2015 Pilot Discussion.

[cactusboy53]

WYE on earth would think that, Johnny Boy? I'm just trying to school you on "integrity". I must say you are a VERY slow study.

Now repeat after me: "When my CBA signs as a party to an arbitration, I too am bound by that agreement."

 

[luvthe9]

WYE on earth would think that, Johnny Boy? I'm just trying to school you on "integrity". I must say you are a VERY slow study.
Now repeat after me: "When my CBA signs as a party to an arbitration, I too am bound by that agreement."

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I'm not the one stuck in the fishbowl flounder, Wye did destroy you the careers and lie to the pilots you represented.........yes they know what you did!



Hey Wye not put out another heart breaking PHX update.





"Remember guys we did this to ourselves"................

 

[luvthe9]

The MIGHTY U-Turn Says: WE TOLD YOU SO!
"U-Turn: Taking Responsibility According to our reports, on Day One of Wye River, Jeff Freund warned the West MEC that if USAPA won, the West risked losing everything. ALPA's lawyers knew the list was negotiable,"
"Our former MEC and our union leadership played a very high stakes game of poker by not dealing at Wye River. Freund was right, we were risking everything..and right now, it looks like we lost. They need to take responsibility for that."
"The U-Turn Wye River: ALPA's Last Stand Back to Wye River. Did West Merger Attorney and West MEC advisor Jeff Freund really walk out of talks because the MEC refused to give on the NIC or did West MC Chairman Ken Stravers chase him out?"
Dave Blomgren, for the U-Turn
Wye Davey boy did you not listen to Mr. Blomgren?.................is he a liar? Still waiting for that answer!

Read it again Davey boy!

 

[Pi brat]

 
[SIZE=12pt]The Board shall retain jurisdiction[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] in accordance with Section H. 5 .b. of the ALPA Merger Policy to resolve any disputes over the meaning or interpretation of this Award. This retention of jurisdiction shall terminate when all provisions of the Award have been satisfied. In the event the Chairman becomes unavailable or unwilling to serve to resolve such disputes, the Merger Committees will agree on a replacement Chairman or will select one by the alternate strike method from the most recent ALPA list of seniority integrations arbitrators.  In the event one of the Pilot Neutrals becomes unable or unwilling to serve on the Arbitration Board to resolve such disputes, the Chairman, after consultation with the Parties, shall decide how to proceed.  In any such arbitration, if there is a dispute between the methodology contained in the Award and the accompanying Integrated Seniority List or any other list purportedly using such methodology, the Seniority List prevails.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]George Nicolau, Mediator[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]AWA/AAA Opinion & Award; May 07, 2007[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Now, I'm just trying to think logically....IF the Nicolau list is cast out as null & void, what EXACTLY does that do the point of the whole process?  What does that do to the THOUSANDS of prior arbitration in our industry and other industries?  How does that affect future arbitration processes?[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]It seems to me that one act will demolish the foundation of meditations and the arbitration process.  I guess that's what I get for listening to my "still small voice".[/SIZE]

 

You agreed to throw it, and the rest of our contracts out. When you go to bed tonight that still, small  voice will remind you of that. If you're really a Christian.

 

[traderjake]

 

[Phoenix]

 
The Board shall retain jurisdiction[SIZE=12pt] in accordance with Section H. 5 .b. of the ALPA Merger Policy to resolve any disputes over the meaning or interpretation of this Award. [/SIZE]This retention of jurisdiction shall terminate when all provisions of the Award have been satisfied. In the event the Chairman becomes unavailable or unwilling to serve to resolve such disputes, the Merger Committees will agree on a replacement Chairman or will select one by the alternate strike method from the most recent ALPA list of seniority integrations arbitrators.  In the event one of the Pilot Neutrals becomes unable or unwilling to serve on the Arbitration Board to resolve such disputes, the Chairman, after consultation with the Parties, shall decide how to proceed.  In any such arbitration, if there is a dispute between the methodology contained in the Award and the accompanying Integrated Seniority List or any other list purportedly using such methodology, the Seniority List prevails.
 
George Nicolau, Mediator

AWA/AAA Opinion & Award; May 07, 2007
 
Now, I'm just trying to think logically....IF the Nicolau list is cast out as null & void, what EXACTLY does that do the point of the whole process?  What does that do to the THOUSANDS of prior arbitration in our industry and other industries?  How does that affect future arbitration processes?
 
It seems to me that one act will demolish the foundation of meditations and the arbitration process.  I guess that's what I get for listening to my "still small voice".

 

 
 
Who, pray tell, had jurisdiction over IMPLEMENTATION of the award?
 
Nicolau never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction. 
 
Führer Prater never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction.  
 
Judge Wake never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction. 
 
Judge Silver never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction. 
 
Judge Buyme never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction. 
 
Judge Grabber never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction. 
 
Marty never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction. 
 
Liberty Tie hucksters never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction.
 
East pilots that voted for ALPA never had IMPLEMENTATION jurisdiction.
 
It isn't complicated..
 
Who had implementation jurisdiction....?  The pilots could have implemented the Nicolau award at any time they wanted to, pursuant to the contingencies of the 2005 TA, but instead the pilots chose to accept the company's new offer to nullify the 2005 TA and hand over the new SLI to the new arbitration panel, pursuant to MB and a new protocol agreement.  
 
Good luck!!

 

[Claxon]

 

west pilot virtural exhibit A thru Z, in the recent MB SLI BOA proceedings

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
OJ Simpson rushed for 2000 yards in a single season.
 
What's your point?

 
Pay attention, Fluffy.  If you did you would have seen my point.

 

[Claxon]

 

 

[nevergiveup]

WYE on earth would think that, Johnny Boy? I'm just trying to school you on "integrity". I must say you are a VERY slow study.

Now repeat after me: "When my CBA signs as a party to an arbitration, I too am bound by that agreement."

If we break away from American and become US Airways again...
 
and if we sign a contract...
 
then the Nic will be used.

 

[cactusboy53]

Read it again Davey boy!

Here's the deal, Johnny Boy. I choose to read INFORMED and LEARNED documents. You know, like that of District Court Judges, learned counsel of LUS, and even some stuff from el Presidente MIke Cleary.

Blogs from some person that had NO EARTHLY IDEA of what he spoke....not so much. Now study hard, Johnny Boy. There will be a test later.

Repeat: "When I give my word, I will NOT renege."

 

[cactusboy53]

If we break away from American and become US Airways again...
 
and if we sign a contract...
 
then the Nic will be used.

Yea, sure. You keep saying that over, and over, and over again.

 

[cactusboy53]

You agreed to throw it, and the rest of our contracts out. When you go to bed tonight that still, small  voice will remind you of that. If you're really a Christian.

Sorry Bub, you can't have it both ways. Our sling has cast a nice smooth stone. We'll see if it strikes the giant's forehead.

 

[EastUS1]

Here's the deal, Johnny Boy. I choose to read INFORMED and LEARNED documents.

 
That seems a bit unlikely. Why then is "you'se" signature line ""So long boys. See you in the funny papers."?   

 

[luvthe9]

Sorry Bub, you can't have it both ways. Our sling has cast a nice smooth stone. We'll see if it strikes the giant's forehead.

Desperate Dave on another rant...........