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He is right that I was almost exclusively ABR other than a few late night bag room lines. Ahhhh, us bad ABR people! He actually did make a rather reasonable point that I was self absorbed. I have to guard against all of my faults and much of what is incorporated in the Occupy 141 platform is beneficial not only to the member but also helps protect the officers from getting the big head or becoming too greedy. Further, I sacrificed my job and I will also be sacrificing personal onslaught against me. I can assure you that there is NOTHING selfish about that. Selfish are the AGC's who were under the same terrible representation as I was but chose not to sacrifice and chose to keep their mouths shut so they can continue selfishly collecting the $9,000 monthly checks. Nope, I checked the pride and ego at the door. After all the bloody darts thrown at me, all I ask is for the membership to look at the scoreboard, because it won't change. Don't buy the talk on the field. I will be put record on the members dime up against anyone...anyone. And I can also point to the scoreboard and show how Delaney has destroyed each property. One thing I won't do against Delaney or any other candidate is attempt to disqualify them because of things I have on them personally that have nothing to do with representation matters. But anything to do with representation is fair game on this field and I will hit him hard on all of his support for management.

His latest support for management is the LOA he signed which can be viewed on our webpage.

Onward www.occupyiam141.com

Tim
Seen it. Picked up my own LOA. Sida training.Signed by MC back in 2009. Bob Weston gave it to me, as he denied my grievence for lost time as to travel for SIDA training. Said that was never USAirways policy. Even though all applications for SIDA bagdes ask for compony sponsers and company sponsers signatures. Which is Article 24 paragraph A. Lost time Article 24 pragraph G and sub patragraph 1. Still wondering how did we lose contractual language?
 
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Seen it. Picked up my own LOA. Sida training.Signed by MC back in 2009. Bob Weston gave it to me, as he denied my grievence for lost time as to travel for SIDA training. Said that was never USAirways policy. Even though all applications for SIDA bagdes ask for compony sponsers and company sponsers signatures. Which is Article 24 paragraph A. Lost time Article 24 pragraph G and sub patragraph 1. Still wondering how did we lose contractual language?
Did you see the jetway non-precedential LOA? Bro, there are so many side deals that it's hard to know for sure what is still standing in the contract. If we didn't intercept the non precedence LOA supporting managements lock out of the 5 stations, we never would have seen that either. This clown can go in there and sign any ole flimsy LOA any ole flimsy time he wants to.

Canale was terrible, but at least Canale allowed the US AIRWAYS bros and sisters to vote on the lead referendum. Delaney circumvents ALL negotiation teams from airtran, to united, to us airways and signs his own crap. All without member consent. But plenty of consent with management. Really nasty crap. And who wants to vote for him?

regards,
 
Did you see the jetway non-precedential LOA? Bro, there are so many side deals that it's hard to know for sure what is still standing in the contract. If we didn't intercept the non precedence LOA supporting managements lock out of the 5 stations, we never would have seen that either. This clown can go in there and sign any ole flimsy LOA any ole flimsy time he wants to.

Canale was terrible, but at least Canale allowed the US AIRWAYS bros and sisters to vote on the lead referendum. Delaney circumvents ALL negotiation teams from airtran, to united, to us airways and signs his own crap. All without member consent. But plenty of consent with management. Really nasty crap. And who wants to vote for him?

regards,
tim,
Are these LOAs even available, for the members to review? If so, How? "what is done in the dark will be brought to the light" - Johnny Cash
ograc
 
Did you see the jetway non-precedential LOA? Bro, there are so many side deals that it's hard to know for sure what is still standing in the contract. If we didn't intercept the non precedence LOA supporting managements lock out of the 5 stations, we never would have seen that either. This clown can go in there and sign any ole flimsy LOA any ole flimsy time he wants to.

Canale was terrible, but at least Canale allowed the US AIRWAYS bros and sisters to vote on the lead referendum. Delaney circumvents ALL negotiation teams from airtran, to united, to us airways and signs his own crap. All without member consent. But plenty of consent with management. Really nasty crap. And who wants to vote for him?

regards,
 
"BIG PICTURE" Tim Nelson from ORD . What is LCC F/S suppose to be OCCUPYING ?
 
Tim,

You should have said "I think PJ is wrong", not that I am wrong. I will disagree with you here. I firmly believe, that if anybody other than RD wins the prez spot all of DL141 is going to go 10 steps back. Especially here at USAirways. Let's use the occupy 141 ticket as an exaple. How much time will your ticket have to spend at placid harbor for classes? How many grievance's do you think will be ignored, well, set aside anyway, during that time by the new AGC's? Not to mention the backlog of grievances already filed waiting for hearings/arbitrations. How long will you personally delay negotiations by not signing a confidentiality agreement? Do you really think the company would allow that? What would you do when they said no negotiations until you sign? Would you hold the entire group hostage to prove your point? Then you have to hand pick your negotiating team, who again have to go to class, more time spent not getting a new CBA. And you have no idea who my station supports, maybe you do for UA, but you have no idea who US supports do you? I did it once before, do you not think I can do it again? I have a proven track record with my station, are you gonna try to disrupt that by pushuing your own agenda here and dividing the group even more? I may or may not see you at the LL on nomination day, I'll certainly be there, will you? So I would have to say, that in YOUR opinion, I am wrong, lets see how many others think I am.

neci,

maybe not square one, but certainly close. That is of course MY opinion.
 
tim,
Are these LOAs even available, for the members to review? If so, How? "what is done in the dark will be brought to the light" - Johnny Cash
ograc
no. he doesn't post them. Bro, he just does what he wants to do, circumvents the negotiation team, no matter what airline. No transparency at all.

regards,
 
"Big Picture" Tim Nelson. WE love your salesman skills. But, I for one would never trust you to be President of D-141. Many of US both active with the IAM and those just trying to survive the RATH of these CORRUPT CORP. do not want a BUNCH of DISGRUNTLED members starting over to get US a CBA or handling a grievance. Many of US agree and have lived what you have archived in your brain. BFD ! The fact is you are a salesman,organizer, and historian. Not a good candidate to be President and Leader of a diverse labor union like the IAM. Like I tried to convince one of our members at SFO to start out as a steward. He like you only want to be on top and you like him will only hurt the MEMBERS at LCC. My advise to you is try to get elected and win a GCC position first. Maybe they will vote for you in PHX .They like good GOD loving BROTHERS and need your PASSION.
 
"Big Picture" Tim Nelson. WE love your salesman skills. But, I for one would never trust you to be President of D-141. Many of US both active with the IAM and those just trying to survive the RATH of these CORRUPT CORP. do not want a BUNCH of DISGRUNTLED members starting over to get US a CBA or handling a grievance. Many of US agree and have lived what you have archived in your brain. BFD ! The fact is you are a salesman,organizer, and historian. Not a good candidate to be President and Leader of a diverse labor union like the IAM. Like I tried to convince one of our members at SFO to start out as a steward. He like you only want to be on top and you like him will only hurt the MEMBERS at LCC. My advise to you is try to get elected and win a GCC position first. Maybe they will vote for you in PHX .They like good GOD loving BROTHERS and need your PASSION.
I was already a Local Chairman for several years, then I led a District department and was plenty successful. But I get it that you are not comfortable with me so you should have other choices. I think there are 3 running for President, 4 tickets altogether. I owe it to myself and the membership, if the membership chooses someone else then it will be written. No big deal I love my life and whatever happens always happens for my good.

Onward!

Tim
 
no. he doesn't post them. Bro, he just does what he wants to do, circumvents the negotiation team, no matter what airline. No transparency at all.

regards,

If these LOAs have been intercepted is there a way they can be posted on this board for review? If these exist it circumvents not only the negotiating team, but the CBA and his fiduciary duty to duly represent.
 
If these LOAs have been intercepted is there a way they can be posted on this board for review? If these exist it circumvents not only the negotiating team, but the CBA and his fiduciary duty to duly represent.
we intercepted the LOA where delaney releases your company from the lockout of BUF, IND, MSY, etc. It's posted at www.occupyiam141.com

ograc, yes it circumvents the negotiations team, and the CBA, but it is not a DFR complaint because as President he has the powers to do it. We will post other stuff at a later time but I do think it was significant to post the Lockout LOA now. That's why I owe it to myself and the membership to bring in the Occupy platform. It's absolutely insane to support a president who has limited resources to US AIRWAYS members so that, as PJ put it, there are backlogs of grievances. And it's also insane to have someone who pisses all over the negotiations team. The AGC's are in power to stop it but they haven't. They see the Prez as their lottery ticket where the 21 of them can split the $2.5 million yearly ticket for salaries that the membership pays them. Honestly, it's like 21 people winning a lottery ticket because there hasn't been a damn thing done other than losing 5 more stations and supporting that lockout, and hoping that this April doesn't put more stations out there. And it's not Canale, it's Delaney. 4 years next month is when he was nominated. NOTHING DONE except big fat conventions and more job loss over the past 4 years at US AIRWAYS.

4 more years of him will either mean you get horse traded in a merger, or maybe only 5 or 6 stations left at US AIRWAYS.

regards,
 
we intercepted the LOA where delaney releases your company from the lockout of BUF, IND, MSY, etc. It's posted at www.occupyiam141.com

ograc, yes it circumvents the negotiations team, and the CBA, but it is not a DFR complaint because as President he has the powers to do it. We will post other stuff at a later time but I do think it was significant to post the Lockout LOA now. That's why I owe it to myself and the membership to bring in the Occupy platform. It's absolutely insane to support a president who has limited resources to US AIRWAYS members so that, as PJ put it, there are backlogs of grievances. And it's also insane to have someone who pisses all over the negotiations team. The AGC's are in power to stop it but they haven't. They see the Prez as their lottery ticket where the 21 of them can split the $2.5 million yearly ticket for salaries that the membership pays them. Honestly, it's like 21 people winning a lottery ticket because there hasn't been a damn thing done other than losing 5 more stations and supporting that lockout, and hoping that this April doesn't put more stations out there. And it's not Canale, it's Delaney. 4 years next month is when he was nominated. NOTHING DONE except big fat conventions and more job loss over the past 4 years at US AIRWAYS.

4 more years of him will either mean you get horse traded in a merger, or maybe only 5 or 6 stations left at US AIRWAYS.

regards,

If this action falls within his powers and authority I view it as an abuse of such authority. A blatant sellout if the terms weren't first, and at the very least, explained to the affected members. The affected members should have been given the choice between his LOA or arbitration. It's their lives and futures at stake! I thought this union prided itself in it's democracy?
 
If this action falls within his powers and authority I view it as an abuse of such authority. A blatant sellout if the terms weren't first, and at the very least, explained to the affected members. The affected members should have been given the choice between his LOA or arbitration. It's their lives and futures at stake! I thought this union prided itself in it's democracy?
All I can say is that the BUF AGC talked the talk and told everyone in BUF that he was going to stand with them in arbitration. Well, I don't mean to be crude but the dude flipped like a pancake after making his TV appearance and supported his "Boss" handing the keys to BUF over to management. Those are the facts. Ironically, it's the same AGC who PJ now supports. I will give some of these AGC points for knowing how to blow smoke up everyone's collective arses with talk on the field, but they haven't produced squat on the scoreboard. As terrible as Canale was, Delaney and his AGC who supported the continuation of the lockout, ended up worse. Amazingly, both are claiming that they actually got the BUF members who are now sitting at home laid off, something they didn't have, i.e., 600 hours in their pensions. But those BUF members would have had that anyways if they still had jobs. Delaney also lied to PJ and all of us in the messenger when he told all the members that US AIRWAYS closed those stations prematurely [again, his words not mine] and that he was going to stand with the members and fast track it to arbitration. Well, the guy flipped like a pancake and each and most of his US AIRWAYS AGC's backed him up 100% and threw their membership under the bus.

It's funny how PJ wants to discount what I did when he was paying me, and then interpret the occupy 141 platform delusionally, and at the same time he doesn't have it in him to stand up and admit how Delaney has limited the resources at US AIRWAYS and admit that there is a backlog of grievances, not because of Canale, but because our AGC's need help that Delaney refuses to give them. Then PJ somehow interjects that if 8 or 9 US AIRWAYS AGC's on the occupy 141 win that somehow the INTL will stomp its feet and not allow it. Folks, if everyone took their political blinders off, I'm convinced that 100% of all US AIRWAYS members would be able to freely admit how IAM 141 has treated all of you like second best, and continues to. You pay the same dues as everyone else and it's high time that the District allow equal distribution of resources. I do agree with PJ that there are a backlog of grievances and that grievances shouldn't take 4 years.....but I wholelheartedly disagree with him that we are still dealing with Canale issues. These guys were nominated 4 years ago next month and even though Canale did have a backlog....there is still a backlog. It's not because of Canale, it's because whether it is Canale or Delaney, the resources that the District President has allowed for the US AIRWAYS dues paying membership continues to be second best. Look at the LM2's and ask yourself, why are the AGC's spending about $25,000 than a UA AGC in travel and per diem cost?? The structure is broken and something is wrong guys. Your AGC's are not only in the sky flying 3 times as much as an UA AGC but it's happening on your dime and it's actually a bad waste of $25,000 in wasted expenses. Actually, if we equalize the AGC resources, we will actually save the membership, objectively with the Occupy platform, $60,000+ a year in hotel and per diem cost. For example, it doesn't matter how great or how terrible an AGC is, if he is spending most of his time in the air and in hotels half way across the country, who is paying for it? You are. And because of all of this additional air time, the US AIRWAYS AGC's are burning twice the amount of YOUR Money but it's money that should not be wasted since it isn't useful money. And it's NOT their faults....it's the increased workloads and the additional cross country flying that is wasting their time also.

Consider the following. NH spent $29,000 in per diems. MH spent 32,000. And MW/MF split the year due to elections but cummulatively they spent: $27,000. Nothing against any of these guys, they simply had to sleep somewhere but the meter was running. Again, it's not because of them, it's just the cross country assignments that they have. Now, the average UA per diem is around $10,000 because they don't have to go across the country and aren't representing as many members. Does anyone think the AGC's want to be away from home across the country without the same help as a United AGC? Of course not.

The Occupy 141 wants to save monies of the members, not just by salary cuts through voluntary deductions, but we have identified $2 freakn million of complete and utter waste that we can cut AND amazingly provide MORE resources! I know that sounds illogical to cut $2 million and gain resources but it's true. And, for members like PJ to not support some 'good sense' things just because I'm saying them is a joke. These things should be happening whether I say it or not. But they aren't.

If we give the US AIRWAYS members equal representation, we will reduce time spent in the air in cross country flights, we will better service our membership, and we will SAVE $250,000 in 4 years with this very basic structure change, SIMPLY BY REALLOCATING RESOURCES with fair distribution. And, although PJ refuses to look at the actual numbers, we actually save $50,000+ per year, or another $200,000 for my 4 year term by firing the outside law firm and bringing in our own professional attorney in house and paying him $100,000 instead of burning $150,000 per year on the outside group that is just a 'phone call away'. FWIW: The average labor attorney makes below $100,000. The IAM's INTL deputy #1 makes the most at $150,000, the associates make around $110,000, and the Teamsters attorneys and other unions in house attorneys make around $85,000 with some topping out up to $150,000.

Folks, you guys have been living under a bk contract and didn't even get a pay raise this year, it makes no sense to keep pimping off your money and keep raising the dues but if that is what everyone wants then just keep the status quo and tell me I'm an #### again. I will agree that I am an #### but I'm also a mover and know how to do the job and it takes someone that is 24/7. As aside, Delaney only spent $6,000 in per diems. That's because that prick sits in his damn office from 9-5 M-F and only spends money when his lame arse goes to conventions. Him, the S/T, the Director of Organizing, and other positions like lehives which have national responsibility should be 24/7 and have per diems over $25,000 and be out of their office. That's why myself, the S/T, Lehive, all had per diems over that amount, we were never in our offices, we were out doing our jobs. Delaney sits in his freakn office till 5 pm unless he goes over to the other side of the building and putts on the putting green he installed.

regards,
 
All I can say is that the BUF AGC talked the talk and told everyone in BUF that he was going to stand with them in arbitration. Well, I don't mean to be crude but the dude flipped like a pancake after making his TV appearance and supported his "Boss" handing the keys to BUF over to management. Those are the facts. Ironically, it's the same AGC who PJ now supports. I will give some of these AGC points for knowing how to blow smoke up everyone's collective arses with talk on the field, but they haven't produced squat on the scoreboard. As terrible as Canale was, Delaney and his AGC who supported the continuation of the lockout, ended up worse. Amazingly, both are claiming that they actually got the BUF members who are now sitting at home laid off, something they didn't have, i.e., 600 hours in their pensions. But those BUF members would have had that anyways if they still had jobs. Delaney also lied to PJ and all of us in the messenger when he told all the members that US AIRWAYS closed those stations prematurely [again, his words not mine] and that he was going to stand with the members and fast track it to arbitration. Well, the guy flipped like a pancake and each and most of his US AIRWAYS AGC's backed him up 100% and threw their membership under the bus.

It's funny how PJ wants to discount what I did when he was paying me, and then interpret the occupy 141 platform delusionally, and at the same time he doesn't have it in him to stand up and admit how Delaney has limited the resources at US AIRWAYS and admit that there is a backlog of grievances, not because of Canale, but because our AGC's need help that Delaney refuses to give them. Then PJ somehow interjects that if 8 or 9 US AIRWAYS AGC's on the occupy 141 win that somehow the INTL will stomp its feet and not allow it. Folks, if everyone took their political blinders off, I'm convinced that 100% of all US AIRWAYS members would be able to freely admit how IAM 141 has treated all of you like second best, and continues to. You pay the same dues as everyone else and it's high time that the District allow equal distribution of resources. I do agree with PJ that there are a backlog of grievances and that grievances shouldn't take 4 years.....but I wholelheartedly disagree with him that we are still dealing with Canale issues. These guys were nominated 4 years ago next month and even though Canale did have a backlog....there is still a backlog. It's not because of Canale, it's because whether it is Canale or Delaney, the resources that the District President has allowed for the US AIRWAYS dues paying membership continues to be second best. Look at the LM2's and ask yourself, why are the AGC's spending about $25,000 than a UA AGC in travel and per diem cost?? The structure is broken and something is wrong guys. Your AGC's are not only in the sky flying 3 times as much as an UA AGC but it's happening on your dime and it's actually a bad waste of $25,000 in wasted expenses. Actually, if we equalize the AGC resources, we will actually save the membership, objectively with the Occupy platform, $60,000+ a year in hotel and per diem cost. For example, it doesn't matter how great or how terrible an AGC is, if he is spending most of his time in the air and in hotels half way across the country, who is paying for it? You are. And because of all of this additional air time, the US AIRWAYS AGC's are burning twice the amount of YOUR Money but it's money that should not be wasted since it isn't useful money. And it's NOT their faults....it's the increased workloads and the additional cross country flying that is wasting their time also.

Consider the following. NH spent $29,000 in per diems. MH spent 32,000. And MW/MF split the year due to elections but cummulatively they spent: $27,000. Nothing against any of these guys, they simply had to sleep somewhere but the meter was running. Again, it's not because of them, it's just the cross country assignments that they have. Now, the average UA per diem is around $10,000 because they don't have to go across the country and aren't representing as many members. Does anyone think the AGC's want to be away from home across the country without the same help as a United AGC? Of course not.

The Occupy 141 wants to save monies of the members, not just by salary cuts through voluntary deductions, but we have identified $2 freakn million of complete and utter waste that we can cut AND amazingly provide MORE resources! I know that sounds illogical to cut $2 million and gain resources but it's true. And, for members like PJ to not support some 'good sense' things just because I'm saying them is a joke. These things should be happening whether I say it or not. But they aren't.

If we give the US AIRWAYS members equal representation, we will reduce time spent in the air in cross country flights, we will better service our membership, and we will SAVE $250,000 in 4 years with this very basic structure change, SIMPLY BY REALLOCATING RESOURCES with fair distribution. And, although PJ refuses to look at the actual numbers, we actually save $50,000+ per year, or another $200,000 for my 4 year term by firing the outside law firm and bringing in our own professional attorney in house and paying him $100,000 instead of burning $150,000 per year on the outside group that is just a 'phone call away'. FWIW: The average labor attorney makes below $100,000. The IAM's INTL deputy #1 makes the most at $150,000, the associates make around $110,000, and the Teamsters attorneys and other unions in house attorneys make around $85,000 with some topping out up to $150,000.

Folks, you guys have been living under a bk contract and didn't even get a pay raise this year, it makes no sense to keep pimping off your money and keep raising the dues but if that is what everyone wants then just keep the status quo and tell me I'm an #### again. I will agree that I am an #### but I'm also a mover and know how to do the job and it takes someone that is 24/7. As aside, Delaney only spent $6,000 in per diems. That's because that prick sits in his damn office from 9-5 M-F and only spends money when his lame arse goes to conventions. Him, the S/T, the Director of Organizing, and other positions like lehives which have national responsibility should be 24/7 and have per diems over $25,000 and be out of their office. That's why myself, the S/T, Lehive, all had per diems over that amount, we were never in our offices, we were out doing our jobs. Delaney sits in his freakn office till 5 pm unless he goes over to the other side of the building and putts on the putting green he installed.

regards,

Wow! Quite a lot to absorb and ponder. But let's get back to the issue. Would you agree that the practice of a DL President signing a LOA that adversely affects members' livelihoods, without consulting the affected members and giving them a choice of a LOA or arbitration, is inherently wrong? The way I see it the AGC's position on this issue was disregarded and more of our members were shown the street, forced to uproot their families and move, or bear the hardship of commuting to save their employment.
 

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