Kev3188
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Bostock's uncle is on the B.O.D....700UW said:
Must make for some interesting Thanksgiving dinners...
Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.
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Must make for some interesting Thanksgiving dinners...
BABABOOY said:
And those were 800 jobs brought in, so the IAM was successful in limiting the impact and saved 12 out of the 28 stations from being outsourced and saved even more jobs.
Dont let the facts get in your way.
Rest, According to the IAM
Winter IROPs are never pleasant, and I'm sure some flight attendants had minimum rest of 8.5 hours behind the door. I bet a few were not too pleased about that.
However, would you rather have a minimum rest layover of 8 hours and 30 minutes behind the door, or 8 hours and 45 minutes block-in to block-out at a layover station?
8 hours and 45 minutes block-in to block-out means that once the breaks are put on at the gate, your layover starts, and it can end 8 hours and 45 minutes later, when the breaks are released for departure. That means your "minimum rest" includes:
Who has the better track record: Delta offering 8.5 behind the door or the IAM with 8:45 block-in to block-out?
The answer is clear: 8.5 behind the door at Delta is far superior than what the IAM has negotiated at Continental, ExpressJet, and CommutAir. All three contracts have minimum rest at layover stations of 8:45 block-in to block-out. Guaranteed rest behind the door is not negotiated in any IAM FA contract!
Jared LePage
Be Delta. Be Different.
Winter IROPs are never pleasant, and I'm sure some flight attendants had minimum rest of 8.5 hours behind the door. I bet a few were not too pleased about that.
However, would you rather have a minimum rest layover of 8 hours and 30 minutes behind the door, or 8 hours and 45 minutes block-in to block-out at a layover station?
8 hours and 45 minutes block-in to block-out means that once the breaks are put on at the gate, your layover starts, and it can end 8 hours and 45 minutes later, when the breaks are released for departure. That means your "minimum rest" includes:
- Opening the door
- Deplaning
- Exiting the airport
- Waiting for the hotel shuttle
- Getting to the hotel
- Getting to your room
- Sleeping
- Getting ready
- Taking the shuttle back to the airport
- Security/KCM
- Getting to the gate
- Boarding
- Closing the door
- ...and brakes released
Who has the better track record: Delta offering 8.5 behind the door or the IAM with 8:45 block-in to block-out?
The answer is clear: 8.5 behind the door at Delta is far superior than what the IAM has negotiated at Continental, ExpressJet, and CommutAir. All three contracts have minimum rest at layover stations of 8:45 block-in to block-out. Guaranteed rest behind the door is not negotiated in any IAM FA contract!
- IAM Contract, Continental (Page 5-9)
- IAM Contract, ExpressJet (Page 32)
- IAM Contract, CommutAir (Page 25)
Jared LePage
Be Delta. Be Different.
From
http://wearedeltafa.com/xjt_iam_survey
Flight Attendants Rate IAM
We have obtained the results of a survey of ExpressJet flight attendants conducted in September-October 2013. The survey asked flight attendants to rate their union, the IAM, in several different categories.
The results were surprisingly negative.
Click here to see for yourself.
http://wearedeltafa.com/xjt_iam_survey
Flight Attendants Rate IAM
We have obtained the results of a survey of ExpressJet flight attendants conducted in September-October 2013. The survey asked flight attendants to rate their union, the IAM, in several different categories.
The results were surprisingly negative.
Click here to see for yourself.
IAM A Sore Loser
You've probably heard a lot about laboratory conditions, but did you ever wonder why companies like Delta have to take them so seriously? The reason is that unions have a history of filing Election Interference Charges whenever they lose an election, and the IAM is no different. In these cases, something as simple as posting a hyperlink to the official NMB voting page can be brought up as an interference charge, so employers have the be very careful when dealing with organization attempts.
Here are 5 cases that the IAM has brought against companies over the past 5 years:
IAM Charges United AND AFA
You've probably heard a lot about laboratory conditions, but did you ever wonder why companies like Delta have to take them so seriously? The reason is that unions have a history of filing Election Interference Charges whenever they lose an election, and the IAM is no different. In these cases, something as simple as posting a hyperlink to the official NMB voting page can be brought up as an interference charge, so employers have the be very careful when dealing with organization attempts.
Here are 5 cases that the IAM has brought against companies over the past 5 years:
IAM Charges United AND AFA
- IAM alleged that AFA posted a hyperlink to the NMB's voting website in one of their newsletters, and that AFA held "voting parties".
- IAM also alleged that United showed a "significant bias" in favor of AFA
- The interference case was dismissed.
- IAM alleged that Delta should not have encouraged all of the employees to vote.
- IAM included a laundry list of other allegations as well.
- IAM asked the NMB to hold another election, and insisted that before this election Delta must remind all employees that they don't have to vote.
- The interference case was dismissed.
- In this case, most of the IAM's allegations against Delta are the same as the previous case.
- An additional allegation in this case was directed at the NMB itself for "failing to mail out duplicate voting instructions in a timely manner".
- The interference case was dismissed.
- This case, like the other cases against Delta, contained the same laundry list of IAM allegations.
- The interference case was dismissed.
- This is actually not an interference case, but we thought you might want to see an example of a voter eligibility appeal.
- In this particular case, the IAM filed an appeal just to prevent one employee from voting in the election.
- The appeal was denied.
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which goes to destroy the myth that DL crushes critical voices.
if it were the IAM, however, he would be brought up on charges of treason.
yes, Kevin, there is a Delta Difference.
it's called respect for dissenting opinions.
baba,
this highlights how much the IAM wants to only have the supporters vote.... they don't really want democracy.....
IAM Upset that Delta Asked All Employees to Vote
•IAM alleged that Delta should not have encouraged all of the employees to vote.
•IAM included a laundry list of other allegations as well.
•IAM asked the NMB to hold another election, and insisted that before this election Delta must remind all employees that they don't have to vote.
•The interference case was dismissed.
You are lying once again World Fraudster.WorldTraveler said:
Why do you keep posting lies and misinformation when you are shown to be wrong over and over?
District Lodge 141 current leadership were ALL DISSENTING VOICES, they werent tried, they ran for office and won.
Treason?
Sorry your lying again, only the US Federal Government can charge someone with treason.
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the only FRAUD is you who can't admit that the IAM can charge a member for voicing a dissenting opinion but no such thing exists at DL or in just about any other organization in the US.
There aren't too many organizations like the IAM that will move to punish dissenting opinion.
Any DL employee who thinks that is an improvement is not playing with a full deck.
There aren't too many organizations like the IAM that will move to punish dissenting opinion.
Any DL employee who thinks that is an improvement is not playing with a full deck.
Your lying again, I gave you a specific example, and you become the drama queen and call it treason.WorldTraveler said:
You are truly clueless.
So let me ask you this again since you failed to answer it just like you ALWAYS do when you are shown to be wrong.
So what to you call what Delta did to Kip Hodges?
Even after the State of MN declared DL was wrong and he didnt violate DL Police.
Kev3188
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What is punish a dissenting opinion, Alex...700UW said:
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