenix]

. A premature (raise) at a 3% premium ,your just a blithering idiot! Those supporters were not willing to let those raises go to a group hired a decade after them , for 3% and why in the world would over 20 WEST pilots furloughed file a grievance to stay EAST, if it was not financially beneficial to do so, you obviously flunked math!

Do tell us more about these 20 brave souls..

 

[luvthe9]

This is because you ran away from your commitment and contract negotiations. Idiot.

You were offered the NIC at Wye..........idiot, should have taken it.

 

[cactusboy53]

Davey boy is melting down again..,,,,,

No NIC for you

 

• Knock...knock. 
• Who's there?
• FINAL.
• Final, who?
• FINAL & BINDING, just like the last time (and BTW, I'm not melting down). 😀 😀 😀

That's when esteemed & respected arbitrator George Nicolau said this:
 
“In this instance, despite a year of negotiating efforts, there was no agreement on a list. Subsequently, the Representatives choose the Undersigned as Board Chairman and opted for the Med-Arb process. Those mediation efforts, held over the course of five days in October 2006, were similarly unsuccessful. Thereafter, the Parties agreed on the arbitration ground rules, and, pursuant to the Policy, each chose a Pilot Neutral from ALPA's Pilot Neutral Master List as a nonvoting member of the Arbitration Board.”
 
George Nicolau, Mediator

AWA/AAA Opinion & Award; May 07, 2007

 

[cactusboy53]

You were offered the NIC at Wye..........idiot, should have taken it.

 
 
I already told you Johnny Boy, what ever you offered was NOT yours to change.  We DO NOT negotiate with terrorists.  We stood and remain on legal, moral & ethical high ground. 
 
I'm glad you this this is so funny.  That tells me you at least have a sense of humor, and that will serve you well come this summer.  Laugh it up, Bubby.
 

• Knock...knock.
• Who's there?
• Final.
• Final, who?
• FINAL & BINDING

That's when el Presidente' Mike Cleary said this:
 
[SIZE=12pt]“…The Arbitration Board conducts an evidentiary hearing, with witnesses, evidence and a stenographic transcript. The Board’s Opinion and Award are to be issued simultaneously, within 150 days following the PID, unless both pilot groups and ALPA’s President agree to an extension. The Merger Policy provides, “The Award of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties to the arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA.” No ALPA seniority integration arbitration result has ever been set aside by the courts although some dissatisfied pilots have challenged the award before administrative agencies and the courts.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]US Airwaves June/July 2000[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]US Air Merger Committee Members: Todd Cardoza (PIT), Mike Cleary (BOS),Randy Mowery (PIT)[/SIZE]

 

[cactusboy53]

The APA does not have a seniority committee. Try to keep up, Genius. Just sayin'.

 
And you couldn't figure out the party that I was speaking of.  No wonder you don't get "Final & Binding".  Try to keep up.

 

[cactusboy53]

. A premature (raise) at a 3% premium ,your just a blithering idiot! Those supporters were not willing to let those raises go to a group hired a decade after them , for 3% and why in the world would over 20 WEST pilots furloughed file a grievance to stay EAST, if it was not financially beneficial to do so, you obviously flunked math!

 
Sorry Mut.  You CLEARY.....sorry CLEARLY flunked math.  You see it's like a story-problem.  You MUST read the proposal, AND read the COURT TESTIMONY, and all of the other stuff to FULLY understand that there was MUCH more than the 3% you claim.  Heck, you have even read that in the USAPA MINUTES.  Real men of genius (NOT).

 

[cactusboy53]

Thank you for your 10 year " I will screw myself and show USAPA campaign" ! IMHO you will get nothing out of your mediation for filing costs that will be pennies on the dollar , no damages were awarded and spin it as you may your addingtons that were tossed , yes tossed are wasted money! USAPA is not there to "Advocate" the NIC but AA would why? Avoid a DFR, "oh we tried" and to take the most senior group(EAST) and adjust their longevity down the line, unlike your theory of bumping it up! Nope the EAST will take their next good years and ride off into the sunset, my prediction, 2 more years for your Liberty tie gang swimming stagnated in Phx and the true beneficiaries the natives, rightfully so! All the best!

 
Sorry MUT, but that delay is all on you and the USAPA faithful.  You balked at your commitment, ran away from the the negotiation table, cried foul to ALPA, tried to sue AWA ALPA, fired up a new union EXPRESSLY to dodge your commitment, wrongfully persecuted the AWA pilot group in an effort to get us to capitulate to your will, and have lied, cheated and done everything both legally and illegally to dodge the Nicolau Seniority List.
 
USAPA was and remains an abject failure.