AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Claxon]

Wrong.....the history shows we take the first crap deal that comes along and end up with table scraps. If Driver is accurate......this is another first crap deal. To throw 10k at each guy is a monumental slap in the face for the sacrifices we made. If he's even remotely accurate, I know how I'm going to vote ........if I even get to. I agree with Phoenix........there's more on the table and we deserve to see it.

Another doubter! Imagine, another pilot concerned that he gets to be on b scale for another 3 yrs. And pay 200 million to AA pilots pension and he gets 10 k. Bravo!

 

[luvthe9]

That's not an answer. I want your vision. All you have done is bad mouth this thing and Hummel since before it was done. You must have an idea of what will happen if we say no, so lay it out. Here's your time to shine.

Yes, I have been on their case because I knew this would be the outcome, The attorneys both said a NO would send a stong message to Parker, I would like to see that, but we have to many weak sisters here as you know. You would have to stupid to trust this management team after everything they have done to us, do you think they have your best interest at heart, I bet you do. If it was Gary Kelly I would be able to feel a little better about things. I'll look at it but from what I see so far I'm a NO if it comes out vote. Try not to live in fear of the unknown..

 

[Claxon]

I'm waiting 9. What's your vision, or are you waiting for a call back with the answers?

His vision is your career in the toilet again, and you hauling an AA pilot to his vacation home riding your jumpseat telling you how AA saved your career. And then he tells you how much his pension is worth......Then you read about Parker deploying his 30 mill. Platinum chute as your 10k erodes in the next financial downturn as the company wants to reopen your contract for concessions......

 

[luvthe9]

What! An eastern pilot voting the first offer down? This is not supposed to happen. The rest of the group is wetting their pants so they can give the AA pilots the 200 million pension infusion. What do you get? 10k? A pilot actually willing to say no to an attorney who has no skin in the game? This is quite alarming.......

Some guys get it some don't, that 200 mil should be coming our way. I can't wait to get my 6500$. That will make the last 7 years all better.

 

[luvthe9]

His vision is your career in the toilet again, and you hauling an AA pilot to his vacation home riding your jumpseat telling you how AA saved your career. And then he tells you how much his pension is worth......Then you read about Parker deploying his 30 mill. Platinum chute as your 10k erodes in the next financial downturn as the company wants to reopen your contract for concessions......

This is another way to put it but probably accuarate. What do think Pi.

 

[Claxon]

Get ready for the next group of east coast wives to dump their husbands. One stupid contract after another taken. This one is too sad. How do you tell your wife you maintained an AA pilots pension with yours? Let my daddy vote again. No wonder you are the lowest paid year after year! This board is so telling.

 

[Claxon]

TLC is actually talking to the NAC for interviews for their new reality show USAIRWAYS EAST COAST WIVES. The show features the next generation of divorces spawned by weak pilots taking concessions during record earnings. It is extremely telling as the wine swilling ex wives tell all of their husband spineless actions. Very revealing discussions of the pilots submitting to the former wives strap on usage with abandon.

 

[luvthe9]

Thanks for the laugh Claxon, very funny but true.

 

[MyJ4JjobSucks]

I almost hate to bring this up, but from CM's highlights the MOU says will go into this using MB for the SLI. Did anyone at the meeting ask which list USAPA would supply to the arbitrator? Do the west reps and the east reps agree on which list to submit?

Also the 40 million split between 5000 pilots is a major slap in the face. Didn't Wolf and Rocky get about 30 million just for themselves.

 

[N924PS]

May I remind you that we merged once with a west coast carrier and it was DOH. The bottom line, we bought PSA and sold everything and all the East pilots have to show for it is former PSA A330 pilots and flight attendants flying east routes, everything else was garbage and tossed.

Exactly what did we gain now from purchasing this former crap company. We are not allowing history from repeating itself with awa.

As one of the senior PSA Captains told Colodny, Malin, and Schofield when they came to announce the shutdown of the former PSA system:

"Gentlemen, Western Airlines and United have been trying to put PSA out of business for 30 years. You guys were able to do it in 3!"

Don't forget to ask your PI brothers and sisters how they feel about USAir's "cool Northern efficiency".

There are quite a few knuckleheads on this forum, and you are at the top of that list.

And don't forget, without AWA you'd be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dogshit out of Hong Kong...

 

[traderjake]

Ok 9, if you think a seat is worthless then lay out your vision for us without one. If we buy AA in order to get around the CofC, what will we be paid at the time of the merger? Will we stay on LOA 93 until we have single carrier status and then the APA just dictates to us what we get? I don't know, do you? One of my questions.

Good question.

 

[luvthe9]

I almost hate to bring this up, but from CM's highlights the MOU says will go into this using MB for the SLI. Did anyone at the meeting ask which list USAPA would supply to the arbitrator? Do the west reps and the east reps agree on which list to submit?

Also the 40 million split between 5000 pilots is a major slap in the face. Didn't Wolf and Rocky get about 30 million just for themselves.

DOH

 

[traderjake]

The bottom line, we bought PSA and sold everything and all the East pilots have to show for it is former PSA A330 pilots and flight attendants flying east routes, everything else was garbage and tossed.

Exactly what did we gain now from purchasing this former crap company.

Your crap company, USAir, killed Piedmont and PSA and almost killed the jobs of 30,000 people.

USAir killing PSA was the best thing that ever happened for Southwest.

Don't let historical facts influence your opinion

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Get ready for the next group of east coast wives to dump their husbands. One stupid contract after another taken. This one is too sad. How do you tell your wife you maintained an AA pilots pension with yours? Let my daddy vote again. No wonder you are the lowest paid year after year! This board is so telling.

The same way you tell your wife to hold off on any improvements while you try to steamroll the west pilots I guess.

 

[EastCheats]

DOH

Wrong....MB, with the only list the company has accepted.