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When you're an At Will employee, it means taking on a company alone. That's a daunting prospect for a lot of people, and companies know it.
Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.
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yeah tell us how Kip's case is progressing.
You see EVERY EMPLOYEE and EVERY COMPANY has certain rights and responsibilities and there has yet to be any judge rule so far as we have heard that DL overstepped its legal authority or that the employee did not.
you can make charges of retaliation if you want but when it has been repeatedly demonstrated that DL has policies that have stood up in court and someone gets in trouble because they intentionally chose to ignore those policies, then you can't call it retaliation any more than it is receiving exactly what you had coming.
it is also completely wrong that being at-will is daunting as a standalone employee. There are thousands of DL employees who have expressed support and participated in organizing activities and they have not lost their jobs or been punished. There are policies and processes for effecting change in society whether it involves changing the speed limit or public school policies. Those who choose to work outside of the system will pay the price.
and making up downright lies such as that mgmt. or unionized pilots get benefits which are intentionally withheld from other workgroups is indeed precisely why the union movement has made no traction at DL and instead suffered one setback after another including the loss of tens of thousands of PMNW union memberships.
You see EVERY EMPLOYEE and EVERY COMPANY has certain rights and responsibilities and there has yet to be any judge rule so far as we have heard that DL overstepped its legal authority or that the employee did not.
you can make charges of retaliation if you want but when it has been repeatedly demonstrated that DL has policies that have stood up in court and someone gets in trouble because they intentionally chose to ignore those policies, then you can't call it retaliation any more than it is receiving exactly what you had coming.
it is also completely wrong that being at-will is daunting as a standalone employee. There are thousands of DL employees who have expressed support and participated in organizing activities and they have not lost their jobs or been punished. There are policies and processes for effecting change in society whether it involves changing the speed limit or public school policies. Those who choose to work outside of the system will pay the price.
and making up downright lies such as that mgmt. or unionized pilots get benefits which are intentionally withheld from other workgroups is indeed precisely why the union movement has made no traction at DL and instead suffered one setback after another including the loss of tens of thousands of PMNW union memberships.
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what do they ask Kevin?
Let's also keep in mind that more of DL's workforce has been in a union at one point in their career than not which says a lot that the GRASSROOTS majority of non-pilot employees have chosen not to be represented by unions.
tens of thousands of DL employees have managed to work within a system that has worked very well for them.
Let's also keep in mind that more of DL's workforce has been in a union at one point in their career than not which says a lot that the GRASSROOTS majority of non-pilot employees have chosen not to be represented by unions.
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paying them off?
If someone is settling lawsuits with DL, then there is very likely no admission that DL did anything wrong.
both parties are willing to drop the case in return for some level of compensation... since they were employees, there was some expectation of future earnings.
DL doesn't have to admit guilt in order to provide payment.
so, has Kip settled or not?
If someone is settling lawsuits with DL, then there is very likely no admission that DL did anything wrong.
both parties are willing to drop the case in return for some level of compensation... since they were employees, there was some expectation of future earnings.
DL doesn't have to admit guilt in order to provide payment.
so, has Kip settled or not?
Of course they pay them off so DL won't have to be portrayed in a bad way when the facts come out, so pay them off for their slience.
Kip has stated they are in settlement talks and almost complete, because he has the backing of the IAM and DL doesnt want it to go to trial.
Kip has stated they are in settlement talks and almost complete, because he has the backing of the IAM and DL doesnt want it to go to trial.
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again, if he accepts payment and DL admits no fault, there is nothing you or he can use as the basis for arguing that DL has done anything wrong - and the IAM certainly has absolutely no influence in those negotiations.
If the IAM backs what he is doing with seeking a settlement with no admission of guilt on either side, what does that say about their ability to get a union in?
If the IAM backs what he is doing with seeking a settlement with no admission of guilt on either side, what does that say about their ability to get a union in?
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He has stated that he is very satisfied with both the progress and direction of his case...700UW said:
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If it's an "open door" policy, why do they always try to close the door behind you?
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No, 700, DL didn't PROMISE anybody any profit sharing.
Further, DL was prohibited from including PMNW personnel in DL compensation plans until the representation process had been completed.
The unions actually DELAYED the integration process which cost PMNW personnel money.
those are the facts, not the union propaganda which you have posted above.
how about you and the IAM instead tell us why DL's predominantly non-union workforce and its pilots -who have nothing to do with the IAM - have the richest profit sharing program in the history of aviation and one of the richest in American industry?
I'll tell you why.
because it is easier for you and the IAM to throw stones at those who have achieved the success that the IAM gave away than to admit that DL had a better sense of what would benefit its people and provided it to them than the unions did.
FWIW, I would strongly bet that any attempts at reducing profit sharing even for the pilots is dead. DALPA's complete leadership failure to hear its members on a number of issues - of which profit sharing was just one - has led to their removal. DL and the rest of the industry will rack up growing profits for the next several years. There is no way that any employee group would trade growing profit sharing for anything unless it is worth much more.
DL might have had an opportunity to restructure profit sharing but there won't be another TA for quite some time and in that time DL's profits will continue to grow.
Let DL people reap the fruits of a very strong industry.
The common thread between AA and DL is that no one at either company has had anything to do with the drop in the price of oil. The difference is that DL's leadership is not so brazen as to say that DL people had nothing to do with events like that so shouldn't share in the profit sharing. IN fact, just the opposite. DL structured its profit sharing so that employees gain profit sharing even when the company takes losses on hedges - which was a mgmt. decision.
Your little speech about redistribution of wealth is the height of hypocrisy given that Parker is cashing multi-million checks for gains on stock options which are heavily related to the drop in the price of oil but not only do AA employees not benefit but Parker didn't have anything to do with the drop in the price of oil either but he is the first one to the feeding trough.
the height of hypocrisy in what the IAM says provides all the reason in the world why DL employees repeatedly have rejected the IAM.
Further, DL was prohibited from including PMNW personnel in DL compensation plans until the representation process had been completed.
The unions actually DELAYED the integration process which cost PMNW personnel money.
those are the facts, not the union propaganda which you have posted above.
how about you and the IAM instead tell us why DL's predominantly non-union workforce and its pilots -who have nothing to do with the IAM - have the richest profit sharing program in the history of aviation and one of the richest in American industry?
I'll tell you why.
because it is easier for you and the IAM to throw stones at those who have achieved the success that the IAM gave away than to admit that DL had a better sense of what would benefit its people and provided it to them than the unions did.
FWIW, I would strongly bet that any attempts at reducing profit sharing even for the pilots is dead. DALPA's complete leadership failure to hear its members on a number of issues - of which profit sharing was just one - has led to their removal. DL and the rest of the industry will rack up growing profits for the next several years. There is no way that any employee group would trade growing profit sharing for anything unless it is worth much more.
DL might have had an opportunity to restructure profit sharing but there won't be another TA for quite some time and in that time DL's profits will continue to grow.
Let DL people reap the fruits of a very strong industry.
The common thread between AA and DL is that no one at either company has had anything to do with the drop in the price of oil. The difference is that DL's leadership is not so brazen as to say that DL people had nothing to do with events like that so shouldn't share in the profit sharing. IN fact, just the opposite. DL structured its profit sharing so that employees gain profit sharing even when the company takes losses on hedges - which was a mgmt. decision.
Your little speech about redistribution of wealth is the height of hypocrisy given that Parker is cashing multi-million checks for gains on stock options which are heavily related to the drop in the price of oil but not only do AA employees not benefit but Parker didn't have anything to do with the drop in the price of oil either but he is the first one to the feeding trough.
the height of hypocrisy in what the IAM says provides all the reason in the world why DL employees repeatedly have rejected the IAM.
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