AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvthe9]

Well now the BPR is told to expect a personal individual to each member from Scotty himself, I wonder what that could be about?

 

[Barrister]

There is however the option under MB of a negotiated settlement of seniority between usapa and the APA. It could never reach arbitration, and that is what concerns me the most.

Who do you think theTA is between you moron APA, AMR and US Aiways?? PS who ya gonna sue in a DFR.....USAPA will be gone in 18 months if not sooner.

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Barrister]

There is however the option under MB of a negotiated settlement of seniority between usapa and the APA. It could never reach arbitration, and that is what concerns me the most.

Who do you think theTA is between you moron APA, AMR and US Aiways?? PS who ya gonna sue in a DFR.....USAPA will be gone in 18 months if not sooner.

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Barrister]

Who do you think theTA is between you moron APA, AMR and US Aiways?? PS who ya gonna sue in a DFR.....USAPA will be gone in 18 months if not sooner.

NICDOA
NPJB

Sorry NIC4 that was not 4 u it was for the all seeing all knowiing!!

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Barrister]

Absolutey. As you say, M-B contains a process leading to arbitration if necessary, not arbitration as the only step. That brings up the other points - why would a merger prior to M-B be included in a US/AA merger as though it hadn't already happened and what justification is there for claiming that three companies (East, West and AMR) are merging (if a US/AMR merger happens)?

Jim

Senility is setting in with you. Lets try it again....NIC WAS NEVER WAS PART OF A CBA...repeat it real slow......then try this one.....IT WAS NEVER RATIFIED IN A JOINT VOTE BETWEEN EAST AND WEST........do this until you get it!!!!

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Barrister]

If the East and West vote on an MOU that says we use MB, if I were a westicl I would argue the MOU is a JCBA that triggers the implementation of NiC, with MB to follow with AA. If I were an east hole i'ld argue the MB language applies to the operational lists, at the time of the vote, superseding all previous agreements. Does anyone really believe the MOU is clear on the issue?

No but if there is a POR with U then expect a new round of papework to descending on Silver....nothing prevents additional filings if things change...more ammo for her to rule that it is now a threeway......why..... NIC IS NOT PART OF A CBA!!!!

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Barrister]

What are the odds that an arbitration panel is going to disregard a previous arbitrator's ruling (when that ruling exists in contract language)?

Dan are you reeeeellllyyyy that stupid. That question will be asnswered well before it gets in front of a MB panel. Are you really that dumb??? Please invite me to your next poker get together.....Pot limit I hope!!

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Barrister]

Brother? Well that describes a lot. I was wondering how y'all could possibly be so darn stupid. You two, Claxon, and MM are all related aren't ya.

Which one's BLT and which one's Barrister?

Is there a legal argument in there somewhere?...must have missed it!!!
LMAO

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[BoeingBoy]

Senility is setting in with you. Lets try it again....NIC WAS NEVER WAS PART OF A CBA...repeat it real slow......then try this one.....IT WAS NEVER RATIFIED IN A JOINT VOTE BETWEEN EAST AND WEST........do this until you get it!!!!

So?

You're trying to say that there must be a joint contract that only covers east and west before the Nic can go into effect. Wrong, oh feeble minded one. All it has to do is include east and west, such as a joint contract with the AA pilots.

Does idiocy run in your family?

Jim

 

[luvthe9]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-24/rochelle-on-hawker-madoff-us-airways-amr-audio.html Is there an agreement between us we don't know about. Boy, management must really want this bad.

 

[Barrister]

So?

You're trying to say that there must be a joint contract that only covers east and west before the Nic can go into effect. Wrong, oh feeble minded one. All it has to do is include east and west, such as a joint contract with the AA pilots.

Does idiocy run in your family?

Jim

To quote you idiot boy...."Prove It" Show me the language.

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[BoeingBoy]

Surely you have the TA language, assuming that that's the language you're talking about. With idiots it's hard to read minds...

"negotiation of a single agreement"

Do you see "between only US and America West pilots and the Airline Parties" in there?

Jim

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Surely you have the TA language, assuming that that's the language you're talking about. With idiots it's hard to read minds...

"negotiation of a single agreement"

Do you see "between only US and America West pilots and the Airline Parties" in there?

Jim

To quote you idiot boy...."Prove It" Show me the language.

NICDOA
NPJB

Well, I am not seeing any "OPERATIONAL PILOT INTEGRATION" or USAPA waving their rights under the RLA, Duel ratification, besides what if Horton emerges stand alone and pieces off the WEST! NICDOA

 

[MyJ4JjobSucks]

/Surely you have the TA language, assuming that that's the language you're talking about. With idiots it's hard to read minds...

"negotiation of a single agreement"

Do you see "between only US and America West pilots and the Airline Parties" in there?

Jim/

This is sort of my point. All or many of the other items in the current TA are being changed or superseded by this MOU. So why would the SLI language not be superseded as well when the MOU specifically states we would use MB.
I'm not necessarily saying the Nic won't be used, I just don't see the language in the MOU saying it will be used. I'm surprised with all the angst about the Nic list that it wasn't asked at the BPR meeting.

 

[Move2CLT]

Well now the BPR is told to expect a personal individual to each member from Scotty himself, I wonder what that could be about?

Man you're out of touch.