Fleet Service apathy

[ograc]

Congratulations Cargo! You are the only candidate running that has made themselves accessible on this forum that actually makes any sense. You have demonstrated ALL of the qualities I look for in a leader.

You are humble, knowledgeable, and wise from experience. You have chosen not to engage in childish bashing of the current leadership, and that speaks volumes about your character.

You have presented actual solutions in terms of cohesion and patience. You will get my vote, but... as I mentioned before… I want to keep our best N/D folks in office.

Prepare to join them!

roabilly,
Thank you for your kind words and support. As I have stated previously, I am but one, of many candidates, running on The Leadership For Progress Team. I respectfully ask, once our website is up and running, that you review the candidates' bios running with my team. I believe the bios will speak for themselves regarding qualifications for office and experience. I respect your opinion regarding the upcoming elections. I ask, and am confident, you will consider all of the candidates' qualifications and experience, regarding the respective positions they are seeking election to, before making a decision on who you endorse.
Fraternally,
ograc

 

[ograc]

Congratulations Cargo! You are the only candidate running that has made themselves accessible on this forum that actually makes any sense. You have demonstrated ALL of the qualities I look for in a leader.

You are humble, knowledgeable, and wise from experience. You have chosen not to engage in childish bashing of the current leadership, and that speaks volumes about your character.

You have presented actual solutions in terms of cohesion and patience. You will get my vote, but... as I mentioned before… I want to keep our best N/D folks in office.

Prepare to join them!

roabilly,

The Leadership For Progress team's website is now online. Mission statement, platform and candidates' bios and experience are there for review. I believe you know who I am. I will disclose this information on this forum in the near future once some time has been given for everyone to visit the site.

http://lfp12.com

Respectfully submitted,
ograc

 

[pjirish317]

roabilly,

The Leadership For Progress team's website is now online. Mission statement, platform and candidates' bios and experience are there for review. I believe you know who I am. I will disclose this information on this forum in the near future once some time has been given for everyone to visit the site.

http://lfp12.com

Respectfully submitted,
ograc

ograc,

I have a question. Do you think it fair/appropriate that US has only 1 four year AGC running on the "leadership for progress" ticket? Not to mention that the four year AGC in question is partially responsible for the backlog of grievances that US has now.

 

[Harry Callahan]

Website looks very good.

Harry

 

[ograc]

ograc,

I have a question. Do you think it fair/appropriate that US has only 1 four year AGC running on the "leadership for progress" ticket? Not to mention that the four year AGC in question is partially responsible for the backlog of grievances that US has now.

pjirish317,

In response to your first question. I'm comfortable with it. The remaining US AGCs on the US side will be up for election in two years. It raises the accountability level on AGC performance on the US side. An issue that has been lacking with previous leadership teams in my opinion. The candidate you speak of is the only one, outside of MR on the Leadership For Progress Team who was on the negotiating committee for the TA. They are the only candidates who have knowledge of what the "intent" of the language agreed to was. The company knows this. It is one of the main reasons we (the union and the company) cannot agree on the gray areas of contractual language. Regarding your insinuation the said candidate is responsible for the backlog of grievances that US has now I strongly disagree. I served as Committee Chairperson under the said AGC. It was clearly defined my chief responsibility was to screen potential grievances. Forward valid grievances. Explain to members, whose percieved grievance did not violate contractual language, why the union could not proceed. This was the duty and responsibilty of the Grievance Committee Chairperson. The backlog of grievances is directly attributed to the current AGCs instructing their Committee members to file on everything. Regardless of the validty of the grievance. The end result is valid grievances, are not heard in a timely manner, because of the backlog of meritless grievances filed, that do not support contractual violations. Please do not insinuate he is responsible for the backlog. He was voted out two years ago.
ograc

 

[pjirish317]

pjirish317,

In response to your first question. I'm comfortable with it. The remaining US AGCs on the US side will be up for election in two years. It raises the accountability level on AGC performance on the US side. An issue that has been lacking with previous leadership teams in my opinion. The candidate you speak of is the only one, outside of MR on the Leadership For Progress Team who was on the negotiating committee for the TA. They are the only candidates who have knowledge of what the "intent" of the language agreed to was. The company knows this. It is one of the main reasons we (the union and the company) cannot agree on the gray areas of contractual language. Regarding your insinuation the said candidate is responsible for the backlog of grievances that US has now I strongly disagree. I served as Committee Chairperson under the said AGC. It was clearly defined my chief responsibility was to screen potential grievances. Forward valid grievances. Explain to members, whose percieved grievance did not violate contractual language, why the union could not proceed. This was the duty and responsibilty of the Grievance Committee Chairperson. The backlog of grievances is directly attributed to the current AGCs instructing their Committee members to file on everything. Regardless of the validty of the grievance. The end result is valid grievances, are not heard in a timely manner, because of the backlog of meritless grievances filed, that do not support contractual violations. Please do not insinuate he is responsible for the backlog. He was voted out two years ago.
ograc

ograc,

I will just have to disagree with your assesment of said AGC. I was not trying to insinuate anything. He was directly responsible for the backlog PRIOR to the current AGC's getting into office. Was MW not responsible for scheduling the arbitrations? You have first hand knowledge of "invalid" grievances? Please share with the class these grievances that are "non-contractual" grievances, or grievances that do not violate our CBA? Any examples? I have 1 grievance personally that was filed 4 years ago. Still waiting for arbitration. Please explain to me how in two years prior to being voted out, MW could not get this grievance scheduled for arbitration, along with countless others?

 

[ograc]

ograc,

I will just have to disagree with your assesment of said AGC. I was not trying to insinuate anything. He was directly responsible for the backlog PRIOR to the current AGC's getting into office. Was MW not responsible for scheduling the arbitrations? You have first hand knowledge of "invalid" grievances? Please share with the class these grievances that are "non-contractual" grievances, or grievances that do not violate our CBA? Any examples? I have 1 grievance personally that was filed 4 years ago. Still waiting for arbitration. Please explain to me how in two years prior to being voted out, MW could not get this grievance scheduled for arbitration, along with countless others?

pjirish317,

2 years awaiting arbitration is difficult to accept. 4 years for resolution is unacceptable. The past two years have produced no progress as well. If your grievance involved Level 3 discipline it's a little late, given the discipline time frame has expired. If it involves lost wage I ask you what progress has been made, in proccessing your grievance, the past two years under the newly elected AGCs? When you point a finger at one with your hand, three point back in your direction. I'll keep you posted on what I mean about meritless grievances. I'll probably be instructed to file one this week. I can cite many in the past and will share as an example.
ograc

 

[pjirish317]

pjirish317,

2 years awaiting arbitration is difficult to accept. 4 years for resolution is unacceptable. The past two years have produced no progress as well. If your grievance involved Level 3 discipline it's a little late, given the discipline time frame has expired. If it involves lost wage I ask you what progress has been made, in proccessing your grievance, the past two years under the newly elected AGCs? When you point a finger at one with your hand, three point back in your direction. I'll keep you posted on what I mean about meritless grievances. I'll probably be instructed to file one this week. I can cite many in the past and will share as an example.
ograc

Considering that from 2008 to 2010, MW was responsible for scheduling arbitrations, how is that difficult to accept? Considering that for the past two years, the lead AGC that had it was/is going through some personal issues. MC was the one who recieved it after JR, a former AGC, JR, BTW lied to my face about this particular grievance. So am I to understand that you are shrugging off the first two years, and placing no blame on MW for two years of nothing? If that is the case, you have just lost all credibility with me. I am pointing a finger, but the other three are pointing at the ground, not back in my direction. And instructed by whom to file a "meritless" grievance? The AGC?

 

[roabilly]

roabilly,

The Leadership For Progress team's website is now online. Mission statement, platform and candidates' bios and experience are there for review. I believe you know who I am. I will disclose this information on this forum in the near future once some time has been given for everyone to visit the site.

http://lfp12.com

Respectfully submitted,
ograc

Thanks Cargo... the site looks good... I see some familiar faces... two of whom are from my local 1725! I like your attitude and your knowledge... I'm not going to vote a straight slate... so anything can happen!

Brobilly

 

[700UW]

You do realize when setting up an arbitration it takes a meeting with labor relations, you know the people that are currently negotiating with the AFA, IAM M&R, IAM Fleet and the CWA.

They also hear third step grievances.

They meet and then have to agree to who is going to be the arbiter from a list that they have previously agreed upon, then they have to contact the arbiter to see his or her's availability.

 

[pjirish317]

You do realize when setting up an arbitration it takes a meeting with labor relations, you know the people that are currently negotiating with the AFA, IAM M&R, IAM Fleet and the CWA.

They also hear third step grievances.

They meet and then have to agree to who is going to be the arbiter from a list that they have previously agreed upon, then they have to contact the arbiter to see his or her's availability.

700,

We were not negotiating 4 years ago. Well we were for a transition agreement, but that was accepted in September 08 I think. So what happened after that? And yes I do realize how it works throughout the process. It doesn't change the fact that MW did not do what he was supposed to do. Neither did MC for that matter.

 

[700UW]

Wasnt MC pushed to be elected by Tim?

I knew him when he was in catering and I could have told you he wasnt AGC material and was in way over his head.

 

[mike33]

Thanks Cargo... the site looks good... I see some familiar faces... two of whom are from my local 1725! I like your attitude and your knowledge... I'm not going to vote a straight slate... so anything can happen!

Brobilly

That Ticket is so a reminder of a RC Ticket. I do hope some of the thinking at the top and bottom has changed. I remembers a lot of " Oh sweeties " and " Honey this and Honey thats" a few years ago on this board !.

 

[roabilly]

That Ticket is so a reminder of a RC Ticket. I do hope some of the thinking at the top and bottom has changed. I remembers a lot of " Oh sweeties " and " Honey this and Honey thats" a few years ago on this board !.

Ohhh yes... the infamous Ms. Shocker... how could we forget. As it stands.. there are couple of candidates on the LFP team that I may consider in a mix and match... with N/D retaining most if not ALL existing positions. I think there may be room for two or so to serve... the question is which two?

 

[mike33]

That Ticket is so a reminder of a RC Ticket. I do hope some of the thinking at the top and bottom has changed. I remembers a lot of " Oh sweeties " and " Honey this and Honey thats" a few years ago on this board !.

I like your site a lot. I like your attitude and ideas. I'm a little historically skeptical on the thought of the follow through and what it would do to the current negotiations. Also proposal #13...........is that 2 positions of Director of Organizing or just a typo ?