Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[700UW]

 

[WorldTraveler]

And if I have been gone from DL so long and know nothing about what is going on, why do you spend so much time trying to discredit me and what I say?

 

[700UW]

Cause you are World Fraudster, myself, Kevin, Dawg, Eric and others have discredited your lies over and over.

 

[robbedagain]

does anyone remember when he was asked to provide a list of all the wrong doings that some posters wanted from him  or even when some folks "schooled" him about DL JV having the highest rev etc   and he got schooled yet he deflected  as typical    he is so badly wrong in a whole lot of areas  

 

[700UW]

 

[townpete]

Same could be said about unions. Throwing good money (earned by other members dues) after bad (a continual exercise in futility).
 
What now skippy?

 

[metopower]

and from you inability to understand and learn a single second of history. You can get repeating this stupid Leo but its doesn't make your little labor hating wet dream come true. 
 
that is not what happened. Its was never what happened and it will never be what happened. Only a complete and total idiot would see that as the case. People like Glenn have done so so so much more for me than you can ever dream. Running their names in the mud because you can't figure out history is so amazingly sad and stupid its a joke. Pick up a book. 
 

None of this matters because, for the most part DALPAs scope is their scope. Some understand this
 I love your arguments. Well thought out and I can understand your conclusions from your vantage point. Let me offer another. Most if not all of theses restrictions are very similar to other Alpa carriers. (76 seats). Reason is so other airline does not have an advantage over DL. This is also because DL really does not want to cede control over their product. Part of why Leo was fired. Comair!
some buy into the stupid idea that mother D is protecting them. 
 

Don't tell someone they don't have a clue then forget to tell the real story. Delta is adding 717s. 
 
but also adding E-jets and CR9s that you aint working......... That is something you forget. 
 
 
and the only reason any of that is under control is because an evil union has scope that constantly saves you and the rest of your groups butt day in and day out. 
 Well maybe. But you fail to mention that it is an agreement that DL and Dalpa are incocert on.

Delta is also adding RJs FWIW. Just signed a deal to add more 76 seaters for G7. Who are the FAs on those
oh 717 though. lol. 
 

Deflecting again. This is how I know you are talking from your ass again. 
 
 
and Leo I don't believe for one small second you took anything in the shorts. You got your big buy out. 
 

Did you know Delta started the latest round of whipsawing at the the RJ level so EV honest to goodness can't afford to give pay increases because companies like 9E (owned by Delta Air Lines INC.) have cut wages so much?
 

So do you think your coworkers are useless then? Oh course as I said above any of the RJ operators are not apples to apples with Delta. 
 
We know this but being logical about it is stupid. 
 

IAM also has the tightest scope for ramp jobs too. 
 
want to compare it to your scope, my scope or Kevs scope? We have none. You don't know that as well because DALPA constantly saves yalls butts. 
 

You must thank DALPA for the 717. 
Again, what have YOU or the FA group done to stop extra RJ flying? 
 
 
Once again, You post how Delta is treating you so well, 717s etc but its DALPA who is giving you a job. 
 
 
 
and they are.........a..........wait for it................union.

. Not in the same sense as the iam to be honest.
Dalpa didn't come to DL with the 717 idea it was DL that did that. But they can take credit if you want to give it to them.
Leo was fired. A distinction that no other DL CEO has. Won't see an airplane with his name on it anytime soon.
717 is replacing rj 900/700 .. rj 900/700 are replacing rj200... Thus an increase in DL flying. DL FA's were never going to do any of that rj flying until the 717 . Union or not.
Scope... DL is all about control of their product. Unlike Leo who only looked at the dollar stream. If you don't think DL and Dalpa are in concert on all this you are wrong. Not much "union" in these negotiations.

 

[BABABOOY]

Just curious, 
what carrier has hired the most f/a's over the last three years?
Was it a carrier with Unionized F/A's
or 
Delta?
 
I think we know the answer to this.

 

[700UW]

And what airline has three different pay scales for flight attendants doing the same job?

What airline gives certain flight attendants a 2%,3%, or 4% raise instead of giving them all the same percentage increase?

Its not a unionized airline.

 

[BABABOOY]

Where are you getting three different pay scales?
 
 
A Glimpse Ahead to 2015....




 



 
 

 




[SIZE=9pt]Plans to hire close to 2,000 new flight attendants in 2015 with the first class beginning training on Jan. 9 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]January [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]CQ training pay will increase from 3:45 hours to 4:45 hours[/SIZE]
 







[SIZE=11pt]February [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Pay out of remaining percentage of 2014 profit sharing - expected to be biggest ever [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]April [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Minimum Duty Period Credit will apply to deadhead-only[/SIZE]



[SIZE=9pt]duty periods
Base pay will increase 4% at the top of the scale and 3% at other steps in the scale [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Domestic Flight Leader pay premium will increase from $2.70 per hour to $3.20 per hour
Purser A pay premiums will increase from $5.40 per hour to $5.65 per hour [/SIZE]

 

[WorldTraveler]

700
if you think that simply stating something makes it a fact, it is no wonder that the IAM continually comes up short.

You and Kev and dawg have called me a fraud but it is only a figment in your imagination.

IN reality, it is you and dawg and robbed who are calling names. Kev is in a different class.

I have nothing against Kev. He just is an idealist with whom I don't believe in his ideals. Given that his ideals impact the lives of other people I have to speak out.

If Kev's ideals were teaching sports to little kids and helping widows and orphans, I'd nominate him for the highest award in the land.

Kev and you are cut from a totally different piece of fabric. As much as you would like to think he is just like you, the world knows better.

You, however, don't know how to do anything except stick your nose into everything that pertains to other people.

and I have been harping on the fact that DL is adding jobs for its own people, something that AA and UA's FA contracts aren't doing.

All of the union contracts in the world do nothing if the company keeps shrinking the mainline operation - which is what AA and UA have been doing for years.

AA lived the first year in the honeymoon phase of the merger.

with pilot and FA contracts in hand, unit revenues falling, and pilot and FA costs rising, AA is doing exactly as most of us outside of AA expected AA to do which is to shrink their workforce even if by attrition and shift jobs to regional carriers.

You celebrate double digit increases in pay and think it is a great accomplishment for labor. mgmt. sees those cost increases as costs that have to be paid and which must be matched by higher revenues - which AA is not generating.

in a couple years, we can look back and see who has protected more jobs and who has grown their network.

I am certain that the answer will be strongly in favor of DL and its people.

who will still be making more than AÁ and UA's more unionized workforces.

 

[townpete]

 
Update from Kip:

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 You gotta love Karma.
 
Life is like a hockey game. Sometimes when you act like an idiot, you get cross checked. 

 

[700UW]

World Fraudster your are lying again.
 
AA is hiring FAs and the UA and CO have allowed UA FAs to work as CO's FAs as the unions agreed to let them move over until they have a JCBA so no one would get laid off unless they wanted too.
 
Hey you dont work for DL nor AA, nor WN, nor UA, nor US and yet you infect the  WHOLE forum with your cancer.

You really need to return to reality, you left DL you let them pay you off to leave and now you regret it so you sit on a computer as the self appointed cheerleader for DL.
 
Go seek some professional help.

 

[WorldTraveler]

i didn't say that AA and UA aren't hiring
I said that DL is adding capacity

The only fraud comes from those who can't follow the questions being asked

 

[700UW]

You mean like how Diamondcutter and others have asked to cost out DL's FAs total compensation work rules etc vs AA's?
 
Been like two months now.