Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[WorldTraveler]

no the quote is from what YOU said.

you can't back it up.

I have repeatedly shown DOT numbers that validate my points.

 

[700UW]

No it doesn't you made the claim US doesn't schedule flights not to staff mainline ramp.

 

[WorldTraveler]

based on schedules for the month of Aug 2015, US has mainline operated domestic flights at an average of less than one per day in ABQ, ANC, DSM, and KOA.

are all of those cities staffed by US personnel?

in contrast, DL mainline has a single flight a day or less in 15 domestic cities plus STX.

You tell me whether DL has more flexibility and is able to send its aircraft to more places than US. The lists don't lie.

and DL still has more of its own personnel in more cities.

 

[700UW]

 

[WorldTraveler]

you forgot to answer these questions.

 

based on schedules for the month of Aug 2015, US has mainline operated domestic flights at an average of less than one per day in ABQ, ANC, DSM, and KOA.

are all of those cities staffed by US personnel?

in contrast, DL mainline has a single flight a day or less in 15 domestic cities plus STX.

You tell me whether DL has more flexibility and is able to send its aircraft to more places than US. The lists don't lie.

and DL still has more of its own personnel in more cities.

 

[Kev3188]

IAM sure that once representation is (re)secured, Anderson will be happy to treat the groups with the professional respect they deserve.

 

[700UW]

You claimed US only schedules less than one mainline flight per day to avoid staffing it, still waiting for the proof of this conspiracy not to have more outstations staffed with mainline ramp.
 
PMAA has 13 stations PMUS has about 35, and PMDL had only 12 stations while PMNW had over 40 on its own.

 

[700UW]

The new AA will have 50 stations, 37 are PMUS and 13 are PMAA.
 
So does DL have mainline ramp in 50 stations?

 

[WorldTraveler]

and we're supposed to believe you are honest when the tune changes in one hour over the weekend?
 
and math clearly isn't one of your strengths?
 

You claimed US only schedules less than one mainline flight per day to avoid staffing it, still waiting for the proof of this conspiracy not to have more outstations staffed with mainline ramp.
 
PMAA has 13 stations PMUS has about 35, and PMDL had only 12 stations while PMNW had over 40 on its own.

 
 

The new AA will have 50 stations, 37 are PMUS and 13 are PMAA.
 
So does DL have mainline ramp in 50 stations?

and those four cities with an average of one daily flight for US right now?

and the biggest example of what the IAM has done for its represented rampers is at UA where UA with the IAM's permission is engaging in a wholesale program of outsourcing of cities and 700 endorses because the members voted for it.


Kevin,
Feel free to hang on your own definition of respect but your coworkers feel far more respected than your peers at other airlines - which explains why your pay even without you sensing that respect - has grown faster and higher than any other unionized workgroup in the industry.

You did see the comparison of AA and DL maintenance compensation within the last few days with the
acknowledgement by AA people that DL mechanics are doing pretty ok in comparison, didn't you?

this site is THE BEST advertisement for why unions have failed their people and why DL people's direct relationship has yielded a far better solution.

keep it going... I send all my pro-union DL friends here.

It rarely takes more than a few days of reading this site before most come away convinced of their need to repent from their union-seeking ways.

 

[700UW]

Because I looked up each city on the IAM/TWU list and it shows, 13 for PMAA and 37 for PMUS, the information is in the station agreement between the IAM and TWU.
 
So still waiting for proof that US doesnt schedule mainline flights to avoid staffing the station, you made the claim so back it up.
 
Last time I checked this is about Fleet and FAs.
 
But lets compare scope language from US and AA to Delta, how about US to DL in pension and insurance?
 
So does DL have mainline ramp in 50 cities?
 
Come and answer it, as you clearly avoided it as you know the combined US/AA has more mainline stations than DL, so that blows your argument out of the water.

 

[WorldTraveler]

are the 4 cities staffed with US mainline employees or not?

other than your shifting math, that's all you need to address

 

[700UW]

I gave you 50 stations.
 
I want to see proof, you claimed US doesnt schedule mainline flights of 7 per week to avoid staffing, where is the proof?
 
And does DL have 50 mainline ramp stations like the new AA has?

 

[Kev3188]

No, we do not.

BTW, were any of those cities mentioned earlier existing points for PMUS ramp at the time the scope language was written?

No?

Then this latest little exercise has to be seen as nothing more than a deliberate attempt to derail the discussion.

 

[700UW]

No they were not.
 
So his argument about DL having more, is incorrect.
 
PMAA has 13 mainline staffed ramp cities, while PMUS has 37 mainline cities.
 
And the PMUS CBA was negotiated AFTER the UA agreement.

 

[700UW]