Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[700UW]

TY.
 
Doing well, thanks for asking going to the surgeon for a follow up.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Thanks! Hope you're healing up nicely. 🙂

I would go through it all again, but it'd be a waste of bandwidth. Some people are more interested in revisionist history than anything else, even when it means gaslighting those that actually lived through it...

Short version: We collectively came out much further ahead than we would've w/o an advocate in the courtroom. Period. Full stop. Also, IIRC, our "ask" wasn't affected one way or the other by what happened with AMFA.

no, it would be INACCURATE.

you can talk about how the ramp fared better than DL ramp and you would be accurate. I have never denied that.

but when AMFA took 5000 of the best paying ground jobs at NW down the drain, the IAM had an easy job.

and specific to FAs, DL FAs ended up better off before, during, and after BK.

The merger was the only factor that brought NW FAs up to DL FA levels.

and DOT data shows that DL rampers and ACS personnel (in the same DOT group) make more than their peers at AA or UA.

the data is simply not there to argue that DL people need a union in order to get to AA or UA levels - and DL employees are pulling down far larger pay and compensation increases than their peers at WN.

not sure of the maintenance that 699 (missing at least one card) referred to but if you have been recuperating, hope it is going well and you are back in the saddle fast and safe. You are a great man, Kev. Don't ever think that our sparring doesn't mean I don't have the utmost respect for you as a person.

btw, I spent a few hours myself under a general anesthesia also but didn't miss a beat here. 🙂

699 and I both do have that track record going for us.... we take only internet resistant anesthesia. 🙂

 

[700UW]

World Fraudster lies again

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, you wish I was lying but those are the facts.

DL employees overall and DL FAs fared better than their peers at NW.

that is fact and verifiable via DOT data.

unless you think the DOT Is in DL's back pocket... a charge I'm sure we will hear from you when WN is forced to accommodate DL on a longterm basis at DAL.

 

[diamondcutter]

no, you wish I was lying but those are the facts.DL employees overall and DL FAs fared better than their peers at NW.that is fact and verifiable via DOT data.unless you think the DOT Is in DL's back pocket... a charge I'm sure we will hear from you when WN is forced to accommodate DL on a longterm basis at DAL.

Whatever , no one cares what you post anymore! World fraudster

 

[metopower]

Oops...

An EM 190/195... A low cost aircraft that is flown by a pilot group desperate for any job for their pilots...usair. Note...inherited by AA and now gets a pay raise but not up to B717 also a 110 seat airplane. Side note nice aircraft . Not a EM 170/175 but looks like one.

 

[metopower]

Once again, United just going down the road Delta did pre-merger. 
 
IAM gave Delta its ramp back. But its stupid to point that out. 
 

lol. They make "great changes" if the company allows them too. You think Richard needs the EIG to tell him we wanted the 5th week back? Nah. You have a voice as long as its the voice the company allows you to have. EIG can propose a 40% increase in pay and it isn't going to happen. 
 

How is it working for DALPA? The ones you guys get to "me too" off of all the time? 
 

Of course Delta isn't going to put its FAs on DCI flights. That is my point. They good. they don't. 
So if they truly care about the group like you and baba say why are they not working the DCI flights? Why are were overahuling their engines in-house and other things but they FAs aren't getting any of that work....
 
 
 
Could be it because the FAs are just a number who live under DALPAs scope? 
 
and yes they 717 got jobs for pilots but you pissed away 70 aircraft worth of jobs down the river with the increase in scope. 
 

only that part. 9E doesn't have any CR7s they are all CR9s. 
 

They hire 100 when they could hire 200 and you are happy about that? 
er okay. 
 
I'm not complaining about the extra CR9/E75s. Thanks to DALPA we are getting more engine work. So thanks. 
 

Delta use to fly aircraft the size of E75s at mainline. NW even had the baby 9s well into the 2000s. 
 
So its been done before......
But deflect away onto what AA and UA are doing.

Dc9-10 was the first two engine two pilot airliner because it was under 100 seats. Then it grew to become the MD 90... 160 seats... Same type rating but really not the same airplane.
The DC 9 was a replacement for the Convair 440/580 and Martin 404. Basically the rj of its time until the small 18 pass commuters.
Don't buy your argument that because it's a connection carrier that should be my job. Under your thinking DL should have paper mills because they use paper. There has to be a point where some one decides it is not to the advantage to own that work. I'm satisfied but thanks for looking out for me.

 

[metopower]

I see World Fraudster is at it again.
 
What do you call 20 of these at the New AA, from PMUS and flown by mainline?
 

Chalk this up to another one of your lies and misinformed posts.[/quotel
Learn your aircraft types.....E 190..... Not flown by any of the major airlines until inherited by AA. Low cost option by usair.

 

[700UW]

Last time I checked US was the fifth largest airline before all the mergers and was a legacy and major airline.

Try again.
 
Are you becoming the pilot version of World Fraudster?
 
Keep up the lies and misinformation.
 
And US Air hasnt existed since 1998, its US Airways.

 

[metopower]

Last time I checked US was the fifth largest airline before all the mergers and was a legacy and major airline.

Try again.
 
Are you becoming the pilot version of World Fraudster?
 
Keep up the lies and misinformation.
 
And US Air hasnt existed since 1998, its US Airways.

Note...post #4221..
Who's number 4.. I thought usair was number 4

 

[700UW]

Who is US Air?

 

[robbedagain]

meto   don't the 717 hold 110 pax  just like the E190?  

 

[700UW]

UA, DL, NW, CO were all larger then US.
 
Answer this what Airline carries more domestic passengers than anyone?
 
Hint its not what is listed above.

 

[Kev3188]

meto   don't the 717 hold 110 pax  just like the E190?  

Correct. F12/Y98...

 

[robbedagain]

thanks kev..  our 190s are similar as well   theyre comfy to ride on but a real PIA to work as a ramper