Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[WorldTraveler]

I don't think. I KNOW that he HAS BEEN paid in the past.

I'm glad he has helped you. Really.

we don't even know that the cards are valid or that the FAs want a union - just that a bunch of people signed cards.

don't put the cart before the horse.

DL people are a smart lot.

 

[700UW]

I was paid to work the raid at US big deal, unlike you I can clearly state I have never been paid to post or have anything to do with the current drives at DL. You spend way too much time posting your lies and misinformation on here.

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, I have stated and posted repeatedly that I have never been paid to post here.

You don't want to believe it so you keep posting that I am paid despite the fact that it is you that traffic in lies, not me.

 

[700UW]

Sure your not paid, tell us another lie.

You are a pathological liar, myself , Frugal and Dawg have exposed lie after lie you have posted.

The threats you made towards the FAs are lies and your statement of hundreds of millions in dues each year is another one of your lies.

Shall I continue?

 

[metopower]

No please stop.. You started this thread with the words ..no personal attacks... And that's all you do. If you can't follow your own admonitions then how can you expect anyone else to? Not a question..don't want your answer.

 

[700UW]

 

[700UW]

When I began my career as a flight attendant, I had no idea about unions, what they did, why some people thought they were necessary. I had no opinion. After a short time (probation) in this industry, I, through conversations with senior co-workers who had fought tirelessly for improvements to our collective work rules and compensation, and through my experience with management became aware of the benefits of union representation.
 
I had a direct relationship with management because they adhered to our collective bargaining agreement. No one could be bullied, singled out, there was no preferential treatment, everyone was treated equally and if you felt the need for it, you had the right to have union representation with you when meeting with a manager.
 
That's not to say that union representation was required every time you spoke with a manager, and I had many enjoyable meetings and conversations with managers over the years that did not involve union representatives. I had direct relationship with management and felt that I was treated with integrity and respect.
 
I knew clearly that anything that could be disiplanary for me was also disciplinary for every other flight attendant. There was no 'grey area' and things were not changed at the whim of the company (33.% reduction in YOUR profit sharing because the pilots were able to NEGOTIATE a 15% increase in their wages in exchange for their 33% reduction)
 
Changes were negotiated. Most often those changes benefited labor. We had a health and safety committee that ensured that changes made to our work environment (galleys, etc.) were not harmful to flight attendants. We had a professional standards committee, where we could address issues with co-workers without endangering their jobs (everyone has a bad day now and then) There was no fear of being called into the office, and if that did happen, we had the right to have a third party to ensure that management worked within the confines of our collective bargaining agreement, ensuring equal and fair treatment of all flight attendants.
 
Delta's last anti union campaign said "give us a year" and "give it a rip"
 
I love my job, I want Delta to be successful, I didn't give Delta a year, I gave them over four years.
I have experienced this career, that I love, both with and without a union. The difference is amazing.
While I love my career and want Delta to be successful, Delta is not my family, they are a corporation.
I have family. Some of them are biological, I didn't get to choose them. I love them all.
Some of them are people I have known, who have been with me through thick and thin, and although there is no blood relation, they are family in my heart of hearts. Some of these people I first came to know as co-workers. They are non the less my family.
 
Delta is a corporation, and my best interest is not theirs. Their best interest is their bottom line, as it should be.
 
It is entirely possible to have a union and to work toward the common good of the company and labor. I have experienced it in the past, our pilots experience it today.
 
I have no interest in a contentious relationship with my employer. There is no reason that should happen. Especially in light of this quote from Richard Anderson.
 
"In addition we must maintain a close relationship with our unions and their leadership at all levels. We must have an open and fair relationship with our unions, as they are important to our success. All parties must abide by the terms and conditions of the applicable collective bargaining agreement. We should expeditiously settle grievances, preferably at the local level and always be candid and direct in our dealings with labor officials. Our operation will only run well if we have good relationships with our people and work together with their collective bargaining representatives."
- CEO Richard Anderson
Jan 6, 2000
 
I am voting yes, and look forward to the day that I can pay my union dues.
 
I am the Delta difference. I am voting yes.
 
Be Delta, Be proud, Be Different, Have a voice, Vote yes.
Joel Malsch
 
 

 

[700UW]

 

[WorldTraveler]

again, noticeably excluding profit sharing.

The rest of over 16% will be paid out this week. you won't get any DL employees to forget about it for a good long time.

it also isn't lost on most DL employees that they DL has been doing far more hiring than any other airline... averages hide the pay advances of individual employees thruout the company.

 

[700UW]

http://youtu.be/jngZTnSQa2w?list=PLF0pmx1f4MpkNjYvJ3-HYcW8_hHWIcZnT

 

[BABABOOY]

IAM CLAIM
Delta flight attendant work rules can be changed at any time, for any reason, without flight attendant consent. All other union flight attendants have guaranteed, black and white work rules. 

FACT
Delta has written work rules that reflect direct flight attendant input and are not arbitrarily changed.  Delta’s process and flexible work rules would not be possible under the contracts the IAM negotiated at the two U.S. airlines where it currently represents flight attendants. The only guarantee flight attendants have at unionized carriers is they are likely locked for years into black and whiterules without an opportunity to provide feedback resulting in quick, meaningful improvements.
At Northwest everything was cemented in black and white for 40 years, with thousands of grievances which took months or years to resolve – but Delta flight attendants have always had it better with a direct relationship.

 

[BABABOOY]

 

[Kev3188]

I lived both the "black and white" and "at any time for any reason." I'll take the former any day...

 

[BABABOOY]

In Inflight we have heard the stories of the many Grievances that were never even looked at.
also,
Not many PMNW flight attendants have anything good to say about their past Union(S)

 

[700UW]

And your post about DL not changing rules as they seem is false.