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Hanson from the Northeast local..he has alot of areas..but that's his position.
I emailed him of upcoming changes that NEED to be in the new contract , a copy was also sent to Velveteen..

Do u think they will really listen?

I dont .
Why will she have to listen? You have a union that has never showed you its constitution. The airline passenger service association is your union, not the CWA or IBT. Both the CWA and IBT hide under the airline passenger service associations cloak. This way they can control negotiations, negotiations team, and decide if you get to vote on your contract. Ever since this scam organization was created and automatically recognized by US AIRWAYS, NO employee has EVER voted on ANY contract....including the one you have now.

Nothing is going to change unless you dump that independent union that the IBT and CWA are hiding behind.
 
Why will she have to listen? You have a union that has never showed you its constitution. The airline passenger service association is your union, not the CWA or IBT. Both the CWA and IBT hide under the airline passenger service associations cloak. This way they can control negotiations, negotiations team, and decide if you get to vote on your contract. Ever since this scam organization was created and automatically recognized by US AIRWAYS, NO employee has EVER voted on ANY contract....including the one you have now.

Nothing is going to change unless you dump that independent union that the IBT and CWA are hiding behind.
Here here!!!

My thoughts ALL ALONG~

CWA IS A WASTE OF our hard earned ,no kidding pay$$$..

Paleese let us De-Certify them , Im shopping for another one..
 
Here here!!!

My thoughts ALL ALONG~

CWA IS A WASTE OF our hard earned ,no kidding pay$$$..

Paleese let us De-Certify them , Im shopping for another one..
Teamsters have a no raid with the association so you can count them out. Plus why would they want to ruin a good thing. Check out their LM1 they filed with the Labor Department, Jimmy Hoffa is the prez of it. It is a independent association so you ought to contact other AFLCIO unions. The TWU will want nothing to do with it since they have a no raid with the IBT.
The IAM has a no raid with the CWA so that would leave them out unless things go sour elsewhere.

Seham and Seham might be another possibility if you want to align with the pilots. The worst thing you can do is keep a union that refuses to allow you to vote on your contracts. Therefore, if you go with another union you should make sure it is a democratic one.
 
No thanks on the IAM...Another bunch of $$$ thieves!

Why is it risky?

If you petition to have another union in place..

You cant be serious about the CWA?

THEY R A JOKE at this point~

I think you might want to do a little more research on the IAM. I know the district I fall under had a change in leadership from top to bottom a couple years ago.
Besides I do believe Southwest C/S is IAM and they top out somewhere around 26 -27 dollars an hour plus like myself they have a PENSION and a company 401k match.
don't seem like to bad from that standpoint. Plus to comment on the other poster in the IAM you VOTE on EVERYTHING. from Contracts , Leadership (local and District) , Bylaw changes
H*ll it seems we are always voting on something which is the way it should be. I remember back when I was a teamster . Vince would come down and TELL us what we were getting and that was that
I pay union dues so I feel I should have the RIGHT to VOTE on MY contract. just my 2 cents thanks for listening
 
Here here!!!

My thoughts ALL ALONG~

CWA IS A WASTE OF our hard earned ,no kidding pay$$$..

Paleese let us De-Certify them , Im shopping for another one..
A little birdy told me that you may be in luck but a few things have to play out.
 
Why will she have to listen? You have a union that has never showed you its constitution. The airline passenger service association is your union, not the CWA or IBT. Both the CWA and IBT hide under the airline passenger service associations cloak. This way they can control negotiations, negotiations team, and decide if you get to vote on your contract. Ever since this scam organization was created and automatically recognized by US AIRWAYS, NO employee has EVER voted on ANY contract....including the one you have now.

Nothing is going to change unless you dump that independent union that the IBT and CWA are hiding behind.

What is this Airline Passenger Service Associations you speak of? I have never heard of it. How do we dump it?
 
What is this Airline Passenger Service Associations you speak of? I have never heard of it. How do we dump it?
The airline passenger service association is the front union that was created by the IBT and the CWA so that the customer service workers would berestricted from voting on any contracts. US AIRWAYS, of course, had NO PROBLEM voluntarily recognizing this front union because the front union promised a ready made sweetheart contract delivered to US AIRWAYS within 30 days after the voluntary recognition. The icing on the cake was that the organization promised that not one single member of this front union would be able to vote on it, thereby guaranteeing US AIRWAYS that the sweetheart contract would be accepted. Jimmy Hoffa went to the Labor department and signed on as the organizations President and you can read the scanned LM1 online. A copy of the NMB's determination that US AIRWAYS voluntarily recognized this front union is attached here

Because this organization has no constitution, it is unlikely that those held captive under it will ever vote on a contract. In the meantime, both the IBT and the CWA continue to collect your dues with little to no representation offered.

The only action you have is to get rid of this front union but you would have to find another union to do this. Hint: Go with a democratic union because if you can't vote out officers or you can't vote on contracts then what good is a union?

The IAM is very democratic and the ramp cleaned up all the deadwood within and seems positioned for negotiations next year but I am unconvinved that the IAM would raid the front union since it has a relationship with the CWA. However, if that relationship breaks down at United airlines maybe that would change.

The Janitor
 
The only action you have is to get rid of this front union but you would have to find another union to do this. Hint: Go with a democratic union because if you can't vote out officers or you can't vote on contracts then what good is a union?

The Janitor
SEIU anyone? Just asking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Employees_International_Union
 
The airline passenger service association is the front union that was created by the IBT and the CWA so that the customer service workers would berestricted from voting on any contracts. The Janitor
So all passenger service agents at USAirways will not get to vote on any future contracts?
The association not the members will vote on all passenger service contracts?
 
US AIRWAYS, of course, had NO PROBLEM voluntarily recognizing this front union because the front union promised a ready made sweetheart contract delivered to US AIRWAYS .
I know IAM fleet Service came out with a sweetheart contract two years later ……..RIGHT
 
I think you might want to do a little more research on the IAM. I know the district I fall under had a change in leadership from top to bottom a couple years ago.
Besides I do believe Southwest C/S is IAM and they top out somewhere around 26 -27 dollars an hour plus like myself they have a PENSION and a company 401k match.
don't seem like to bad from that standpoint. Plus to comment on the other poster in the IAM you VOTE on EVERYTHING. from Contracts , Leadership (local and District) , Bylaw changes
H*ll it seems we are always voting on something which is the way it should be. I remember back when I was a teamster . Vince would come down and TELL us what we were getting and that was that
I pay union dues so I feel I should have the RIGHT to VOTE on MY contract. just my 2 cents thanks for listening
I think you might want to do a little more research on the TWU. Southwest RAMP is TWU and they top out somewhere around 26 -27 dollars an hour plus have a better PENSION and company 401k match.
 
The airline passenger service association is the front union that was created by the IBT and the CWA so that the customer service workers would berestricted from voting on any contracts. The Janitor
Here are some CWA updates on the alliance






A Strong Alliance to Maintain Our Passenger Service Careers
9-19-2005
An alliance between CWA at US Airways, and Teamsters at America West, is best for the job security, standard of living and working conditions of passenger service employees at both airlines.
The lack of an alliance would be dangerous for agents at both airlines...
With the airline industry in chaos, and employees suffering cuts at every airline, agents at US Airways and America West cannot afford an antagonistic conflict against each other that would risk our salaries, our protections and our benefits.
We have worked out an alliance which will preserve the US Airways agents' CWA contract, their CWA locals and their access to information and participation in their union.
The alliance (called Association of Airline Passenger Service Employees IBT + CWA) will allow us to remain CWA members while the America West employees remain Teamster members. US Airways agents will remain protected by the terms and conditions of their CWA contract.
In the future, the goal is to bring the AWA salaries and conditions up to the CWA contract level, and to improve aspects of the CWA contract (for example: activate our "snap backs" sooner for holidays, vacation, sickdays, premiums, etc.). We eventually want a single, improved contract protecting the entire passenger service group.
When that future, single, contract is achieved, the Teamster agents in eastern stations would be CWA-represented. The CWA agents in western stations would be Teamster-represented. The Alliance will allow us to work in a concerted effort to resolve major contract issues that would affect all members, regardless of location. But that is in the future. For now US Airways agents, East and West, remain protected by their CWA contract.
Those are big goals and we can accomplish them by working together for a united passenger service group.
For the good of our careers, for the good of our new airline, it makes sense to form an alliance between the two work groups that maintains their current representation and contract (US Airways/CWA) and status quo conditions (AWA/Teamsters).
For that reason we recommend and request that you approve this Alliance when you receive your ballot and Alliance proposal in the mail.
Thank You,
CWA US Airways Local Presidents

John Hanson, Local 1171
Pam Terry, Local 2000
Becky Gerald, Local 3640
Jose Gomez, Local 3641
John Tyler, Local 3140
Betty Grove, Local 4404
Chris Fox, Local 13302
Robert Megel, Local 13301 (acting)
US Airways CWA’ers have voted overwhelmingly for the proposed alliance…
10/13/2005
After much discussion and debate, and following the recommendations of the CWA Local President’s, the US Airways passenger service employees have voted by a margin of 84% YES to 16% NO in favor of the proposed passenger service alliance to jointly represent the US Airways and America West agents.
The CWA Local Officers and Staff want to thank all who voted and participated in the discussions prior to this vote.
We also want to assure all those who took the time to write suggestions and messages on their ballots that we will compile those messages and make them available to all local officers and staff.
The ballots were picked up from the US Post office in DC today and counted by the local presidents. The local presidents and staff will continue meeting today to discuss strategy going forward. We’ll keep you posted on these discussions and on any meetings with management (none scheduled this week - probably next week).
CWA’ers participating in today’s strategy discussion were CWA President Larry Cohen, local officers and representatives Robert Megel (13301), Sean Linehan and Pam Terry (2252), Jose Gomez (3641), Chris Fox (13302), John Hanson (1171), Vonda Hardy (3640), AFA-CWA Collective Bargaining Manager Clare Burt, CWA attorney Nick Manicone, and CWA staff Velvet Hawthorne and Rick Braswell.
Again, thanks for your participation in this important vote.
CWA Local Officers and Staff




Here is the CWA update on the last contact you voted on. It is the one we have NOW minus the snap backs and transitions agreement and express pay increases. The amendable date it the same





Agents Approve Contract at US Airways
12-23-04
Washington, D.C. - US Airways passenger service agents, members of the Communications Workers of America, have ratified changes to their contract with US Airways to help the troubled airline as it seeks to emerge from bankruptcy.
The settlement was approved by a 60 percent vote in an Internet and telephone ratification process under the aegis of the American Arbitration Association. The contract, covering about 6,000 active agents, is amendable beginning Jan. 1, 2012.
The bargaining committee of local union presidents recommended approval of the settlement, given the carrier's bankruptcy status and the past decision of the bankruptcy judge to allow US Airways to temporarily cut workers' wages by 21 percent and implement further benefit cuts while negotiations continued.
Those cuts will end as the new ratified agreement takes effect on Jan. 1.
This agreement reduces average wages by 12. 9 percent, an "improvement" over the 34 percent wage cut US Airways management was demanding in earlier bargaining.
For More Information:
Jeff Miller or Candice Johnson
CWA Communications,
202-434-1168
 
I think you might want to do a little more research on the TWU. Southwest RAMP is TWU and they top out somewhere around 26 -27 dollars an hour plus have a better PENSION and company 401k match.

I do believe this is the C/S thread correct. I was referring to Southwest C/S reservations contract. I know the ramp is twu but thats a different thread now isn't it
 

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