Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[Airlinelifer]

Meto,
 
WT "worked" their, Southwind is in TechOps.  Why are they so concerned with Inflight's union vote?
What's your take on this union vote?

 

[WorldTraveler]

and there is ONE person from DL in-flight that participates on this forum. It isn't Kev and it sure as heck isn't 700 or robbed who never have worked for DL in any dept. and at any time.

and I agreed to a package of valuable benefits from DL that I do not want screwed up because of the same type of labor problems that have existed at other airlines.

but trying to focus on who is qualified to talk about the topic is nothing but a smokescreen to try to and NOT talk about the fact that there are more than 100 REAL DL FAs who said the IAM has told them they signed a card when they do not.

 

[metopower]

As stated many times before... I don't care one way or the other. It is up to THEM. They (WT and south wind) seem to care more about non DL people organizing not DL people asking or trying to get a union. The rest of you don't seem to get the difference. Other then Kev ..the rest are cheerleaders and organizers . He has a dog in this fight .

 

[Airlinelifer]

Meto. I'm currently employed with D E L T A, and if the cabin crew wants to be organized and they get the votes, good for them.  I have a funny feeling the way WT posts his opinion; he sounds like he still sits in a cubicle at the GO.
 
Southwind??? I dunno

 

[WorldTraveler]

I'm not.

it slays you and a whole lot of other people that I still care about what happens to the company that has promised me lots of goodies.

and let's be real clear that the FA vote really doesn't involve you, now does it?

 

[Kev3188]

Harumph!

 

[700UW]

I'm not.it slays you and a whole lot of other people that I still care about what happens to the company that has promised me lots of goodies.and let's be real clear that the FA vote really doesn't involve you, now does it?

Hypocrite, it doesn't effect you either the former peon in revenue management who took the money and ran.

 

[700UW]

but trying to focus on who is qualified to talk about the topic is nothing but a smokescreen to try to and NOT talk about the fact that there are more than 100 REAL DL FAs who said the IAM has told them they signed a card when they do not.

Speculation, and let me explain something to you since you are clearly biased and ignorant.
 
Once the IAM filed the cards for an election, DL was obligated to send over a name list of every Flight Attendant to the NMB.  That name list also includes every FA's signature.
 
The NMB will match the signatures to the cards.
 
The IAM knows the procedures very well, so I call BS on your claim, learn to come up with something original instead of DL's Propaganda Web Page and its content,which is not an unbiased source of information.
 
Once again, dont let the facts get in your way.

 

[700UW]

In the past, CEO Richard Anderson has worked closely with unions and spoke kindly of us. We look forward to regaining that same respectful relationship that we once had.
 
"In addition we must maintain a close relationship with our unions and their leadership at all levels. We must have an open and fair relationship with our unions, as they are important to our success. All parties must abide by the terms and conditions of the applicable collective bargaining agreement. We should expeditiously settle grievances, preferably at the local level and always be candid and direct in our dealings with labor officials. Our operation will only run well if we have good relationships with our people and work together with their collective bargaining representatives."
 

-CEO Richard Anderson
Jan 6, 2000

 
 

 

[WorldTraveler]

Hypocrite, it doesn't effect you either the former peon in revenue management who took the money and ran.

it is precisely because I took the money and FLEW ON DL, not ran, that I have a horse in this race and why I will make it clear that the strategies that have made strong for more than 85 years still work.

Those strategies don't involve using strategies from a defunct airline which is all some people here can do.

and we can harp on was written 15 years ago if you'd like but there are more than 100 FAs names that were fraudulently submitted to the NMB as being supportive of a union and they are not. If they said they didn't sign the cards, then their names will be removed... and I suspect because of the publicity DL will be able to send even more names of FAs who have not agreed to have their names on the list.

further, it is overwhelmingly clear that the IAM has enormous incentives to get $14M out of the pockets of DL FAs - and even more from other DL employees in one last ditch attempt to turn around their failing finances that are a result of their complete failure in representing American workers.

IAM will lose thousands of represented employees at UA just for one company and they want DL employees to bail out the Machinists union.

the chances are very high that the DL FAs will once again, as thye have done 3 times already, determine that the threats of unionization are far more effective in getting what they want rather than actually belong to a union.

and DL will get what it wants which is a non-union FA workforce to which it can pay premium wages and not the industry standard wages which is the benchmark that unions have to negotiate from.

 

[700UW]

http://youtu.be/jngZTnSQa2w?list=PLF0pmx1f4MpkNjYvJ3-HYcW8_hHWIcZnT

 

[700UW]

 

[WorldTraveler]

except they may not be.

the vote will have to determine that.

And the legality of the vote depends on correctly determining how many of the cards are actually valid.

 

[700UW]

Wow! Delta "received" concerns from 100 flight attendants that said they never signed a card but got a message from IAM thanking them for signing. So.... what does that make the card count.... 11,900. Still a majority. And honestly, everyone whose card was received signed it. Everyone who didn't, no cards were received or delivered to NMB. Very simple.
 

 

[WorldTraveler]

and the NMB has a responsibility to make sure that ALL of the cards are legitimate.

given that the NMB can't possibly professionally analyze the cards of over 12K employees, I expect that if there is a list of DL FAs who say they have not signed a card, that will take precedent over any cards which the NMB might actually have, esp. since the FAs themselves don't know who has signed a card.