Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[Kev3188]

Baba-- at one point right at merger time the company simply stopped hearing grievances. Just put everything on ice. They also stopped solving them at the station level. IMHO, it was a calculated move designed make the IAM look ineffective. And judging by what your friends are still saying, it paid off.

 

[BABABOOY]

And your post about DL not changing rules as they seem is false.

Comprehension comprehension.   SMH
They are not "arbitrarily" change.  They have changed based on F/A input.  
But PLEASE how about YOU provide YOUR personal experience with OUR work rules?

 

[BABABOOY]

btw Kev3188
I have been reading up on Jose
very interesting to say the least. 

 

[700UW]

Comprehension comprehension.   SMH
They are not "arbitrarily" change.  They have changed based on F/A input.  
But PLEASE how about YOU provide YOUR personal experience with OUR work rules?

There are a bunch of examples on WCDFA and other sources.
 
Where in your "workrules" does it make FAs sleep on airport floors while pilots are in hotel rooms?
 
Why are pilots getting three more hours block pay on the same route as an FA?
 
And there are no work rules at DL, you are an employee at will and DL can change anything anytime like they have done in the past.
 
Do you feel that you are only worth a 3% or 4% raise while unionized pilots got 20% in the same time frame?
 
Why do the pilots have better and less expensive insurance than you?
 
How is the input on the A330, 737-900s and other planes galleys that FAs are complaining about and getting hurt working?
 
Dont be an ostrich.

 

[BABABOOY]

again please explain your personal experience with OUR work rules.
also, It looks like the IAM is promising that whatever the PILOTS get
F/A's get?   

 

[BABABOOY]

IAM CLAIM
It will not take long to negotiate an initial contract. 

 

FACT
In recent years it has taken a long time – often more than two years – to negotiate a first contract in the airline industry. With the IAM, negotiations for a first joint contract at ExpressJet started in 2011 and are ongoing; at CommutAir they took more than six years.

 

[700UW]

Go look at the pilots, DL has never taken a long time to negotiate with them, now have they?

Did you have a say in the handout raise of 3% o4 4%?
 
Did you have a say in the cut in your profit sharing by 33%?
 
Why do pilots get a first class meal and FAs dont?

 

[BABABOOY]

so now you can't argue the differences between Delta F/A's and F/A's at other airlines
so now you are turning it into an argument between the differences between Delta Pilots and
Delta F/A's.....ok got it....

 

[700UW]

Thanks to labor unions, wages have improved, the workweek is shorter and the workplace is safer.
However, employers sometimes complain that unions are harmful to business and to the economy. From an employee standpoint, is being a union member beneficial? Here are some pros and cons of union jobs.

The pros of belonging to a union
Better wages. The median weekly income of full-time wage and salary workers who were union members in 2010 was $917, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. For nonunion workers, it was $717.
 
More access to benefits. Some 93 percent of unionized workers were entitled to medical benefits compared to 69 percent of their nonunion peers, according to the National Compensation Survey published last year by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The survey represented about 101 million private industry workers and 19 million state and local government employees.


 


Unmarried domestic partners -- same sex and opposite sex -- also had access more often to these benefits if they were unionized. Workers with union representation also had 89 percent of their health insurance premiums paid by their employer for single coverage and 82 percent for family coverage. For nonunion workers, the comparable numbers were 79 percent and 66 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. And 93 percent of unionized workers have access to retirement benefits through employers compared to 64 percent of their nonunion counterparts.
 
Job security. Nonunion employees are typically hired "at will," meaning they can be fired for no reason. There are exceptions. Employers can't terminate a worker for discriminatory reasons such as race, religion, age and the like. Nor can they fire an at-will employee for being a whistleblower and certain other reasons.
 
However, workers with union jobs can only be terminated for "just cause," and the misconduct must be serious enough to merit such action. Before an employee can actually be fired, he or she can go through a grievance procedure, and if necessary, arbitration.
 
"If I know I can't be easily fired, I can speak up more freely," says Monica Bielski Boris, assistant professor of labor and employment relations at the University of Illinois.
 
Strength in numbers. Unionized workers have more power as a cohesive group than by acting individually. "What you gain is the muscle of collective action," says Hoyt Wheeler, a professor emeritus at the University of South Carolina who is now a labor arbitrator. Through collective bargaining, workers negotiate wages, health and safety issues, benefits, and working conditions with management via their union.
 
Seniority. Rules differ among collective bargaining agreements, but in the event of layoffs, employers usually are required to dismiss the most recent hires first and those with the most seniority last -- sometimes called "last hired, first fired."
In some cases, a worker with a union job who has more seniority may receive preference for an open job. Seniority also can be a factor in determining who gets a promotion. The idea is that seniority eliminates favoritism in the workplace.
 
"The chief advantage of seniority is it is objective," Wheeler says.
 
 

 

[BABABOOY]

 

[700UW]

so now you can't argue the differences between Delta F/A's and F/A's at other airlines
so now you are turning it into an argument between the differences between Delta Pilots and
Delta F/A's.....ok got it....

The chart I posted says it all.
 
DL doesnt have one work rule that is guaranteed.
 
AA and WN are more compensated than you.
 

 

[BABABOOY]

 

[700UW]

And why are you still making less than you did when DL filed Chapter 11?

Why does AA and WN enjoy better benefits, workrules, pay, etc...?

 

[700UW]

The top banner was on Delta Corporates most recent flyer. Don't let them fool you. This is INCORRECT and MISLEADING information and a flat out LIE. All votes are counted ESPECIALLY the YES votes! For the most up to date and factual information visit www.iamdelta.net
 

 

[700UW]