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Former TWA flight attendant Dixie Daniels came in third, landing a seat on the domestic negotiating committee.

Not bad for a group that currently has fewer than 100 FA's on the line!

MK
 
Anybody with a name like "Dixie Daniels" should be running for more than negotiating commitee. :lol:
 
Former TWA flight attendant Dixie Daniels came in third, landing a seat on the domestic negotiating committee.

Not bad for a group that currently has fewer than 100 FA's on the line!

MK
What do you mean by that??? Arn't we all one now???
I'm sure she'll bring all her experience to the up coming negotiations....
We need a good mix as this will be a real fight with AA...
Dig your heals in because it's not going to be fun...
 
What do you mean by that??? Arn't we all one now???


Oh I'll just pass this one by....

& One thing fo sho - this negotiation process should be a doozy, Love that name though.. DIXIE, get yo gun!!!
She should bring very valuable knowledge to that table, and it is a good thing b/c ya'll are gonna need it.
 
Former TWA flight attendant Dixie Daniels came in third, landing a seat on the domestic negotiating committee.

Not bad for a group that currently has fewer than 100 FA's on the line!

MK


Let's see if she comes through with all the expertise she's promised.
 
What do you mean by that??? Arn't we all one now???
Yeah, we're one. In fact, I'm writing this from a DFW hotel in the middle of recall training. But I don't expect the various factions to forget their roots. I'm AA, but I'm former TWA. I'll never let go of that.

I'm sure she'll bring all her experience to the up coming negotiations....
We need a good mix as this will be a real fight with AA...
Dig your heals in because it's not going to be fun...
I'll agree with that. We have a hell of a fight ahead of us, and I feel better with Dixie on our side.

And by "our" I mean you and me.

MK
 
Let's see if she comes through with all the expertise she's promised.
Let's not lose track of the point here.

When we were acquired, we numbered about 4400, or about 20% of the AA workforce. We were stapled, and essentially thrown aside as furlough fodder. Four years later, after half of us had died or retired, we managed to get one of our own into a position that could make a difference.

We're proud of that. We did that because we have learned the hard way what unionism is all about. Look at the percentages of who bothered to vote, and I think you'll see what we mean. Dixie's election will benefit all of us.

MK
 
Let's see if she comes through with all the expertise she's promised.


She is the #3. Much will depend on the "powers that be". If they will listen to new and possibly innovative ideas, Dixie will make a difference. If the attituide is "we've AALWAYS done it this way", then the end result will be the same old, same old and even God couldn't make a difference. From my observations this is a group that is not open to new ideas no matter how beneficial to the quality of life of the work force. Just look at the exc hange on allowing longer, no more than 2 leg turns. Doesn't mean ALL have to be that way, just the option. And of course, much will depend on AA. If they want a timely labor agreement, then they need to bargain in good faith. That mean not trying to get blood for no cost or cost neutral qualituy of life contractual enhancements. Just because something may make life better doesn't mean it needs to have a price attached. GOOD FAITH.

Dixie is smart, a long time unionist, and is good at closing loopholes in conctratual writing. Sounds like a good fit.
 
Let's not lose track of the point here.

When we were acquired, we numbered about 4400, or about 20% of the AA workforce. We were stapled, and essentially thrown aside as furlough fodder. Four years later, after half of us had died or retired, we managed to get one of our own into a position that could make a difference.

We're proud of that. We did that because we have learned the hard way what unionism is all about. Look at the percentages of who bothered to vote, and I think you'll see what we mean. Dixie's election will benefit all of us.

MK
Just remember one thing and think what you may but APFA is the union that represents the worlds largest f/a workforce. It's not some small little union that has no direction and who is waiting for someone to come in and save it... It's got it's s*** together ... it works for me ...
Also ... when AA buys another airline, you'll know that your senority will be protected and the acquired airline f/as will be stapled to the bottom. Or maybe
Dixie will make things change and they will be filtered in... maybe ahead of you and I... it could happen !!!
 
I believe that AFA represents the largest group of f/a's. I think you are wrong on that point.
 
Just remember one thing and think what you may but APFA is the union that represents the worlds largest f/a workforce. It's not some small little union that has no direction and who is waiting for someone to come in and save it... It's got it's s*** together ... it works for me ...
Also ... when AA buys another airline, you'll know that your senority will be protected and the acquired airline f/as will be stapled to the bottom. Or maybe
Dixie will make things change and they will be filtered in... maybe ahead of you and I... it could happen !!!


Don't try and make problems where ther are none. Dixie is a second alternate. She is a good voice for the junior f/as but has the experience of a senior f/a. What a great combination. As to the APFA having its **** together? How many ways can you spell RPA? You had better hope that IF there is another AA acquisition, AA isn't on the wrong end of the bk card. Your "ironclad" SCOPE was patterened after our "ironclad" SCOPE. It is what it is. And knowing the acquired, I can tell you they would rather see honest slotting than across the board staple. The worlds largest f/a workforce has dwindled from 24000 to 18000 thanks to the APFA. Now thats impressive.
 
Just remember one thing and think what you may but APFA is the union that represents the worlds largest f/a workforce. It's not some small little union that has no direction and who is waiting for someone to come in and save it... It's got it's s*** together ... it works for me ...
Also ... when AA buys another airline, you'll know that your senority will be protected and the acquired airline f/as will be stapled to the bottom. Or maybe
Dixie will make things change and they will be filtered in... maybe ahead of you and I... it could happen !!!


I don't know how old you are, but I'd guess you're on the young side of middle age. If you were old enough to remember the "old days", you wouldn't be so quick to throw around the terms Union and APFA in the same paragraph. A REAL Union fights for it's members and doesn't look for bodies to pad a membership list so that some members can step on other's backs to get what they want.

It's probably hard for you to believe but a REAL Union takes care of ALL it's dues payers, and protects them from the predatory practices that seem so pervasive in Management....then and now. Then, when as Flight Attendants (in our - TWA's - case Hostesses) we couldn't have children, had to sign out in an out-of-town book when we were on our way home and were REQUIRED to be at the signed for number during our days off. When Supervisors were free to slap our bottoms to see if we were wearing the required girdle. When they carried nail polish color charts and if yours happened to be frosted you could count on a visit to the Hangar and a "discussion" with your supervisor. When, if you'd call in sick, you'd get a daily check-in call from the Office just to see "how things were going".

When we could be put on "tan check". And, when the inevitable letter came sometime during our career that accused us of something, a REAL Union came with us into that meeting and saved our neck.

REAL Unions fought for and won all the things you now enjoy. You no longer have to worry about indiscriminate firing or harrassment or a Company that uses and then discards you because you're past a certain age or a certain weight.

Instead, Maark 767, your "Union" (and I use that term quite loosely) couldn't wait to put us under the membership umbrella - not to protect us and represent us and defend us from people such as yourself (who seems to gleefully hope that another airline acquired gives the existing membership that much more insulation), but so they could squeeze every last dime from us in Union dues before discarding us when we were no longer convenient. A REAL Union would have gone toe to toe with American Airlines when it was apparent that over 4,000 members - note I say members - were going to be kicked out the door with nothing but their dignity. You might want to take a look in the mirror and note that there are grand things about honor, and promises and doing the right thing.

You might also note that the people you at APFA and AA tried to discard, have more pride and dignity, even now, than you apparently have neglected to obtain in your lifetime.
 
Just remember one thing and think what you may but APFA is the union that represents the worlds largest f/a workforce. It's not some small little union that has no direction and who is waiting for someone to come in and save it... It's got it's s*** together ... it works for me ...
Also ... when AA buys another airline, you'll know that your senority will be protected and the acquired airline f/as will be stapled to the bottom. Or maybe
Dixie will make things change and they will be filtered in... maybe ahead of you and I... it could happen !!!


One small correction, APFA does NOT represent the worlds largest flight attendant workforce. I believe UAL has the worlds largest flight attendant workforce, and the AFA represents the MOST flight attendants. AMR won't be buying anyone, the dirty work has been done and doubt very seriously it would ever be allowed to happen again. Just think, AMR could be the one to be purchased, and no DOH policy in place .. CLICK CLICK :shock: :shock:
 

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