2015 Pilot Discussion.

[traderjake]

That gentleman Trader speaks of is a SCAB!

 
You are a liar and an idiot.
 
The difference between you and a scab?
 
A scab doesn't pretend what he did is honorable.

 

[FL430]

Where is that pesky BS FLAG emoji??
 
adjective, huger, hugest.
1.  extraordinarily large in bulk, quantity, or extent:

"...USAPA has spent a huge portion of dues on FRUITLESS litigation."


2.  of unbounded extent, scope, or character; limitless:

"....when we found Bradford's exchange with other attorneys, it was a huge find!"
 
Look, Iceman.  If "you'se" boys are going to REFUSE to research your statements, this education campaign just for "you'se" is going to take a VERY LONG time.  Lucky for you, I'm a bit like a pit bull.  I'm just not going to let "you'se" forget what a bunch cheats & thieves you are.  Lucky for all of us is that the BOA knows what kind of folks "you'se" boys are as well.
 
Allow me to do YOUR homework for you:
 
Let's pretend that AWA had only 1000 pilots back during the Ansett event.  I counted as you asked (Einstein), and there were only 34 AWA pilots.  I'd be willing to admit that 34 is certainly more that what "several" would mean.  There were 2 or 3 listed TWICE (different spellings), thus making the ultimate validity of the list "suspect".  Further, there were MANY names that I did not recognize.  That is not to say that I know every living soul that is and was here, BUT I count myself as reasonably knowledgeable with the AWA group of pilots.
 
34 pilots of 1000 (I'm quite sure there were more, since we had 1800+ in the mid-2000's) is only 3.4%, SOOOOOOO that is ACTUALLY LESS than the 5% that I mentioned.  The truth (continues) to HURT, huh Einstein?  MORON.

You need to go back to school and learn math Dave. AWest didn't have 1000 pilots in 1989, maybe you should go back to school and study history as well.

A little more of your history:

b Russell, Chief of Pilots, and Carl Wobser, a captain, all pleaded guilty to multiple counts of narcotics trafficking. [8]

In 1989, Ansett used its influence and investment money in America West Airlines, to try to break a pilots strike in Australia. 1989 Australian pilots' dispute. The following article is from an America West pilot who crossed the Australian pilots' picket line. The Down UnderWare Chronicles America West Pilot article.

 

[FL430]

You are a liar and an idiot.
 
The difference between you and a scab?
 
A scab doesn't pretend what he did is honorable.

How do you know this? You know a lot of scabs? Birds of a feather Dan.

 

[FL430]

WRONG again LIAR.  What a surprise (not)!!  You remain the biggest liar and thief here Johnny Boy.

A real proud scab aren't you Dave? Recognize the author? He was one of your own.



"But, I agree and support his decision to send us to Australia. I am proud of the accomplishments we made and the professional manner with which we made them. Ansett Airlines has learned a lot from us about operating a deregulated airline.


The America West presence will be felt there long after we all come home."

 

[cactusboy53]

You need to go back to school and learn math Dave. AWest didn't have 1000 pilots in 1989, maybe you should go back to school and study history as well.
A little more of your history:
b Russell, Chief of Pilots, and Carl Wobser, a captain, all pleaded guilty to multiple counts of narcotics trafficking. [8]
In 1989, Ansett used its influence and investment money in America West Airlines, to try to break a pilots strike in Australia. 1989 Australian pilots' dispute. The following article is from an America West pilot who crossed the Australian pilots' picket line. The Down UnderWare Chronicles America West Pilot article.

Look Slick...you DO know that if AWA only had 500 pilots that would be 6% (way more than that, Einstien)....rather than A HUGE NUMBER. Did you even pass a math quiz to get this far in aviation, or did you buy a clue?

Come back when you can can communicate without exaggerating or worse, lying like Johnny Boy.

 

[cactusboy53]

A real proud scab aren't you Dave? Recognize the author? He was one of your own.
"But, I agree and support his decision to send us to Australia. I am proud of the accomplishments we made and the professional manner with which we made them. Ansett Airlines has learned a lot from us about operating a deregulated airline.
The America West presence will be felt there long after we all come home."

Uhm...former USAPA Communications Director James Ray?

Don't worry Slick. The BOA knows exactly who they are dealing with.

 

[luvthe9]

Don't worry Slick. The BOA knows exactly who they are dealing with.

Yes they do, say bye bye NIC ...............Wye River........just going to be "epic"

 

[luvthe9]

 
A scab doesn't pretend what he did is honorable.

Well that perfectly sums up you and you west buddies

 

[Phoenix]

Uhm...former USAPA Communications Director James Ray?
Don't worry Slick. The BOA knows exactly who they are dealing with.

The BOA made it clear that the East should have a committee so that (in addition to their mandate of "fair and equitable"), regardless of how much the East dislikes the BOA decision, the East would know they were represented.. and thus make the BOA decision that much more unassailable.

In your blind rage, you demand the BOA exact "justice" and revenge (in a fair an equitable manner according only to your liking) when the courts have fallen silent and refused to do for you what you now ask the BOA to do. Is it just possible that the BOA gave the West a seat so as to make their decision (in addition to "fair and equitable").. that much more unassailable?

 

[cactusboy53]

The BOA made it clear that the East should have a committee so that (in addition to their mandate of "fair and equitable"), regardless of how much the East dislikes the BOA decision, the East would know they were represented.. and thus make the BOA decision that much more unassailable.
In your blind rage, you demand the BOA exact "justice" and revenge (in a fair an equitable manner according only to your liking) when the courts have fallen silent and refused to do for you what you now ask the BOA to do. Is it just possible that the BOA gave the West a seat so as to make their decision (in addition to "fair and equitable").. that much more unassailable?

That's so when you cry, pick up your toys from the sandbox and find a lawyer to take your money & promise the moon (how hard wI'll that be??!!??)...the BOA can honestly say th as the you were given your opportunity to make your case (just like DOH!!).

 

[nic4us]

The BOA made it clear that the East should have a committee so that (in addition to their mandate of "fair and equitable"), regardless of how much the East dislikes the BOA decision, the East would know they were represented.. and thus make the BOA decision that much more unassailable.

In your blind rage, you demand the BOA exact "justice" and revenge (in a fair an equitable manner according only to your liking) when the courts have fallen silent and refused to do for you what you now ask the BOA to do. Is it just possible that the BOA gave the West a seat so as to make their decision (in addition to "fair and equitable").. that much more unassailable?

 
The courts have not "fallen silent" when dealing with the scab union.
 
As a matter of fact and court record, every federal judge who has seen the scab union has admonished their behavior.
 
"dismissed with prejudice"...."devoid of reality"...."on dangerous ground"....numerous times the scab union was straight up called liars, cheats, scum, and whiners, just in a flowery on the court record terms.
 
Also, nobody is "demanding the BOA exact justice and REVENGE".  There is absolutely ZERO call from the West proposal that seeks any sort of "revenge".
 
You post the stupidest, most inaccurate, lying BS on this board.  I suspect you were once a former scab union mouthpiece!

 

[nic4us]

 
You are a liar and an idiot.
 
The difference between you and a scab?
 
A scab doesn't pretend what he did is honorable.

 
With all the talk of math we need to change the equation. It should read....
 
USAPA<SCAB

 

[Phoenix]

The courts have not "fallen silent" when dealing with the scab union.
 
As a matter of fact and court record, every federal judge who has seen the scab union has admonished their behavior.
 
"dismissed with prejudice"...."devoid of reality"...."on dangerous ground"....numerous times the scab union was straight up called liars, cheats, scum, and whiners, just in a flowery on the court record terms.
 
Also, nobody is "demanding the BOA exact justice and REVENGE".  There is absolutely ZERO call from the West proposal that seeks any sort of "revenge".
 
You post the stupidest, most inaccurate, lying BS on this board.  I suspect you were once a former scab union mouthpiece!

Only one motivated by justice and revenge would ever pay $675 for a $20 silkscreen tie made in China. P.S. The 330 trips rock.

 

[traderjake]

How do you know this? You know a lot of scabs? Birds of a feather Dan.

 
 
You mean James Ray?

 

[luvthe9]

CASE DISMISSED!!!!!


Claxon, on 20 Aug 2014 - 8:03 PM, said:
Mark Doyal, west pilot, is an attorney giving advice to the west pilots.

Disturbing avatar and posts.
.pdf]http://leonidas.cact...District/65-14[1].pdf


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Note: this statement originally appeared on StopPolygraph.com.

Polygraph Statement of Mr. Mark C. Doyal

I had always wanted to be an FBI agent. With that singular goal in mind, I enrolled in Southwest Texas State University in the fall of 1988. My major was Law Enforcement with a minor in Economics. I graduated in December 1990 and I took the written FBI exam that next January. I passed and was scheduled for an interview in March of 1991. The interview went great and I achieved a perfect score. However, the FBI determined that I needed more experience and informed me to re-apply in two years. I immediately took the Law School Admissions Test and applied to South Texas College of Law in Houston, Texas. I was excepted for the class beginning in January 1991. I was fortunate in that I was able to obtain employment on a full time basis with the Harris County District Attorney's Office - Economic Crime Division. I remember my new boss asking me after he interviewed me what I planned on achieving with a law career. I immediately responded that I wanted a career with the FBI. Everyone who I met knew that that was my goal.

Working full time for the District Attorney while attending law school at night was tough, but I knew I had to get the right kind of experience and education to make myself the best possible candidate for the FBI. Upon graduation from law school (Dec. 1994), I re-applied with the FBI. I was scheduled to take the written exam on a Monday following the Bar exam. I again passed the written exam and had to wait to be selected for the interview. I wrote letters nearly every month to the applicant coordinator asking to be interviewed and explaining what I was doing each month. Finally, I was selected to be interviewed in Kansas City in July of 1996. Seven of us in our region were selected to go, but only two of us passed the interview process. Myself and another girl. I was on top of the world, knowing that I was about to realize my dream.

The polygraph exam was next, August 7, 1996, in San Antonio, Texas. I knew I had nothing to worry about, since I had never violated the FBI's drug policy and I had not lied on my application. The agent administering the polygraph noted during the pre- polygraph interview that I had attended a university that he believed was a "party school" and that I needed to tell him what drugs I used when I went there. I stated that I had taken none, that I didn't live on campus, I lived in another city, and that I was an older student and wasn't influenced to do such things. He repeated that that couldnít be the case and told me again to tell him what illegal drugs I had done. I countered again that that just wasn't the case and that I was telling the truth. This went back and forth for about 10 minutes and he seemed to be getting upset that I wouldnít admit to taking drugs. Finally he stated that if I was lying he was about to find out. I was upset at the unbelievable accusations he was making. Up until that point I had been treated with the utmost professionalism by the FBI staff, now I was being treated like an accused criminal. After the polygraph was over, he told me I had failed. I almost passed out in disbelief

I wrote several letters to FBI Director Freeh, and in October of 1996 I was polygraphed again, by another agent with the first agent who polygraphed me present. The results were the same, he told me I had failed. I just could not believe it. I had not lied on the polygraph. Even the first agent that had polygraphed me told me as I was leaving that he now believed me, that I was telling the truth. I wrote the Director several more times to no avail, my application was terminated in November of that year. My dreams were shattered.

Finally, as a side note, I later applied with the Secret Service. I did just as well in the testing and interview stages as I had with the FBI. When it came time for the polygraph, the agent administering it asked me if I had been polygraphed before. I told him yes, and under what circumstances and the results. He thanked me for my honesty, unhooked me from the polygraph without testing me and told me that he would have to contact his superiors for their advice. I could not believe it. Two months later I received a form letter stating that I was no longer competitive with the other agent applicants. I am a licensed attorney, professional pilot, have law enforcement experience and with top scores but I was not competitive? Obviously I had been "black balled" by the erroneous polygraph results from the FBI.

I will probably always be effected by the injustice of what happened. I wrote a final letter to Director Freeh this summer asking for another polygraph. I even offered to pay all expenses associated with retaking it if I were to fail. I guess I still haven't accepted that you can fail a polygraph while telling the truth. Or the fact that the FBI could make this kind of mistake. I had always looked up to that agency as the pinnacle of professionalism. I received the same form letter back that I had received almost two years earlier. It is a shame, since all I wanted to do was to have a chance to serve my country and make my family proud.



Sincerely,



Mark C. Doyal



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