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AUG/SEPT 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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Sadly...that perfectly sums up much around here. (Note to self: Try the cat food scam. Frikkin' dogs have been ruined by far more pricey treats over the years.)

Yes, ruined by scams. Gullible.

Now we have people fearing that we have to buy our way to the table after the company walks away and gets silent (we are at the table, and have been for YEARS. Mgt occasionally comes by to say hi, like I do to my dog, who is always at the table, waiting for me to engage). Giving DUI a big "yes" will certainly assure they never return to the table, and they remain silent. Giving them a "no" will assure they will return to talk as soon as they need something from us.
 
Your point's taken, but why should anyone become consumed with any overwhelming, great sense of urgency to just desperately grab onto whatever first comes around the corner, especially containing considerable concessions? It's not as if this merger is happening today, tomorrow, next week/etc.

Because you're on LOA93! And, FYI, this merger may as well have already happened.

We are no longer able to negotiate with the company. The machine is in motion and we now sit and wait. Question you have to ask yourself is do you sit and wait under LOA93 or the MOU? If you vote it down, we sit under status quo until APA finishes the work on their own.

Two more years? You really want that?
 
Like I said boys, it's coming and Doug just pulled out his shotgun.

Drop you're CoC relic of the past and move on with this merger. As you can see, Parker is making it happen.



New group of ‘substantial creditors’ emerges in AMR bankruptcy case

By tmaxon
tmaxon@dallasnews.com
10:44 am on August 29, 2012 | Permalink

We have a new group operating in the AMR/American Airlines bankruptcy case: The Ad Hoc Group of AMR Corp. Creditors. They are prepared to offer equity and financing, according to a filing Wednesday.
AMR filed a motion to approve a fee letter to pay the group’s expenses Wednesday. Here’s how the group is described in the filing (we separated a long paragraph into several):
“In April, 2012, a group of substantial creditors of the Debtors formed the Ad Hoc Group of AMR Corporation Creditors. …
“The Group has expressed an interest in participating in the formulation of a plan of reorganization and, in connection therewith, potentially providing for equity and other financings, if any, that may be required to support American’s business plan and the consummation of a chapter 11 plan or plans (collectively, the “Commitments&rdquo😉.
“The Group is prepared to engage in negotiations with the Debtors concerning a plan or plans and such Commitments, subject to appropriate due diligence. In connection with such negotiations, the Debtors will collaborate with the UCC.”
The UCC is the nine-member unsecured creditors committee. the official group to represent the interests of creditors.
The filing further states:
“American’s primary objective in these chapter 11 cases is to formulate, confirm, and consummate a consensual chapter 11 plan or plans. In furtherance of American’s efforts to secure both broad creditor support and the financing necessary to ensure successful confirmation and consummation, American has engaged with the UCC and certain other constituencies in the plan development process, including the Group.
“Upon information and belief, the Group and members thereof represent a substantial and diverse group of creditors of American. The Group and certain of its members have expressed interest in participating in and/or providing Commitments in support of a plan proposal and the confirmation process.”
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Like I said boys, it's coming and Doug just pulled out his shotgun.

Sorry. I'm simply unable to share your apparent need to immediately cringe in fear and awe......If actually armed with a shotgun...methinks any immediate concerns should be for his feet and any/all helpless bystanders within range.

"Drop you're CoC relic of the past and move on with this merger." Why? What's in it for us? Quite frankly; making you happy isn't really high up on my list of reasonable concerns 😉
 
Yeah, I'm sure you got an unbiased opinion from DiOrio. Why didn't you call Collelo? He is the NAC chairman. He is the one with first hand knowledge. No, you called the guy you knew would tell you what you wanted to hear...so you could continue your fight against the "mgmt clowns".

Lastly, if I ever "blast you", you'll damn sure know it. I was simply giving an explaination of my position. But that is not what you wanted to hear either. Whatever...

Driver...


Wrong again, my beef with you is you trying to persuade guys how to vote because you want a raise before punching out. How long have you been in the left seat? Just curious. Want to compare w2s?. I saw colleo in phl so didn't need to call him, but he and Paul are on the same page
 
You can be damn sure that if Parker did anything for any pilot it was not an intentional act of kindness.


Bob

I don't know if Parker was here yet or not...but we had an MEC chairman get in a nasty car crash in Mexico and the company hired a med evac learjet to go and get him out.

Not sure what happened to that crew in RIO...but it really did surprise me that the company did not even know about it.
 
Westies we miss you movie makers! Come on make us some videos!
Hate

I hear there is a scab on the east crying to management about internet content that makes the scab union appear as......um...scabs.

Would that be you Hate?
 
I don't know if Parker was here yet or not...but we had an MEC chairman get in a nasty car crash in Mexico and the company hired a med evac learjet to go and get him out.

Not sure what happened to that crew in RIO...but it really did surprise me that the company did not even know about it.

ALPA MEC Chair? Company learjet..

Run of the mill crew dogs in Rio? Company did not even know about it...

Did you intend to make a point, or are you still unaware of the point you made?
 
Sadly...that perfectly sums up much around here. (Note to self: Try the cat food scam. Frikkin' dogs have been ruined by far more pricey treats over the years.)



Feeding Dog Food to Cats and Cat Food to Dogs

By Dr. Pascale Pibot, Royal Canin Research Center
2. Why cat food is not suitable for a dog?
• It is possible to feed a small dog with cat food. But we must pay attention to several points.
• On an economical point of view it is more expensive, as cat foods are higher in animal protein and fat, and packed in smaller bags, the price is greater.
• The energy density of cat food is generally higher than dog foods. This can be a problem for dogs that have a tendency to be overweight.
• Cat food is naturally acidified to prevent struvite precipitation in the urinary tract; puppies must not eat acidified diets, because they can potentially disturb skeletal growth.

Geesh, now your looking to penalize your dog through your bad choices! Where does it end!
 
I hear there is a scab on the east crying to management about internet content that makes the scab union appear as......um...scabs.

Would that be you Hate?

Don't flatter yourself, Nic. Your message posts don't count as "internet content". :lol:
 
ALPA MEC Chair? Company learjet..

Run of the mill crew dogs in Rio? Company did not even know about it...

Did you intend to make a point, or are you still unaware of the point you made?

That's the problem with old Phoenix - Reading comprehension!! Now we're on our way to a solution!
 
Geesh, now your looking to penalize your dog through your bad choices! Where does it end!

The home's animals may well eat more steak than yourself. Perhaps it's among your "bad choices" to not have been born with both intelligence and paws 😉
 
I don't know if Parker was here yet or not...but we had an MEC chairman get in a nasty car crash in Mexico and the company hired a med evac learjet to go and get him out.

Not sure what happened to that crew in RIO...but it really did surprise me that the company did not even know about it.

He had to get him as he was bought and paid for,there was much more work to be done for Franke Air. Pensions to take, international scabbing operations to man, pay scales to take down.
 
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