AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[EastCheats]

Boy, I'm glad I'm not that young this this deal going to turn out bad, the boys are getting the matches and the gas ready.

Matches and gas?

This is how my frog reacts when he realizes he got a bad deal. Beware of the frog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzXM58qR1Es

 

[doh nogo]

Typical West double standard. The furloughed 40 paid ? But the East furloughs were too stupid to find other jobs and brought nothing to the table?

Y'all are a buch of 8 year olds.

Idiot! They were furloughed BECAUSE OF YOU! AFTER the merger. So yes, the east furloughs were too stupid to see the writing on the wall. They were at the bottom for 18 years. More than enough time to figure it out and find a better job. Our 40 paid with their jobs, out of seniority order, so you can take your ball, go home and pout. Just like an 8 year old.

 

[MyJ4JjobSucks]

The current TA contains the language for the min. Fleet count, min. Block hrs. and Nic SLI among other things. This new MOU supercedes that language for min fleet, min block hrs and more. So why would anyone believe the Nic would not be superceded as well? Serious question, not flaim bait.

 

[BLT]

Boy, I'm glad I'm not that young this this deal going to turn out bad, the boys are getting the matches and the gas ready. There is nothing to lose at our age maybe you guys you start calling some of the ancient scabs that worked for AWA and get some advice.

Um...............what?
Its good that a deal is bad, as long as you are not too young?
If you are a certain age there is nothing to lose?
Call ancient scabs that worked for AWA and get some advice?
What advice?
Crimi is a scab. Is he too young? Does he not provide good scab advice?
No LPP's, no COC and no scope!!! Billion $ please.

 

[Barrister]

The current TA contains the language for the min. Fleet count, min. Block hrs. and Nic SLI among other things. This new MOU supercedes that language for min fleet, min block hrs and more. So why would anyone believe the Nic would not be superceded as well? Serious question, not flaim bait.

Points to you man. If the NIC can only take effect in a CBA between EAST AND WEST.......and it looks like their will NEVER be a joint CBA between the two......how do the West boys get their NIC: ANSWER...they don't.

If you Westies ain't worried yet you should be.

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[BLT]

Points to you man. If the NIC can only take effect in a CBA between EAST AND WEST.......and it looks like their will NEVER be a joint CBA between the two......how do the West boys get their NIC: ANSWER...they don't.

If you Westies ain't worried yet you should be.

NICDOA
NPJB

Points to you man. If the NIC can only take effect in a CBA between EAST AND WEST.......and it looks like their will NEVER be a joint CBA between the two......how do the West boys get their NIC: ANSWER...they don't.

If you Westies ain't worried yet you should be.

NICDOA
NPJB

Vote for the MOU and screw the stinking westies out of the NIC. Those rookies don't deserve the nic. They should be super worried about it. Points to you Mr. NICDOA. You hit the hammer on the nail brother!

 

[Metroyet]

Boy, I'm glad I'm not that young this this deal going to turn out bad, the boys are getting the matches and the gas ready. There is nothing to lose at our age maybe you guys you start calling some of the ancient scabs that worked for AWA and get some advice.

What's the matter Courtney? KFC close early tonight?

 

[Move2CLT]

So why would anyone believe the Nic would not be superceded as well? Serious question, not flaim bait.

Because Doug doesn't want the threat of litigation hanging over this deal and neither do the creditors.

 

[Move2CLT]

Points to you man. If the NIC can only take effect in a CBA between EAST AND WEST.......and it looks like their will NEVER be a joint CBA between the two......how do the West boys get their NIC: ANSWER...they don't.

If you Westies ain't worried yet you should be.

NICDOA
NPJB

Boy are you in for a surprise.

 

[Beancounter]

Vote for the MOU and screw the stinking westies out of the NIC. Those rookies don't deserve the nic. They should be super worried about it. Points to you Mr. NICDOA. You hit the hammer on the nail brother!

Brother? Well that describes a lot. I was wondering how y'all could possibly be so darn stupid. You two, Claxon, and MM are all related aren't ya.

Which one's BLT and which one's Barrister?

 

[Beancounter]

Boy are you in for a surprise.

Can you imagine the epic meltdown we're in store for. We'll probably hear the screaming clear over here on the west coast.

Bean

 

[Phoenix]

Points to you man. If the NIC can only take effect in a CBA between EAST AND WEST.......and it looks like their will NEVER be a joint CBA between the two......how do the West boys get their NIC: ANSWER...they don't.

If you Westies ain't worried yet you should be.

NICDOA
NPJB

If the East and West vote on an MOU that says we use MB, if I were a westicl I would argue the MOU is a JCBA that triggers the implementation of NiC, with MB to follow with AA. If I were an east hole i'ld argue the MB language applies to the operational lists, at the time of the vote, superseding all previous agreements. Does anyone really believe the MOU is clear on the issue?

 

[traderjake]

If the East and West vote on an MOU that says we use MB, if I were a westicl I would argue the MOU is a JCBA that triggers the implementation of NiC, with MB to follow with AA. If I were an east hole i'ld argue the MB language applies to the operational lists, at the time of the vote, superseding all previous agreements. Does anyone really believe the MOU is clear on the issue?

What are the odds that an arbitration panel is going to disregard a previous arbitrator's ruling (when that ruling exists in contract language)?

 

[BoeingBoy]

There isn't an option of not using M-B if there's a merger ... it's the law of the land and doesn't require inclusion in the MOU.

The question is who is merging? Is it three separate companies called East, West, and AMR? Or is it two companies called US and AMR? Of course, the answer is obvious - US and AMR would be merging. Each respective company has a single settled seniority list and those two accepted seniority lists would be merged according to M-B.

Of course, the East fantasy is that no single list has been accepted by US, that the US/HP merger is somehow subject to M-B although it happened well before passage of M-B, and that three lists will be subject to M-B.

Sort of an offshoot of the East fantasy is Barrister's fantasy that a joint contract must cover only East and West to trigger use of the Nic although nothing in the East/West TA specifies that.

Jim

 

[A320 Driver]

I suppose it was only a matter of time before the posts turned back to the NIC.