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AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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Doug told us it was easy to get around C of C so what's his problem with it, why does he want it so bad? You never give that up!
He needs it bad based on what he offered to give us for it, yeah right.

It's not worth anything to us if he can get around it
 
He needs it bad based on what he offered to give us for it, yeah right.

It's not worth anything to us if he can get around it
So why does he want it so bad? maybe he can't get around it? maybe
leverage?
 
So why does he want it so bad? maybe he can't get around it? maybe
leverage?

Maybe he doesn't want the headache that comes with it when you submit the surviving carrier as AA. Who knows.

Driver...
 
Then I wonder why the PHX reps voted to not send the MOU out to the membership, and when the BPR did vote to, it was unanimous for a recommendation of a no vote, with one PHX abstaining? Or so I heard.
why did the PHX reps vote no? The deal sucks. At least the PHX reps stood up and said so. You east guys are so concerned about voting so there you go.

What are your buddies going to do now? Yes or no?
 
Then I wonder why the PHX reps voted to not send the MOU out to the membership, and when the BPR did vote to, it was unanimous for a recommendation of a no vote, with one PHX abstaining? Or so I heard.

There is a complication for them. Furloughed guys aren't protected. They have 40 furloughed guys in PHX that did not accept recall to the open East jobs. Some did. They want those 40 protected since we have new hires flying and they are still furloughed. Problem is, some West guys DID accept recall to the East and some are on the 190. You can't pay protect guys out west at a higher payrate than their counterparts that accepted recall.

Just what I was told.

Driver...
 
There is a complication for them. Furloughed guys aren't protected. They have 40 furloughed guys in PHX that did not accept recall to the open East jobs. Some did. They want those 40 protected since we have new hires flying and they are still furloughed. Problem is, some West guys DID accept recall to the East and some are on the 190. You can't pay protect guys out west at a higher payrate than their counterparts that accepted recall.

Just what I was told.

Driver...
Boy, if I were one of those 40 I would suck it up big time and come east before it's to late. The entire BPR recommends a no vote, what's that say.
 
CLT easties:

Good luck on your recall attempt. It's time for Crimi to go. Your heckling him during the meeting was noticed.

Great work.

That is one scary dude. I've never met anyone with so much pent up hate. And it leaks out everywhere.

Driver...
 
Boy, if I were one of those 40 I would suck it up big time and come east before it's to late. The entire BPR recommends a no vote, what's that say.

"Plausible deniability"

"We told you so"

"Our hands were tied"

"We forgot our reading glasses"

"Hummel made me do it"
 
So why does he want it so bad?

He's all about not making the same mistakes twice. United said they'd have nothing to do with the scam Parker was attempting with DISGUISING COC. He needs COC, BUT LIKE OUR PENSION, THEY PREFER WE SIMPLY GIVE IT AWAY SINCE WE'RE SO APATHETIC.
 
Your going to recall your PHX reps?
I'd encourage everyone to seriously support a recall to those gutless reps who felt the membership couldn't be trusted with a vote. They should know they have no hand to play, except what Parker gives them out of pity. This BPR is the same braintrust that decided that since they couldn't understand PBS, they should fight it.

A track record of relying on ignorance is worth recalling.

My guess is that the PHX reps went along to give an appearance of solidarity. Suckered again!
 
why did the PHX reps vote no? The deal sucks. At least the PHX reps stood up and said so. You east guys are so concerned about voting so there you go.

What are your buddies going to do now? Yes or no?

Why did the deal "suck" for the PHX reps? And "hint" it was not because of 40 pilots who were stupid enough not to take recall with merger mania in the news. Red Herring.East "yes" votes will soon be flowing. Just watch.Film at eleven. Greeter
 
I guess you all dont care that the AFA and three IAM CBAs have the COC language.
 
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