Another good sign

[insp89]

Not quite! It's more a matter of making sure you get what you pay for. Any company needs to understand that when you have an outsource provider of ANY service it is in their best interest to maintain the lowest level of Cost (performance usually suffers) as possible and still retain the business.

That's why hiring three folks to ensure compliance is critical.

Bobby, Seems I have you at a disadvantage.

I see what goes on every day.

This company is STILL bloated with management types that have jobs CREATED for them, just to keep them on the payroll.

If the company intends on creating these new management positions, Fine and Dandy. Just give the jobs to management personell that are already on the payroll.

There is no need to hire for these positions.

 

[insp89]

Well I think (Hope) you'll see some of that change over time. MPA can only protect his "posse" as long as they perform. The business climate won't allow for the level of "padding" that went on in the past, Union or Management. Time & economics will cure the issue.

I would like to think there will be changes made.

This is one of many areas that the bankrupcy laws need to be overhauled.

While contract personell were required to take HUGE pay and benefit cuts, [38% is not all that uncommon],

Management personell were required very little [if any]pay and benefit cuts..

And people wonder why it is so difficult to get everyone to pull together as a team.

 

[john john]

Well I think (Hope) you'll see some of that change over time. MPA can only protect his "posse" as long as they perform. The business climate won't allow for the level of "padding" that went on in the past, Union or Management. Time & economics will cure the issue.

Management protects & pads there own

 

[BrutallyHonest]

And Born Loser has it right...this will just create more none essential positions..SOS

Hey homie, he wasnt born a loser! He was the smartest loser, but not anymore!

 

[EricLv2Fish]

Management protects & pads there own

John, take a look around...do you see more management or less management? There has been a 30% reduction in management. The company realizes aircraft appearance is in need of attention. Was throwing three managers at the problem the solution? Dunno...but as always time will tell.

Well I think (Hope) you'll see some of that change over time. MPA can only protect his "posse" as long as they perform. The business climate won't allow for the level of "padding" that went on in the past, Union or Management. Time & economics will cure the issue.

I agree with you Bob. I'm quite sure the new managment team will not tolerate "padding". Contrary to what some people believe there has already been a large reduction in management and there will be more as the merger continues forward.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

John, take a look around...do you see more management or less management? There has been a 30% reduction in management. The company realizes aircraft appearance is in need of attention. Was throwing three managers at the problem the solution? Dunno...but as always time will tell.

Not totally sure that the verbalized 30% reduction in management is realized yet........still too much restructuring to do yet.

Taken from the weekly FAQ:
Q. Why are we spending money making the planes look new and shiny on the outside while neglecting the dismal condition of our cabin interiors?
A. This is a great question and, of course, we know that our customers remember the inside of our airplanes, too. The truth is we’re not neglecting our interiors at all. We’re taking two measures to improve the appearance of our interiors and to make them consistent among all of our aircraft. First, we’re determining the standards for cleaning fleet-wide. We need to make sure we have the same quality expectations for every aircraft, no matter the type or operating certificate. That is a work in progress and as we get more information, we’ll keep you update as to when improvements will debut. Next, we’re working on finding the right vendor to do the job. We’ve issued a request for proposals (RFP) to vendors and we’re meeting with them this week to determine the best fit for cleaning our aircraft.

On another thread, a poster thought that DP may cut a LOA to bring back the Utility employees.
Maybe he will cut an LOA but really, even if they are able to find a decent contract company to perform the cleaning, who do you think will cost the company less money?? DP has said that the costs need to remain the same. So if they brought back a bunch of utility employees, do you honestly believe that the cost to the company would be the same or even close??
I would like to see all our own maintenance, cleaning, etc. back within the company but I just don't see it from a dollar standpoint.

Only management knows their reasoning behind this.

 

[700UW]

They don't need a LOA to bring back utility, the language says the company MAY outsource line utility.

Why must you drag me into the majority of you're posts Bob?

It is not necessary.

 

[EricLv2Fish]

I think the reason people don't see it is because roughly 40% of 45,000 hourly were furloughed versus 30% of 4,000. Now before 700UW gets on line and posts the exact number and tells me not to let facts get in the way the real point is far more hourly workers were let go in terms of raw numbers and in percentage of total so often it's difficult to remember that

Those numbers are on the East side before the merger. After the merger there will be a reduction of an additional 30 percent of management, with a goal of no furloughs for non-management.

 

[700UW]

They are laying off from INT all ready in revenue accounting.

 

[EricLv2Fish]

They don't need a LOA to bring back utility, the language says the company MAY outsource line utility.

Why must you drag me into the majority of you're posts Bob?

It is not necessary.

Oh lord, I was trying to get away from all the depressing union chatter. Actually 700, Bob was only stating the obvious and it is true...if it concerns union matters there is no doubt you'll want to get the facts straight. Someday we'll have to set up a board party and have a beer so we can all meet each other. The only rule...no work talk...oh and no violence.