IAM Fleet Service thread 7/13-7/20

[goodfellow]

I would like to be able to go to the new direction swear in. Please send some info if you have it O Man. I am very glad to see the exchanging of ideas and the differences between the new leadership. This means a great deal when you are dealing with a company that has a habit of pitting one group against the other. They don't realize that they are dealing with a better educated group than ever before. Please continue to do the great work guys. It is always good to know you have defenders of the right in your corner. We as a group have shown that we can come together and deal with injustices. I foresee a rise in people wanting to be involved, because of the hard work put in by many of you guys!

Labor Dawg, just go to IAM district web home page and all info is there, iam141.org.

 

[freedom]

" Some sort of vote?" The vote will be over and done with before you even realize it. Besides, you wouldn't know where to vote anyway. As a pilot said on another thread........Change ur avatar.......It's not befitting of you.......
And stick to Fleet issues will you. You're embarrassing us on other threads. Especially the Pilots thread.

SOME of the pilots are a danger to all of us … but I know how to deal with them after dealing with the likes of you …

Your so hardcore union that you , much like them are blinded to reality , and it’s very simple math ….

We have maybe what 2.5 billion in the bank ? are fuel losses for this year are going to be around 2 billion , how much does that leave us for next year ?

500 million ……

If we enter BK and have to raise credit or money , forget it …. Us airways has been on that merry go round too many times , they’ve leveraged just about every piece of property have they not ? and who’s going to give credit to an airline in today’s industry , no one I doubt , or at least in not enough quantities to save our airline .

We absolutely positively cannot afford BAD press , hence I will continue to kick them in the arse for their stupidity …

 

[mike33]

SOME of the pilots are a danger to all of us … but I know how to deal with them after dealing with the likes of you …

Your so hardcore union that you , much like them are blinded to reality , and it’s very simple math ….

We have maybe what 2.5 billion in the bank ? are fuel losses for this year are going to be around 2 billion , how much does that leave us for next year ?

500 million ……

If we enter BK and have to raise credit or money , forget it …. Us airways has been on that merry go round too many times , they’ve leveraged just about every piece of property have they not ? and who’s going to give credit to an airline in today’s industry , no one I doubt , or at least in not enough quantities to save our airline .

We absolutely positively cannot afford BAD press , hence I will continue to kick them in the arse for their stupidity …

The only one getting kicked is you............from topic to topic..............on all posts...............don't you get it yet?

You're about too many " ifs ". If it wasn't for the internet you'd be in a straight jacket by now..............

 

[P. REZ]

Freedom,


Fundamental Data
Debt/Equity Ratio 2.79
Gross Margin 11.47%
Net Profit Margin 1.06%
Total Shares Outstanding 92.1 Mil
Market Capitalization 264.28 Mil
Earnings/Share 0.90
StockScouter Rating 4

More financial ratios
Earnings Estimates fyi
Qtr(6/08) EPS Estimate -1.27
FY(12/08) EPS Estimate -10.62
Current P/E 2.80
FY(12/09) EPS Estimate -10.22
Forward P/E -0.20
Next Earnings Release: July 22


If you look up above you will notice that US Airways has total shares outstanding of 92.1 million, a projected loss of -1.27 per share for the 2nd quarter, a projected loss of -10.62 per share for 2008 and a projected loss of -10.22 per share for 2009. This translates to a loss of $116,967,000 for the 2nd quarter, a loss of $978,102,000 for 2008 and a loss of $941,262,000 for 2009. Now, factor in that US Airways has $3,521,000,000 in total current assets of which $2,070,000,000 is cash and short-term investments. If fuel continues to cripple the airline industry and these losses continue US Airways would have plenty of cash. The total projected losses for 2008 and 2009 only total $1,919,364,000. Obviously no airline can continue down this path but US Airways is positioned just fine to make it through this tough time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not whistling dixie here but I'm not all doom and gloom either. What's going on with the pilots won't bring this airline down and if we file grievances that win monetary damages from this company it will still be ok.

Be strong and back your Union brothers and sisters everywhere!!




P. Rez

 

[cltrat]

SOME of the pilots are a danger to all of us … but I know how to deal with them after dealing with the likes of you …

Your so hardcore union that you , much like them are blinded to reality , and it’s very simple math ….

We have maybe what 2.5 billion in the bank ? are fuel losses for this year are going to be around 2 billion , how much does that leave us for next year ?

500 million ……

If we enter BK and have to raise credit or money , forget it …. Us airways has been on that merry go round too many times , they’ve leveraged just about every piece of property have they not ? and who’s going to give credit to an airline in today’s industry , no one I doubt , or at least in not enough quantities to save our airline .

We absolutely positively cannot afford BAD press , hence I will continue to kick them in the arse for their stupidity …

If I could buy you for what you know and sell you for what you think you know it would be a heckva profit

 

[Labor Dawg]

I am not in PHX.



I never trusted Randy Canale. I met him once and he was very polite and we had a friendly conversation. No use in being uncivil.





I wasn't disparaging our local lodge here. I was responding to o-man's statement, "Not quite sure of what east guys your referring to . but the 2 largest locals voted a resounding NO." Our local is not one of the largest locals.



Now you do. The east guys wanted that contract bad. And no, they weren't Canale loyalists or company kool-aid drinkers. They voted for New Direction. I am not a liar.

My friend I would like to tell you. The east voted this agreement down. The fact that you
are saying something like this simply means you want to shift blame. I understand why some of the east voted for it as well as most of the west. There was a lot of effort put towards getting it in by using the west against the east. Namely by the RC crew. The truth is while it may hold a few pos things it holds far more negs. We can only hope to recover as much as we can when we can and that was severly limited by the ratafcation of this agreement. ? question did the international actully allow dues objectors the right to vote? If so does this in itself not smack of tampering? If you take this as saying you are wrong then so be it! You can not deny that the RC crew pushed this crap just like before. I wanted to completely get rid of this broken down union but at least we can try to move forward with a new leadership. These guys also know that they need to get down to business asap. The eyes will be on them. With that being said we must allow them to work to achieve sucess. We can not be too quick to judge. I think they will help change this union and give us something to move forward with. Even if we do not agree you are now apart of the largest local anywhere because, this forum is the best place to communicate and listen to those who are working for you not the Company or the International!

 

[necigrad]

SOME of the pilots are a danger to all of us … but I know how to deal with them after dealing with the likes of you …

I'd trust any pilot with my life in their plane before I'd trust you with a "Big Wheel" on a sidewalk, or even in your own driveway.

Your so hardcore union that you , much like them are blinded to reality , and it’s very simple math ….

At least he cares to participate in union issues, unlike you who sits in the back and then talks about how great it was and how much it benefited you. At least he's been to a union hall. And I'm not even going to address the rest of your comment there.

We have maybe what 2.5 billion in the bank ? are fuel losses for this year are going to be around 2 billion , how much does that leave us for next year ?

OK, IF fuel costs an additional 2 billion (which is what you were trying to say but didn't) and IF the fares aren't raised in response and IF savings aren't made elsewhere, then yes, your math is correct. All three of those things will NOT happen, and I don't expect any two of them to.

If we enter BK and have to raise credit or money , forget it …. Us airways has been on that merry go round too many times , they’ve leveraged just about every piece of property have they not ? and who’s going to give credit to an airline in today’s industry , no one I doubt , or at least in not enough quantities to save our airline .

IF (there's that word again!) US goes into BK money will be there. There are ALWAYS investors, and hard as it may to believe, some are even dumber then you. As to property, AWA NEVER owned anything. The only assets that were owned by AWA or US have been sold, so there is nothing to have been leveraged. AWA didn't ever keep property. They built it then sold it with a condition that they be able to lease it. That's the way they work.

We absolutely positively cannot afford BAD press , hence I will continue to kick them in the arse for their stupidity …

Then tell your buddy Doug not to noshow a national news program, ESPECIALLY when USes safety is attacked for the entire day before his evening show.

 

[perserverance]

''Dawg'' nice to see you back on the site more freguently.
I hope to see you more. I guess you can see the posters'
really haven't changed but were still trying. At least we got
Canale out......baby steps,

Hope to see you more.

Thanks