AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvthe9]

Excuse me? Don't you dare slander our organization.

No I did not mean to slander your outfit, I really am on your side on this one, I guess that was a bad joke, my bad.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

No I did not mean to slander your outfit, I really am on your side on this one, I guess that was a bad joke, my bad.

A 9 year old would make a joke like that.

A grown man who is a creepy stalker and pulls up a person's reservation so they can find out who they are in the real world and try to use that to harass and intimidate is a really pathetic loser. You need to step away from this board, it has consumed you. In the real world, people like you are why there are restraining orders.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Courtney is definately petty but he sure as Hell ain't small!

I don't want to know his real name, it's bad enough to know that there are people as horrible as him in the real world.

 

[Phoenix]

A 9 year old would make a joke like that.

A grown man who is a creepy stalker and pulls up a person's reservation so they can find out who they are in the real world and try to use that to harass and intimidate is a really pathetic loser. You need to step away from this board, it has consumed you. In the real world, people like you are why there are restraining orders.

A mature person would quickly and graciously accept an apology, even an amateurish apology, and move on.

 

[Beancounter]

Maybe he doesn't need us, CoC, or the MOU now either.

Maybe if there's a merger he'd prefer to keep us on our present contracts for a couple years.

That would explan why he asked for so much and offered so little ($10,000).

That way he can say I made you an offer and you turned it down.

Just speculating.

What? Parker manipulate the east? Say it couldn't be so. If that were the case it would be funny if I wasn't tied to them. I can can just see Parker say, "OK fine, I tried," then walk away. Then the east would be sitting there with their collective thumbs up their butts with that typical deer in the headlights look they always end a fiasco with. There are some smart guys over there, it must be painfull for them to watch this kind of stuff first hand.

Bean

 

[HPearlyretiree]

A mature person would quickly and graciously accept an apology, even an amateurish apology, and move on.

I accept his apology for associating my organization with a child rapist, he can't help being an immature jerk. However, identity theft is another matter....or are you USAPA folk only outraged when you pretend it happens to you?

 

[BoeingBoy]

We have never been in a position to negotiate with a frat boy that wants to run the biggest airline in the world.

So what's the NC/NAC been doing for the past 7 years??? I love how the guys holding junk with an 8 high say they'll bluff the guy holding a straight flush. Parker doesn't need you at all - he's got the APA all set to replace USAPA and guess who'll be calling the shots then...

Jim

 

[Move2CLT]

So what's the NC/NAC been doing for the past 7 years??? I love how the guys holding junk with an 8 high say they'll bluff the guy holding a straight flush. Parker doesn't need you at all - he's got the APA all set to replace USAPA and guess who'll be calling the shots then...

Jim

There it is.

 

[Move2CLT]

"OR WHAT"? Moron! They don't need a single Easthole to want any part of this. USTUPID has been and always will be entirely irrelevant to anything regarding an airline. Vote no. Vote no and the only thing you'll get is 6 years until parity and zero dollars. Aren't you the one that quoted the Wilder blog about 50thousand times? Now you think he's a bald faced lying scumbag lawyer...just like Seham...another former hero of yours....what happened? Being told something you don't want to hear again? Do what's in your gut, it will backfire and fail miserably. Unbelievable that you don't have that foresight after SO much failure and idiocy.

Well said.

 

[Move2CLT]

ABSOLUTELY, IF HE WANTS TO SAY HE RUNS THE BIGGEST AIRLINE IN THE COUNTRY HE NEEDS TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER THAN THAT MOU.!!!!!

Or what? You going to throw chicken bones at him?

 

[Move2CLT]

Actually, I have a totally different perspective:

In the negotiations during the second bankruptcy, we reached a point where our advisors told us it gets worse from here. 5 members of the MEC roll called a vote to keep a company offer from going to the membership. We ended up on LOA93 and one of the arrogant bastards had the gall to blame it on the pilot group.

In the arbitration for seniority integration, our advisors and lawyer told us not to go down the path we were choosing. The lawyer told the MEC, you will either win big, or lose big, there is NO middle ground. We ignored them and ended up with the NIC.

Here we are again...same kind of deal. NAC says they will vote for it. Lawyers (2) tell us it would be better to accept it and our paid negotiator says it is as good as it gets. Anything else is a serious risk. He even goes on to say that time is of the essence.

Well, I am not taking a chance with this. We think we can play with the big boys and wave our swords when we like. We've tried that for over 6 years with nothing to show for it...NOTHING.

Enough already.

Driver

One of the better eastie posts in a long while.

 

[cleardirect]

Well 9 are you sitting down?

After reading the MOU document and carefully considering the information. Ready?

I agree with you.

This MOU is a piece of crap. A bad deal for all of us. The language is weak. There are holes the company can drive through. If Parker wants this deal he is going to have to bring a much bigger check book and a lot better protections.

Kill it at the BPR or send it out. I am a no vote on this. We do not need to get caught up in a BK cram down half assed contract.

 

[mrbreeze]

Sorry, CD,

But you have totally lost me. Could you be a little more self centered, as usual, so that I can understand your post? After all, it's all about you and how the world has screwed you over. Nothing but nasty remarks from you for the last few years towards the East pilots who have given up several thousands of dollars to stand their ground, while being ridiculed by the likes of you......just so you could now say that the company offer sucks.

that's pathetic!

breeze

 

[mrbreeze]

Correction.....the East pilots have given up over 100s of thousands of dollars to stand up for what they believe is right.

Your self serving BS is just too weak!

breeze

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Excuse me? Don't you dare slander our organization. If you had any idea the kinds of things our therapists have to deal with you would be sickened. We have been providing care and counseling and a place for kids to live and go to school away from parents that beat, assault and rape them. We give them back a childhood and find them parents that aren't horrible individuals. Don't you dare compare us to Sandusky, after that scandal broke, our people were interviewed on national TV on how to prevent child abuse. We run a 24/7 hotline for people to report abuse.

Apologize, and stop being such a creepy stalker who can't leave an internet argument on an anonymous internet board.

You are a very small, and petty man.

The greatest of all sins is self-righteousness.