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737823 said:
The CWA really got screwed here. Had they not agreed to this BS Association with America West they would represent everyone at the combined AA. PMUS was much larger than PMHP why did they agree to the association and would have represented everyone? John John said you were critical of the CWA-IBT alliance but now support the IAM-TWU alliamce.

Josh
Once again you have no clue what happened.
 
US threatened the CWA and IBT with making the members vote between the CWA and IBT, that is why they agreed to an association and brought the former HP Agents up to US pay and benefits which was much more.
 
Once again, dont let the facts get in your way.
 
737823 said:
And the IAM can increase at any time. Why have the executive council salary increases exceeded the increases IAM members earn through their CBAs? Why is Andrew Buffenbarger who NEVER worked in an IAM shop has a cushy job working for his Dad making nearly $200k? What did he do to earn that job? Why should BABA's dues sustain his cushy lifestyle?

Josh
They cannot increase them at anytime,wrong.
 
Dues are reviewed yearly and its always two times the weighted hourly wage.
 
And the members vote on any changes to the IAM Constitution that effects dues at the Grand Lodge Convention and they vote on their local lodge bylaws on how their dues are calculated.
 
Once again the members have the power and the democratic right to vote.
 
Unlike you are isnt a DL FA and have no dog in the fight, right?
 
LOL.
 
700UW said:
Once again you have no clue what happened.
 
US threatened the CWA and IBT with making the members vote between the CWA and IBT, that is why they agreed to an association and brought the former HP Agents up to US pay and benefits which was much more.
 
Once again, dont let the facts get in your way.
Could AA do the same to the IAM and TWU then both fleet and M&R could possibly become unorganized? Given the clear displeasure for both unions on both sides its a clear possibility. Truthfully im most upset we don't get to see the IAM spin from you had there been a runoff election.

Josh
 
700UW said:
They cannot increase them at anytime,wrong.
 
Dues are reviewed yearly and its always two times the weighted hourly wage.
 
And the members vote on any changes to the IAM Constitution that effects dues at the Grand Lodge Convention and they vote on their local lodge bylaws on how their dues are calculated.
 
Once again the members have the power and the democratic right to vote.
 
Unlike you are isnt a DL FA and have no dog in the fight, right?
 
LOL.
So every IAM member voted to hire Andy Buffenbarger? And Sitos brother? And voted to keep two ex-TWA workers on the executive council who haven't actively worked in the industry for more than 20 years?

Josh
 
BABA can always file to be a union dues objector   when (or if) the IAM is officially elected in the voting.  (hopefully they will become the union representing)   but by being a union dues objector wont get all of the same benefits that union paying folks get.  
 
As for CWA  josh can you explain why CWA has been able to keep all PMUS cities mainline   then compare it to TWU at AA    then compare it to nonunion DL.....   DL does not even keep all of the ramp mainline   whereas other air carriers do...   
 
737823 said:
Could AA do the same to the IAM and TWU then both fleet and M&R could possibly become unorganized? Given the clear displeasure for both unions on both sides its a clear possibility. Truthfully im most upset we don't get to see the IAM spin from you had there been a runoff election.

Josh
Nope, AA has already signed an agreement with the TWU/IAM agreeing to the Alliance.
 
Who cares if your upset, your a non-factor in the election, and your a fraud, come clean and tell the board that Gerry pays you.
 
737823 said:
So every IAM member voted to hire Andy Buffenbarger? And Sitos brother? And voted to keep two ex-TWA workers on the executive council who haven't actively worked in the industry for more than 20 years?

Josh
Do you vote on who your company employees?
 
And yes the members just voted last year to reelect Buffenbarger and Roach.

Your lying again!
 
Hey when did Harry Lombordo turn a wrench at AA or load or unload a plane?
 
No employee votes on who is a secretary?

Did the PMUS or PMAA vote on hiring Parker who is making millions?
 
Did they vote on paying Horton $20 milllion?
 
Nope, your grasping and desperate.
 
And the CWA NEVER represented anyone in the airlines before US CSA and RES.
 
Your are just a fecal stirrer who is dishonest with a hidden agenda.
 
700UW said:
Nope, AA has already signed an agreement with the TWU/IAM agreeing to the Alliance.
 
Who cares if your upset, your a non-factor in the election, and your a fraud, come clean and tell the board that Gerry pays you.
Not paid anything don't know who Gerry is. I have to get ready to leave for my dinner plans, later.

Josh
 
700UW said:
Do you vote on who your company employees?
 
And yes the members just voted last year to reelect Buffenbarger and Roach.

Your lying again!
 
Hey when did Harry Lombordo turn a wrench at AA or load or unload a plane?
 
No employee votes on who is a secretary?
Did the PMUS or PMAA vote on hiring Parker who is making millions?
 
Did they vote on paying Horton $20 milllion?
 
Nope, your grasping and desperate.
 
And the CWA NEVER represented anyone in the airlines before US CSA and RES.
 
Your are just a fecal stirrer who is dishonest with a hidden agenda.
Did Buffy ever work for the airlines? Does he even know about the industry?

Harry Lombardo is a much better leader and the TWU is a much stronger union, unlike the IAM they don't scab other unions, strip members of seniority & job protections and roll over for concessions.

TWU has industry leading agreements at many employers can't say the same at the IAM.

Josh
 
Buffy worked for General Electric building jet engines.
 
GVP Pantoja has work for TW and AA, every GVP from Transportation has come out of the airlines.
 
Dont let the facts get in your way.
 
737823 said:
Ramada and Best Western?
Is that really the best the IAM can do? Pretty pathetic given their vast resources.
Josh
If it were to be held at the for seasons you would be bit#hing about the waste on money they spend!!! Give it a rest , you have no dog in the fight !!! You have become in more creepy on this issue as a non airline emp. !! Seems you want so much inside info , catering trucks ect. Why is that?
 
diamondcutter said:
If it were to be held at the for seasons you would be bit#hing about the waste on money they spend!!! Give it a rest , you have no dog in the fight !!! You have become in more creepy on this issue as a non airline emp. !! Seems you want so much inside info , catering trucks ect. Why is that?
Never posted about catering trucks that would be 700 who keeps carrying on about that A330 that a vendor struck at his beloved CLT.

Josh
 
Kev3188 said:
 

Did you ask the same question of our employer regarding medical premiums prior to open enrollment?

How 'bout what percent of income our PS payout will be this year?
So, the answer in NO, we will not find out until after the vote.  Once again 700 in incorrect.
 
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