Hello everyone

[Barfbag]

Two great airline - one great future.

We are all given hats, bags and pins at TWA when the so called merger/buyout/sellout was announced by AMR. We were made to beleive that it was for the better. We could hear the thud of bodies dropping ahead but we moved forward in line and in a orderly fashion. Those of us allowed off the line were given work and a payroll number...unique to only TWAers to remind us daily that we never belonged and never would. One AA trainer greeted one class by saying that we wouldn't last a week, and when we were finally deployed onto the tarmac, TWAers received the worst assignments. Some fell by the waste side, a few still remain today.

So now the tables have turned... Welcome to AA.

Complacency is an airline employee's worst enemy.

Good luck to all..

 

[Ms Tree]

Uggggh. You sound like the type of person who makes it hard for anyone to make a living in this industry, someone who works in it as a hobby and is only concerned about travel benefits. Is that what we have to look forward to with USAIR, crazy Daytrippers? Great, just great. How about trying needlpoint or doing charity work instead?

Impressive that you gleaned all that from one post. You truly are a nasty little bugger.

 

[Watdahail?]

Did you mean "non rev"? With 4 years, non revenue travel isn't going to be free.

How do you know?? On US it IS free, on AA it's not. The airlilne will be AA in name and HDQ location only..most likely policy/procedure will be US, which is good for everyone. Probably AA automation as it's more advanced.

 

[ContUNITEus]

How do you know?? On US it IS free, on AA it's not. The airlilne will be AA in name and HDQ location only..most likely policy/procedure will be US, which is good for everyone. Probably AA automation as it's more advanced.

I don't think so... It's gonna be the worst of both... That's what happened with US/HP.... they picked some of the bad things such as fees from whoever was charging before and implemented it in the combined benefits. AWA used to charge for some stuff that was free at US, such as parent travel. US used to charge for upgrades while AWA was free. Today, the combined bennies charge for upgrades and parents. There were some elements of the US bennies that were better than HP and some of HPs such as "first-come-first-serve" that were better on that side. The combined entity pulled the worst of both and combined them.

I can see the new AA keeping the less-than-5-year charge and implementing all the other fees as well. I believe that AA is still very lax on baggage for employees, but that will change with US, as they decided to start making a profit on its employees back in 2011.

 

[Bob Owens]

Impressive that you gleaned all that from one post. You truly are a nasty little bugger.

If you consider that nasty you have lived a very sheltered life. Wow, I gleaned that from one sentence! Then gin you came to your conclusion the same way. I think that's what known as "first impressions".

 

[Hackman]

If you consider that nasty you have lived a very sheltered life. Wow, I gleaned that from one sentence! Then gin you came to your conclusion the same way. I think that's what known as "first impessions".

What you have here Bob is the ultra liberal "victim" player. The "trees" that can't see the forest as it were. It/she/he can spew as much vile as required to maintain victim status. However, if anyone else does the same your a (insert derogatory term).It sucks there is another one that has arrived to deal with,

 

[Vortilon]

How do you know?? On US it IS free, on AA it's not. The airlilne will be AA in name and HDQ location only..most likely policy/procedure will be US, which is good for everyone. Probably AA automation as it's more advanced.

I was responding to post #1 on this thread. At AA, 4 years won't get an employee free travel. Policy & Procedure, well you can hope in one hand and shite in the other - we will see which one fills up first.

 

[Jager]

Hey ... You know what... Give this kid a break...

I remember, (barely), when I had 4 years with the airlines.. Back in the 80's it was by far the best damn job around.. I remember days that I'd almost work for free... Maybe it's coming full circle for the pups..

We are a weathered and beatin bunch, and have a percentage of vinegar running in our veins.. We've seen it all and it sucs.. Maybe is just time to take a step back and breathe...

 

[unionguy1]

Hey ... You know what... Give this kid a break...

I remember, (barely), when I had 4 years with the airlines.. Back in the 80's it was by far the best damn job around.. I remember days that I'd almost work for free... Maybe it's coming full circle for the pups..

We are a weathered and beatin bunch, and have a percentage of vinegar running in our veins.. We've seen it all and it sucs.. Maybe is just time to take a step back and breathe...

I agree with you. Give the kid a break. I also agree we are weathered bunch, but not beaten, maybe calloused. I've been employed with the airlines now for 34 years. Management is the same with each airline. Labor is always the cause of the Company's woes. Why management does not consider themselves a part of labor I don't know. They collect a paycheck the same as us. We at AA have heard about shared sacrifice but the Union sacrifice always seems much greater than everyone elses. With our Industrial Union not helping matters by giving up what our brothers and sisters of decades past worked so hard for it is no wonder why some are so bitter. With the card drives to replace our current Union maybe we once again can breath fresh air and have that rejuvinated spirit once again. I will be voting for AMFA. Amfa will not be the answer to all our problems but at least it will be a fresh start. I, for one, am ready that fresh start.

Kind Regards,
Harvey West

 

[Kev3188]

The fact is employee travel privileges aren't particularly valuable, its really small potatoes especially compared to other industries like higher education which offers free tuition (can be worth several hundred thousand per child), especially at the management level when you look at how much lower airline salaries are for comparable pay grades outside the industry.

A company offering an actual benefit (as opposed to a perk) that would foster employee investment in themselves? We should be so lucky! I'd swap my passes for tuition reimbursement in a NY minute...

But alas, we are routinely messaged that non-revving *is* the equivalent of winning the lottery, so on it goes...

 

[Ms Tree]

If you consider that nasty you have lived a very sheltered life. Wow, I gleaned that from one sentence! Then gin you came to your conclusion the same way. I think that's what known as "first impressions".

I've been reading your posts for over 10 years. I'm quite familiar with your attitude.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

What chance does AMFA have post merger? Please treat this as a legitimate question and not a negative statement.

 

[Toothy Grin]

My god! Where were you educated? Your grammar is atrocious and I can barely make sense of what you write. Seriously, quit the airline and go back to school, preferably, not the school that mangled your education the first time. I think you have a legitimate lawsuit on your hands if you graduated.

No matter where you transfer? You only have four years in. Do you have a lot of problems with other employees wherever you go?

As a four year employee you do not know loss. You do not have enough history with the airlines to even comprehend how hard the airline industry employees have been hit. The fact that your primary concern is how much travel will cost you shows you have nothing vested in the airline.
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Minus 1!

Awl itt takes iz poor speelling to get yur panties in a twist!

I'm sure I'll take misspelled words any and every day of the week over your impolite, classless expressions of umbrage.

Nobody comprehends your losses and nobody really cares either, get it? Got it? GOOD!

Btw, if you don't get that much, then I may suggest that you reprioritize your concerns of who is the winner of the local spelling bee to issues you may find elsewhere?

BTW, if you DID listen to the webcast, then you DID also learn that there are many, many people who are concerned about the travel benefits. You have noticed the many polls and posts concerning as much on this website, no?

 

[Toothy Grin]

I've been reading your posts for over 10 years. I'm quite familiar with your attitude.

Uggggh. You sound like the type of person who makes it hard for anyone to make a living in this industry, someone who works in it as a hobby and is only concerned about travel benefits.?

When your first sentence starts with Ugggh. LOL.

Seriously, and you wonder why new hires are so unimpressed with your tales of how used and abused you are and couldn't care less.

I love the part about 'people work this only for the benefits' like its the first time you ever heard such a concept. ROFL!

It is a funny post to read. As much as 'the very senior' oh whoooo gripe about new hires not knowing the industry, old hires haven't any concept of what being a new hire is about today. Perhaps if they retired and then tried to get a job and saw how there aren't any they may think differently and less abouth themselves...because your post is really only about you...if it were about others you would've been long gone, you know, to keep the seniority moving and all.

Now try to be nice, you've had I don't know how many years working in a hospitality industry to learn by example. The lousy atmosphere of any company shouldn't change who you are as a person. If it has, then who is really to blame. If it has not, and you were always so unpleasant, then what else can be said?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Minus 1!

Who cares? I have more pressing concerns than a -1 on a forum.

Awl itt takes iz poor speelling to get yur panties in a twist!

I'm sure I'll take misspelled words any and every day of the week over your impolite, classless expressions of umbrage.

It is simply a matter of presentation. Do you want to present your work group as illiterate and uneducated? If you owned a business and someone gave you a cover letter written like that would you hire them? Would you pay them well?

Nobody comprehends your losses and nobody really cares either, get it? Got it? GOOD!

It is not just employee losses. Creditors, employees, investors, and customers all lost. The only group that did not lose was AA upper management and the BoD's. Yur atitude may change wen the compiny asks u to wrk for minmum wage cuz they think ur a illiterit, uneducated dumazz.

Btw, if you don't get that much, then I may suggest that you reprioritize your concerns of who is the winner of the local spelling bee to issues you may find elsewhere?

I find voicing my concerns of abuse by the AA/TWU conglomerate on the work force worthwhile. Your friend goes against that goal when he identifies himself as an employee and makes post that look like they should have been written in crayon.

BTW, if you DID listen to the webcast, then you DID also learn that there are many, many people who are concerned about the travel benefits. You have noticed the many polls and posts concerning as much on this website, no?

Webcasts are often a tool used to manipulate stupid people. They have no legal binding. I do not put any credence into anything that is not on paper in the form of a TA or signed contract. Even then, our government has allowed companies to break contracts at will with "bankruptcies of convenience".

If you can't see the problem with someone identifying themselves as an employee for a company that refers to the work force as "a brick in our backpack" making a post that looks like it should have been written in crayon then the future workforce of AA is truly in trouble.