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west pilots even admit to missing their old Union. They want to remove the US from this video and re brand it. Who woulda thunk!


 
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Was that really made by an adult? If so, completely childish and embarrassing!
 
The weak APA leadership actually caved and advocated the Nic. Their support helped move the needle toward the Westies and away from their own F/Os. Thank God Wilson and Roghair are out of office. They had to have rocks in their heads.

Westies are flooding into LA and Dallas. It's a bloodbath for the American right seaters. What a travesty. Great job, APA! Morons.

Wilson and Roghair torpedoed the negotiations by their public statements. LAX and ORD followed. Hooper (ORD) said he needed the money to qualify for his 500K+ mortgage.

Short sighted pushovers.
 
Anyone ever notice that there is not a single camera in the PHX pilot base crew room? CLT and PHL pilot operations crew rooms have more HD cameras with microphones than a Las Vegas casino. Whom do you think Boss Hogg was afraid of, especially with the PHX MEC chairman, JMac, publicly inquiring how to turn in fellow pilots for two engine taxi. We were never going to get a contract or any list until management needed one. Welcome AA.
 
MORE INFORMATION ON AMERICA WEST DRUG RUNNERS: "I roamed the internet for articles that might tell us who Thomas Gary Smith was and why he would have been mentioned in the "Drug Tug" case

On January 10, 1988 The Arizona Republic ran a story on fugitives and mentioned that Thomas Gary Smith aka George Earl Hannah was convicted in Massachusetts in 1978 for smuggling marijuana. He disappeared and next turned up in Michigan as Thomas Gary Vance. He was arrested in Sacramento California December 3,1987 in connection with a conspiracy charge. Three America West Pilots, Earl Patrick Thurston, Robert J Russell, and Carl Joe Webster part of this conspiracy which took place in 1985.

This smuggling operation was linked to Jaime Bermudez-Botero. These pilots were charged with using a DC-6 aircraft to fly marijuana into Texas, and Arizona from Columbia. The aircraft was registered to Desert Petroleum. The principle in Desert Petroleum was "Ralph Carmichael" which was an alias used by Thurston. The three pilots were released on bail, but Smith who was also arrested in this case was not given bail. July 15, 1989, Helmut B Bubbel, the owner of the Pump House Restaurant in Fairbanks, Alaska was charged as a co-conspirator. Bubbel's attorney, Edward Novak said his client had an outstanding military record and hadn't done anything wrong in his entire life. He was former Vice President of the Fairbanks Convention and Visitors Center. He was charged with meeting with Smith and Thurston to plan the purchase of the plane for $ 315,000.00. It was speculated that Helmut Bubbel had been, perhaps was a CIA operative.

Before Thomas Gary Smith and Helmet Bubbel's trial began in June of 1990, the three America West Pilots had accepted plea bargains that required them to be witnesses for the prosecution. It was decided that Smith was the key member of the plot. Smith's attorney was Bernie Segal from San Francisco. Prosecutors said Smith headed an arm of an international marijuana smuggling operation that was paying for Smith's defense and the prosecutors said that Segal had a conflict of interest. Segal moved to remove himself, but his request was not granted.

Earl Thurston, a former Vice President of America West was to be the government's star witness against Thomas Gary Smith The Judge was US District Judge Paul Rosenblatt. The three pilots, Thurston, Russell , and Wobser said they became part of the conspiracy because it was big money and a bit of adventure. All three were founding pilots of America West. Thurston, a Vice President, said the scheme took them from Thailand, Canada, Mexico, Columbia and Arube. Thurston had been a pilot with the CIA Airlines Air America. The three pilots were sentenced to two years and testified against Smith who was convicted. The Bureau of Prisons web site now says that the three pilots were unknown to the prison system and were never incarcerated. Smith, who was convicted, was sentenced to 25 years in prison. Bernard Segal said Smith was just a middle man and prosecutors wanted to punish him because he would not cooperate.


So - now I thought I knew of two smuggling operations that Prosecutors had decided to link to John, These two cases were the Calvin Robinson case where the barge was seized under the Golden Gate Bridge, and the case where the three pilots from America West were arrested. Both cases on the internet claimed links to the CIA. This presents a problem for me, as I have never adopted a single conspiracy theory in my life. I believe the single bullet theory of the Warren Commission. I don't know or care about Roswell, but I think it is probably something innocuous. I know little about Iran- Contra, but intend to find out more. I don't believe the government spies on folks without a warrant. Life has been straight forward. Well, it must be taken for what it is.

I could not find much information about this case, but many years later Prosecutors chose this as their starting point for John's prosecution."
 
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Anyone ever notice that there is not a single camera in the PHX pilot base crew room? CLT and PHL pilot operations crew rooms have more HD cameras with microphones than a Las Vegas casino. Whom do you think Boss Hogg was afraid of, especially with the PHX MEC chairman, JMac, publicly inquiring how to turn in fellow pilots for two engine taxi. We were never going to get a contract or any list until management needed one. Welcome AA.

I've long suspected the PHX "spartans" had company implanted shock collars via some strange surgical/"spiritual" ritual when initially hired at AWA....After of course having been neutered and force-fed at least a thousand gallons of "Koolaide" of some sort or other. How else could anyone EVER even begin to explain a "leader" of theirs obsequiously and cravenly asking of the CEO, on company video, whether or not umm..."he"..."should turn in" supposedly "fellow pilots" for the obviously felony level offense of dual engine taxi? As but an ancient dinosaur very soon out the door, I can't much say I'll miss their "new breed" of supposed "pilots" at all. Most any happy memories of airline flying will certainly pre-date the below sort of idiotic infection/infestation of mindless children...."Look! Mommy bought me my license!"..."But I got this AWAsome Dire Wolf T-shirt all by myself!"/etc.

 
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I've long suspected the PHX "spartans" had company implanted shock collars via some strange surgical/"spiritual" ritual when initially hired at AWA....After of course having been neutered and force-fed at least a thousand gallons of "Koolaide" of some sort or other. How else could anyone EVER even begin to explain a "leader" of theirs obsequiously and cravenly asking of the CEO, on company video, whether or not umm..."he"..."should turn in" supposedly "fellow pilots" for the obviously felony level offense of dual engine taxi? As but an ancient dinosaur very soon out the door, I can't much say I'll miss their "new breed" of supposed "pilots" at all. Most any happy memories of airline flying will certainly pre-date the below sort of idiotic infection/infestation of mindless children...."Look! Mommy bought me my license!"..."But I got this AWAsome Dire Wolf T-shirt all by myself!"/etc.




What you see here is the obvious by-product of a helicopter mommy that adorned her beloved offspring with participation trophies all his pathetic existence.
 
Auxier made out very well. Expect more flash dance videos from him.
Nic4us was crushed by the SLI. Buried deep in the 10k layer. No NIC
No US....


 
West pilots hate the AOL idiots that crushed their careers, they had the NIC and turned it down at Wye River.




All those stupid videos will be the west pilots legacy forever.
 
700 UW is the biggest gasbag of all posters. His lectures on the finality of the Nicolau Award are classic.

CLT Rat was always spot on.


700UW was put in the cornfield for a period of time but that time has supposedly expired and the Mods have still not let him back on yet.

So no he's not off licking his wounds.

Just wanted to clarify since the man does not have the ability to defend himself.
 
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