Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[robbedagain]

Wt i personally dont worry bout what any airline let alone dl or even mine do just as long as i collect my paycheck every 2 weeks. My point is you down every airline for doing similar to what dl does. Ive also said dl does good but we all are waiting for u to list just some wrong things dl does.. ill start how bout them closing MEM cargo

 

[WorldTraveler]

robbed,
I talk about the issues that affect the BUSINESS of aviation.

it should not surprise you that the airline that most recently emerged from BK and the one that had the lowest paid employees in the industry and the most overhubbed network would not get the same kudos as an airline that is the highest market capitalization in the western world or one that has been profitable for longer than practically any airline in the world (WN) or one that has managed to maintain some of the lowest costs among US jet carriers that are decades old (AS)

I have indeed noted MANY times what AA and US do well but they are simply not going to receive accolades for what they do that does not generate financial returns that AS, DL, and WN are doing.

the airline industry is a FOR PROFIT business. When the companies in it cannot show that what they are doing translates into profits or that the way the company is run is anything but best in class, then they should expect to be held accountable for why that is.

if your daddy never prepared you for the world that very much compares you and your performance to others, then I am sorry you are having to discover that reality now.

dawg,
I'm not sure what UA has left for res offices but I still think that DL has closed less of them that other carriers - but a side by list of what has been closed and what remains for each airline would be helpful.

and regarding maintenance, the simple fact is that US airline mgmt. teams sees unionized labor as a risk which is why DL has no problem insourcing but other airline mgmt. does not.

insourcing requires INCREASING staffing compared to what would otherwise would be necessary o serve maintenance needs. DL sees its maintenance capabilities as an asset which it could sell and it does - and uses the profits from MRO sales to offset DL's own costs.

AA and UA have just as great of an ability to do what DL is doing but they don't.

and the exact same principle applies to why DL has more stations and cargo facilities and res offices with its own employees....labor stability translates into more work.

 

[Kev3188]

I assume DL uses Air General at most other domestic locations.

Josh

DL has no shortage of 3rd party providers- which is why I have to laugh when they practically spit that term when referring to the IAM...
 
 

Kev do u know if DGS is still in ORF? They took over i believe in 94 or 95?

Yes.

 

[737823]

DL has no shortage of 3rd party providers- which is why I have to laugh when they practically spit that term when referring to the IAM...  Yes.

Is Ford & Harrison in the category of third parties? It's well known DL has numerous consulting firms on the property at any given time as well. But what you fail to recognize is the IAM isn't a vendor/contractor providing service it's an unneeded intermediary that only seeks dues to subsidize it's large scale membership loss over the past 20 years. Yes for you the IAM organizing DL would be victorious but even if all DL workgroupd except pilots joined (like TWA) they would still have hundreds of thousands of fewer members and be in a much weaker position. Back in the day employers both respected and feared the IAM for militant action. That is no longer the case as their leadership has demonstrated time and time again.

Josh

 

[Kev3188]

Is Ford & Harrison in the category of third parties?

Why wouldn't they be? Same with ANH, Kulture (yes, with a K) LLC, etc.

It's a long list even when you don't include "union avoidance" firms.

But what you fail to recognize...

No.

What you fail to recognize is the irony in touting literal 3rd party firms while denouncing an organization made up of actual employees. Tell ya what; try and find an example of DL dismissing ALPA or PAFCA as "3rd parties." Let us know when you do...

 

[robbedagain]

Thx kev.. wt my dad more than prepped me for the aviation world ur one pathetic POS u sure as hell must of been one big arse embarrassment to work along side with im glad never to have met u let alone having to work w u. U really think u know it all but in reality its u that needs help

 

[WorldTraveler]

good thing your dad prepared you for the world.

perhaps you yourself can explain why you have such a hard time hearing good news about someone else.

careful with that argument, Kev, about actual employees vs. 3rd party.

that is precisely why DL has an advantage over its peers in a number of work categories where DL ha s its own employees in more locations than DL's peer airlines.

 

[737823]

Thx kev.. wt my dad more than prepped me for the aviation world ur one pathetic POS u sure as hell must of been one big arse embarrassment to work along side with im glad never to have met u let alone having to work w u. U really think u know it all but in reality its u that needs help

Robbed didnf you say your Dad enjoyed his career at DL and liked being unorganized but you two disagree on this.

Josh

 

[robbedagain]

I did say he enjoyed it and he was one of the more lenient mgmt unlike wt

 

[700UW]

 

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[737823]

Let's see Alaska is solidly profitable and has been for years yet the IAM only has ramp and COPS at a small handful of stations.
 
USAIR has been posting record profits for years yet you still use the tired excuse of bankruptcy from eight years, they just negotiated a new agreement that left them at the bottom of the industry.
 
United will only have seven stations at the end of the current agreement with unlimited part-time, unlimited split shifts and temporary employees.
 
Let's see what the IAM delivers for the Spirit employees (at a small handful of locations) before jumping to conclusions of what they will deliver at DL. 
 
Their track record speaks for itself.  
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

 

[737823]

Alaska preamble: 
 

 
1 COPS Guiding Principles 
2 
3 Alaska Airlines’ COPS employees have earned a decades-long 
4 reputation for distinctive, industry-leading customer service. In order 
5 for us to continue to outpace our competition in this rapidly changing 
6 industry, we must strive everyday to provide a safe and reliable 
7 operation as well as a great experience for our passengers. We 
8 recognize that having our COPS employees enthusiastically engaged 
9 is critical for our future success.
10 
11 The IAMAW and Alaska Airlines management recognize that an 
12 effective partnership, based on mutual respect and trust, will improve 
13 the long term profitability and competitiveness of Alaska Airlines and 
14 is beneficial to the COPS group. In order to take full advantage of all 
15 opportunities, labor and management must embrace collaboration as 
16 the means to build an innovative and effective team- a team fully 
17 focused on the future.
18 
19 Alaska Airlines COPS employees should be well compensated and 
20 enjoy a high standard of living and job security. In order to make our 
21 career a continued success in this intensely competitive industry, we 
22 all must be committed to constantly making our business stronger 
23 and more successful.

 

 
 
 


ALASKA AIRLINES' STORY


 


Alaska Airlines is one of the most respected names in aviation and flies throughout its namesake state and the Lower 48, as well as to Hawaii, Canada and Mexico. Our roots date to 1932 and are symbolized by the Eskimo painted on the tails of our aircraft. Guided by what we call the "Alaska Spirit", we pride ourselves on providing a lifeline to remote communities while delivering renowned service to everyone we fly. This commitment has brought us national and international recognition: Alaska has ranked "highest in customer satisfaction among traditional network carriers" in J.D. Power and Associates' North America Airline Satisfaction Study for the past SEVEN years. We've also been honored with a variety of awards by readers of Travel + Leisure, Conde Nast Traveler, USA Today and others. Alaska is the dominant West Coast airline and, together with its sister carrier Horizon Air, flies to more than 90 destinations. The two airlines are subsidiaries of Alaska Air Group Inc. (NYSE:ALK) with annual revenues exceeding $4 billion. 
.



 

POSITION INFORMATION


 


KEY RESPONSIBILITIES 
- Responsible for assisting customers with travel needs such as answering inquiries, ticketing, checking-in passengers, and boarding flights in a fast-paced environment 
- Sell tickets and ensure cabin accommodations 
- Perform computer and paperwork tasks 
- Evaluate and prepare flights by arranging seat assignments and load, coordinate special meals, and upgrades 
- Perform boarding and gate duties, such as checking flight tickets, assisting and directing passengers, making announcements, checking aircraft, and confirming cabin security 
- Processing and securing passenger luggage 
- May be assigned to perform duties in varying capacities, at the direction of management to ensure complete customer satisfaction 
- Other duties as assigned 
- Embody the Alaska Spirit and conduct oneself with Professionalism, Integrity, Resourcefulness, and Caring 

QUALIFICATIONS 
- High school diploma or equivalent required 
- Must be at least 18 years old 
- Must be authorized to work in the U.S. 
- Two years of customer service or community service experience required 
- Possess excellent communication skills (both verbal and written) 
- Possess exceptional interpersonal skills 
- Type at least 25 WPM required 
- Flexible to work varied shifts, weekends, holidays required 
- Able to participate in paid training required 
- Able to accept a starting pay of $11.69 per hour (may vary depending on location) required 
- Able to learn and operate a computerized reservation system 
- Able to adapt to performing work according to set procedures 
- Able to anticipate needs of others in a fast paced environment



 

THE LOCATION


 


The location for this position is in Seattle, Washington

 
 
What a joke $11.69/hour will not provide a high standard of living. This now passes as a good union job?  How do AS employees have job security if the vast majority of their airports are vendored out?
 
Josh