Edward
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Herp-a-derp durrr....at this point in the game, with the company being in the position it's in, and given their history of disrespecting labor contracts, do you really think they'd let any agreement past, present, or hypothetical keep them from chopping heads if it means immediate cost savings to them?Not the fact that you guys didn't decide to read all of the new agreement before you voted on it, or the contact after it was voted in.
We tried to warn you but all you chose to look at were the dollar signs.
Get over yourself. You can't pretend to know what personally motivated hundreds of individuals in their decisions to vote the way they did. Me, I just wanted pay parity. Equal pay for equal work. I guess that makes me greedy.You made your bed now you sleep in it. Next time maybe you'll have learned.
Blame it on the union....that sounds like a good out.
Not the fact that you guys didn't decide to read all of the new agreement before you voted on it, or the contact after it was voted in.
Herp-a-derp durrr....at this point in the game, with the company being in the position it's in, and given their history of disrespecting labor contracts, do you really think they'd let any agreement past, present, or hypothetical keep them from chopping heads if it means immediate cost savings to them?
Get over yourself. You can't pretend to know what personally motivated hundreds of individuals in their decisions to vote the way they did. Me, I just wanted pay parity. Equal pay for equal work. I guess that makes me greedy.
Correct. You wanted pay parity but a what total cost? Look back at the forum the majority of the west & small stations saw & wanted pay. We ket telling people to look at the scope of the agreement. Pay is important i agree however it is not everything.
Really? Is this what we always do? What does that sentence even mean? Then again, with the kind of job security afforded to the fortress hub of CLT you can throw out as many holier-than-thou smug told-you-so's with the comfort of knowing you're the farthest from the blade.
That's not totally true. There were packets handed out to the bottom 9 or so fulltimers. Nobody is ever the furthest from the blade with this company or line of work. But you should put down any & every station you can to keep your chances up that you stay in the system. You may not want to go to PHL or DCA or even CLT but if that's what it takes then so be it.
Thanks for sharing.
Luggage,
Have you read that section of the contract, as it far from clear on the matter? The section in question has been posted on this board and the people here cannot agree on its intent. You see, this is one of the reasons as why people join unions... in order to provide professional legal and financial advice as it relates to their employment. Otherwise, it would be prohibitively expensive for every employee to consult with a labor attorney or CPA whenever there was a question. In the case at hand, it would appear my friend, Cream, along with others, had the mistaken belief the union representatives knew what they were talking about as furloughs were announced. As I have harped on many times before on this board... get uneducated, untrained people in charge and you will get uneducated, untrained advice in return. Good to see our dues being well spent for subpar results.
So Opines Jester.
I am Jesters source in LAS. He is full of himself but he is also true too in what he is saying (sorry buddy!). Ill be furloughed in Feb and I think unemployed b/c of the mess and the bid. I was there when union people was in break room and it was ok until someone asked about the openings and the bid. Things went crazy then and I thought there was going to be a fight. A lot of cussing by some at those guys! Glad I wasnt one of them! People saying our union $#@% them once again. Most of you werent there or in LAS and Im telling you M.M. was telling people and counting the list from bottom as to open spots to bid on. Thats what I did and didnt bid either phl or dca. I might get den or dfw. Nobody told us differnt as packets were given out and I saw N.H. there too and two other guys. I know Jesters a jerk (sorry again!) but he is right about this one. Anyone know if I am furlough when i might try again for something open in phl or dca or somewhere else?
CHP
Total cost? To whom? I'm still right side up on the deal.LuggageJockey said:Correct. You wanted pay parity but a what total cost? Look back at the forum the majority of the west & small stations saw & wanted pay. We ket telling people to look at the scope of the agreement. Pay is important i agree however it is not everything.
Ah, yes, my good man, but let's speak candidly; what do you think your chances are of actually being furloughed, given your seniority and the fact that the company has no intention of chopping fleet heads in CLT?LuggageJockey said:That's not totally true. There were packets handed out to the bottom 9 or so fulltimers. Nobody is ever the furthest from the blade with this company or line of work.