Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[WorldTraveler]

well, yes, DL employees DO care because they get profit sharing.

DL employees get a HELLUVA lot more profit sharing than their peers at AA and US.

If you'd like to compare what Richard Anderson gets compared to Parker and Horton's crowd, we can go there but I can absolutely assure you that you will lose any argument in which you try to argue that DL execs got more in the last year than AA/US execs did.

wanna go there, son?

And the only change that DL employees have had regarding profit sharing is increasing amounts year after year after year - while AA and US unions decided to walk away from it.

If you are so worried about profit sharing, why didn't your union reps get that message.

file a grievance on that too?

 

[metopower]

Sorry Robb...I get the same percentage as everyone that works at DL...

 

[Kev3188]

Sorry Robb...I get the same percentage as everyone that works at DL...

 
Yes you do. However, the amount of that check is significantly larger than anyone else involved with your flight(s).
 
And of course, your PS payout is contractual; something only you & your dispatcher get to enjoy. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

uh.... the pay for what Meto does commands a larger paycheck. Why don't you ask him if he supports your idea of giving every DL employee the exact same dollar amount even though there are significant differences in your base pay.

Did you pow wow with the ALPA bigwigs and find out what they thought of your idea?

and feel free to hang onto the "you have a contract" even though you get the EXACT same percentage.

your peers are NOT motivated by any need to pay to get a contract that other airlines have ignored outside of BK and torn up in BK and yet DL people still get the same or better deal regardless of a contract.

 

[metopower]

 
Yes you do. However, the amount of that check is significantly larger than anyone else involved with your flight(s).
 
And of course, your PS payout is contractual; something only you & your dispatcher get to enjoy. 

same percentage as everyone at DL period,Contract or no. Period.

 

[Kev3188]

Equal percentage? Sure. But it's also a check that can several orders of magnitude larger than some of the other people working your flights.

Some people are more equal than others.

It is what it is. You might as well own it.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

well, yes, DL employees DO care because they get profit sharing.

DL employees get a HELLUVA lot more profit sharing than their peers at AA and US.

If you'd like to compare what Richard Anderson gets compared to Parker and Horton's crowd, we can go there but I can absolutely assure you that you will lose any argument in which you try to argue that DL execs got more in the last year than AA/US execs did.

wanna go there, son?

And the only change that DL employees have had regarding profit sharing is increasing amounts year after year after year - while AA and US unions decided to walk away from it.

If you are so worried about profit sharing, why didn't your union reps get that message.

file a grievance on that too?

 
Uh, not really sport. After the government's cut, I imagine it is the IRS bean counters that get the most excited about PS checks-- unless one opts to have it put into their 401k, in which case the increased wages and my contractually-maded company contribution (note I said contribution, not match) more than make up for it

 

[WorldTraveler]

you clearly don't understand the tax code.

The US has no personal income tax rate above 50% which means that it does make sense to work more in order to gain more.

further, most airline employees are far from in the top tax brackets which means that whatever profit sharing you get is factored into your tax rate for the entire year even if it is withheld at a higher rate when it is disbursed.

Most people who get profit sharing either get significant refunds or have changed their withholding on their regular checks to be lower than what it would otherwise be so that their taxes are paid most heavily out of their profit sharing.

Yes, profit sharing does indeed pay and the fact that you and your AA buds don't have it says volumes about your understanding of what is involved in gaining increased competition.

after all, WN has used it as part of its competition philosophy for years to make its employees some of the best compensated airline employees in the US.

 

[700UW]

 

[metopower]

Equal percentage? Sure. But it's also a check that can several orders of magnitude larger than some of the other people working your flights.Some people are more equal than others.It is what it is. You might as well own it.

I do. The fairest way that I can see.

 

[southwind]

Equal percentage? Sure. But it's also a check that can several orders of magnitude larger than some of the other people working your flights.

Some people are more equal than others.

It is what it is. You might as well own it.

Right! The guy that's been employed for 2 months should be receiving the same amount as the guy who's been here 20 years!

 

[southwind]

Put in an application at SW.
 
When's the vote?

 

[robbedagain]

well, yes, DL employees DO care because they get profit sharing.

DL employees get a HELLUVA lot more profit sharing than their peers at AA and US.

If you'd like to compare what Richard Anderson gets compared to Parker and Horton's crowd, we can go there but I can absolutely assure you that you will lose any argument in which you try to argue that DL execs got more in the last year than AA/US execs did.

wanna go there, son?

And the only change that DL employees have had regarding profit sharing is increasing amounts year after year after year - while AA and US unions decided to walk away from it.

If you are so worried about profit sharing, why didn't your union reps get that message.

file a grievance on that too?

DO NOT CALL ME YOUR SON BEC THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD EVER BE UR SON.   not worried bout ps  just simply stating the facts as has KEV that DL can and will do as it pleases w anything and everything to all employee groups except for the Pilots n Dispatchers when it comes to PS   Kev  even stated he got a measley 2 or 3% compared to around 15 to 20% the pilots and dispatchers got   It was in the papers too

 

[700UW]

And dont forget DL reduced the profit sharing by 33%, from 15% to 10%, did DL's non-union employees negotiate that, vote on it?

 

[southwind]

If DL were unionized, prolly wouldn't be "Any" PS!