I know. Not another DOH thread

[boats]

I am still for DOH in boarding.Way too many problems with ETC. If your unfortunate enough to have your name placed on the do not fly list you can not ck-in and place your name on the stand-by list via the ETC.Why are you penalized because your name is common? Everyone should fly on senority regardless of active, retired, or commuting to work.Equality for all (just not the chosen few). DOH for all

 

[TheNewLowFare]

I'm from the west and I maybe a minority here, but I want date of hire too.

I also want DOH when it comes to hightime/low time self adjust.

I don't want first come, first serve when doing hightime adjustment. I'm sick of the juniors camping out and taking all the senior trips. I think it's a breach in seniority.

 

[Travelpro72]

I was trying to use the ETC to check a few loads for my trip earlier. I could not log on for the five times I tried. It kept saying something about cookies. If you are to rely on the ETC to list 12 hours ahead whether at home or in the hotel business center of a hotel in Hong Kong. I use the ETC all the time and was using it earlier. Until they can GUARANTEE that these snags and bugs will be fixed they better forget this FCFS $H1T. I don't care how they do it but to impose something that screws you here and there is not right.

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> I also want DOH when it comes to hightime/low time self adjust.

Is that like the east LTO?

 

[CaptBud330]

As a retiree with 37 years, I took it in the shorts the other day from CLT to TYS by a F/O, with I assume PSA, dressed in some rendition of uniform. If you call black tennis shoes, no tie and a backpack for the manuals a uniform, with maybe a year or two under his belt, got the last seat.
Really makes me feel good about all the years I invested with the company.

 

[hp-csr-phx]

I am another “Westieâ€￾ for DOH. With FTFC (First Click First Served) you have to start over at the bottom of the list if you decide to change your connecting point. Say you are trying to get from PHX to SEA. The SEA flight are all full so now you go PHX-LAS-SEA. You get the new check-in time. Time of Check-in was ok when you actually had to get up and go to the airport, but now it’s whoever clicks their mouse first--if you can get on the ETC.

 

[flyingcat]

As a retiree with 37 years, I took it in the shorts the other day from CLT to TYS by a F/O, with I assume PSA, dressed in some rendition of uniform. If you call black tennis shoes, no tie and a backpack for the manuals a uniform, with maybe a year or two under his belt, got the last seat.
Really makes me feel good about all the years I invested with the company.

I have heard that US was the only airline that kept retirees at the same priority as active. Thus the change.

Is this true? How do other airlines work?

 

[TheNewLowFare]

Is that like the east LTO?

I don't know what LTO is, but Hightime/Lowtime self adjust is just like your SAP I think. Every month, when seniors go on vacation, go on med leave or any of their trips drop, the flight attendants can go in open time every 20th of every month and change their crappy trips for more desirable ones or pick up extra trips. We can put 85-100, 90-110 or 100-115 when we do our bid. The junior flight attendants camp out in the training centers and airport to change their schedules and it's first come, first serve. I don't like this system because they hog the computers and some of them are like vicious dogs. They are part of the "cartel" and they change their schedules among themselves exclusively. Then after they change their schedules, all the crappy trips that they don't want goes to relief holders (what you call the secondary line holders). I hope we go on seniority system with this one (It used to be before the contract, then they changed it).

 

[Zarah]

I don't know what LTO is, but Hightime/Lowtime self adjust is just like your SAP I think. Every month, when seniors go on vacation, go on med leave or any of their trips drop, the flight attendants can go in open time every 20th of every month and change their crappy trips for more desirable ones or pick up extra trips. We can put 85-100, 90-110 or 100-115 when we do our bid. The junior flight attendants camp out in the training centers and airport to change their schedules and it's first come, first serve. I don't like this system because they hog the computers and some of them are like vicious dogs. They are part of the "cartel" and they change their schedules among themselves exclusively. Then after they change their schedules, all the crappy trips that they don't want goes to relief holders (what you call the secondary line holders). I hope we go on seniority system with this one (It used to be before the contract, then they changed it).

LTO = Least Time Order and is how they stack the reserves.

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

LTO = Least Time Order and is how they stack the reserves.

LTO should mean Lots of Time Oncall!

 

[EyeInTheSky]

As a retiree with 37 years, I took it in the shorts the other day from CLT to TYS by a F/O, with I assume PSA, dressed in some rendition of uniform. If you call black tennis shoes, no tie and a backpack for the manuals a uniform, with maybe a year or two under his belt, got the last seat.
Really makes me feel good about all the years I invested with the company.

At least you got full pay. No offense (I respect the retirees) but employees (pilots) are making less than you did 20 years ago! Sorry, too many people are making sacrifices just to be able to retire. There are people at this company on food stamps; it's just wrong.

Later,
Eye

 

[night-ice]

As a retiree with 37 years, I took it in the shorts the other day from CLT to TYS by a F/O, with I assume PSA, dressed in some rendition of uniform. If you call black tennis shoes, no tie and a backpack for the manuals a uniform, with maybe a year or two under his belt, got the last seat.
Really makes me feel good about all the years I invested with the company.

Clt to Tys...I've been bumped quite a few times on this route. I remember several months ago there was one seat left on a flight (rj). The young woman who works in the CLT station (express employee still in uniform) stayed with her "mom" to make sure she got on the flight, thus bumping me off. I just don't agree with parents bumping active employees off a flight, regardless of seniority. Go ahead and flame me, I don't care. However, had the young woman flew *with* her mom, then I'd have no problem with that. I eventually got on a later flight, but I was a little angry knowing a parent had bumped an active employee..Is this still the policy or must parents ride with the employee to board at the employee's DOH?
Also, if you fly with your guest who is using a buddy pass, and you are currently SA3, for example, if you decide to "SA1", your buddy pass rider goes to SA7! (Otherwise, he/she/they flies at your category)I found that out this summer on a tight flight I was going to use one of my SA1's....changed my mind real quick.

 

[flyingcat]

SA1 does nothing to help your guest pass travelers. They are SA7 unless the employee is with them in that case they are SA3.

SA1 passes only help you and people listed by name in your travel profile.

Whoever told you that using an SA1 lowers your guest pass rider category is wrong.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

I've looked at both sides and check in time is still the fairest.

I have a good deal of seniority for my status, but, an airline consists of all employees, from the new hire to the old veteran. Free travel is not a right, its a privilege, its one that non airline people envy us for.

If you have high seniority, you already enjoy the perks of great scheduling, scheduling that is the envy of many other people in "traditional" jobs.

You go on vacation, you take the time to study up and find a flight you think you can get on. Just because you have kept your job for a number of years shouldn't be the determinant for you getting on an empty flight.

The "entitlement" culture needs to rethink their place in the company. No one is entitled to anything. A job is a two way contract

Go ahead and flame on, fair is fair, its tough enough working at an airline, why penalize employees on the one benefit everyone loves by making it only for the old timers?

 

[rjh]

Clt to Tys...I've been bumped quite a few times on this route. I remember several months ago there was one seat left on a flight (rj). The young woman who works in the CLT station (express employee still in uniform) stayed with her "mom" to make sure she got on the flight, thus bumping me off. I just don't agree with parents bumping active employees off a flight, regardless of seniority. Go ahead and flame me, I don't care. However, had the young woman flew *with* her mom, then I'd have no problem with that. I eventually got on a later flight, but I was a little angry knowing a parent had bumped an active employee..Is this still the policy or must parents ride with the employee to board at the employee's DOH?

Parents, dependents, registered guests, etc. should only get SA3 if they travel WITH the employee. If you got bumped and the employee didn't travel with her mom . .sounds to me like someone cheated.