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Sorry Wikileaks but 6 figure salaries are a joke and the Prez' salary of $125,000 can be reduced down to $75,000 with a pledge donating $50,000 back to the membership. $75,000 is more than enough and is still great money to make. Recouping a half million per year back to the membership is reasonable. Hiding behind the constitution and saying it can't be done is unacceptable because nothing is stopping the personal free volition to do so.

regards,

Tim Nelson
cell: 224-234-5414

Tim,

What is to stop your "ticket" from not giving back $50,000 apeice. And where did ytou come up with the $500,000 figure? USairways has only 5 AGC's. Just asking. Sure they can say it all day long, but when push comes to shove I don't believe they will. I have no doubt you will, just to prove your point, the rest not so much. So what happens when the rest don't? You can't just fire them can you?
 
Tim,

What is to stop your "ticket" from not giving back $50,000 apeice. And where did ytou come up with the $500,000 figure? USairways has only 5 AGC's. Just asking. Sure they can say it all day long, but when push comes to shove I don't believe they will. I have no doubt you will, just to prove your point, the rest not so much. So what happens when the rest don't? You can't just fire them can you?
I was speaking about all the elected AGC's. I think pledging $25,000 a piece is reasonable since they make $100,000. $75,000 is still good money. My salary would be $125,000 so me pledging back $50,000 should be expected. Nobody needs to be making 6 figures.

regards,

Tim Nelson
cell: 224-234-5414
 
Tim,

With all due respect, it appears like you are trying to do 2008 all over again with a different team. Are you saying you were wrong in 2008? How are "your" AGC's going to be better suited to deal with the company? For that matter how are you? How will you clean up the backlog of grievances that the canoli goons left behind? And in doing so created an even bigger logjam with the current grievances. I have supported you in the past, but sadly I cannot support you here. We will never get anywhere if we keep changing leaders. I think there is some fat that needs to be trimmed with the current leasership sure, but a change altogether, no way. You are right about one thing though, the membership does need to get involved, and I wish you luck with that, I really do. I do not think however, that you fully understand what you are asking of them though. Apathy runs rampant through the rank and file, you know this. People that just want to show up to work and not get involved. We are only as strong as our weakest member, right? I would pose a challenge to you, come to my station, (you know where I work), and get 5 people involved that wants to, and has never been involved before, and stick with it. Not someone who says yes just to appease you. Better yet, get Jester to step up to the plate, if you can. Just know I will not support your team. Because not knowing what happened to get you so angry, from the outside looking in, it appears that you are just throwing a tantrum because you didn't get your way. Trying to change the teacher in the middle of class if you will. The one thing I hope for Tim, is that there are no old canoli goons on your ticket. Because that will surely sink your ship. Best of luck.
Couldn't of said it better PJ!!!!!!!
 
My Dearest Mister Roabilly!

Did perform a Jedi Mind Fu... errr... a Jester Mind Trick upon you? ::::: casting circling fingers :::: "These aren't the union droids you are searching for... go about your business... move along...."

However, on a serious note, and I don't know the answer, but how does the union pay for legal representation for its membership? My concern has to do with the IAM hiring 3rd party law firms, which typically bill $300 - $500/hour, plus expenses. Obviously, expecting an attorney in every arbitration becomes expensive quickly, but what if, the IAM hired its own attorneys in-house? I don't know the numbers of ramp agents being represented under the IAM, but it must be in excess of 20,000 people, and if only $25/year per employee assessed for hiring an in-house legal staff who are experts in labor law and collect bargaining agreements, we could have pretty good representation at $500,000 for a couple of attorneys and support staff.

I have worked in organizations of a few thousand employees, and we had in-house attorneys to handle the mundane and routine issues, as the organization was to able to provide enough work for the legal staff. Given the number of arbitration cases within US alone, it seems there would be plenty of work in-house attorneys to keep busy. The first excuse we always hear as to a lack of having attorneys or arbitrating cases has been the lack of funds, and I suspect we are using mostly 3rd party law firms who are prohibitively expensive.

So Proposes Jester.
Jester,

DL141 pays per hour for legal and its a 6 figure number since it's exactly what you said. An In-house option without the running toll would save considerably. However, there really aren't a whole lot of arbitration cases.

regards,

Tim Nelson
 
You may be right Jester, or given that this is a specialized field you may be wrong as well. An airline labor lawyer might bill out at what you said, or more. It's not just a lawyer you pay for, there's the paralegals, general counsel time, travel, expenses, and all sorts of other costs as well (and this is something I have first hand experience seeing). We might be able to get an in house counsel as you suggest for say $120,000, or, for the reasons I mentioned, the salary requirements might be much higher. You do inadvertently suggest an interesting point with your number of 20,000 members. US Airways, while a different business, employs something over 30,000 employees, and has many lawyers, both on staff and on retainer, some of which are devoted to labor.
Staff attorneys at the INTL have in house salaries of about $120,000. The in-house option is cost effective.

regards,

Tim Nelson
 
someone mention the name mike crowell in an earlier post I was told he was my agc here in phx​
and your telling me he makes over 100,000 dollars a year for what ? As far as I know he has never came​
to this station and spoke to the membership isn't that part of his job. If so then his boss needs to know hes not​
representing phx like the other station are​
I guess what I am saying to tim is if he is on your ballot then I wont be voting​
do you have to vote for everyone thats on the same ticket for it to count​
MC isn't going to be on anyone's ticket. He will be done, he just don't know it yet. They were talking about putting GS in MC's spot as AGC, and then asking PR to be placed in the VP spot. But, ND10 definately has no plans for MC on its ticket. First and foremost, before February nominations, the ND10 ought to finally do something and secure extensions for those 19 stations. It certainly didn't help that our own District President decided not to bother to show up for your first section 6 negotiations in 10 years. Those 19 stations can't wait until Jan 2014 and all that needs to happen is a LOA extending those protections. All we get from the ND10 is talk and blaming everyone else. None of them go up against RD, so you and your US AIRWAYS members are and will continue to be second in line. Imagine that, a District President that didn't even bother to set forth a strong image in negotiations. Sorry but RD isn't going to get squat and the ND10 has FAILED to produce any solidarity over these past 3 years as it continues to blame Canale. The membership deserves better than just talk.

A few years back I told Rich that I would take the organizing arm of this District and he could have the representational arm. I came through for the membership in a way that wasn't seen in these parts since last century. Rich has failed. He hasn't done anything. Cripes, when was the last time he showed up in CLT? Never mind that he didn't even bother showing up in PHX for negotiations. The problem with the USair AGC's is that they are right up his butt and scared of him. Imagine that. Not even an update on the District web page about how you lost 250 more jobs. Again, RD doesn't care about US AIRWAYS, it was totally heartless to once again allow the US AIRWAYS membership to see it from a management memo. RD could care less about US AIRWAYS. Bottom line. You need a leader that includes ALL members and doesn't throw US AIRWAYS to the side. And PJ, to be sure, a couple of the current US AIRWAYS AGC's might be ok under different leadership but they are killing our US AIRWAYS members right now not pushing Rich to turn his head to US AIRWAYS matters. I'm glad I took over the organizing arm and I couldn't do both organizing and representing. The IAM was getting its butt handed to it in all organizing drives because it simply didn't have a clue of what it was doing. I feel good about being back where the masses are after the success I achieved directing the organizing department but I'm not satisfied. Members continue to lose their jobs and our leadership has no original thinking and is fearful of big business. Therefore that is why I now want to lead and direct the representational arm now.

regards,

Tim Nelson
 
The district only pays half the salary, the International pays the other half indirectly with reimbursement to the district for each AGC.
 
Couldn't of said it better PJ!!!!!!!
When we put together ND10, I directed the Organizing Department, and RD directed the representation department. 3 years later, and after 17,000 eligible voters voted for the IAM, myself and others see that RD hasn't kept up his department, so changes need to be made. Always have to prune the dead wood off the tree to make it grow better. RD knew I was running against him so he pruned the producing part of the tree. I, with the members support, intend to prune the deadwood and to start building solidarity and self worth for the members. I have yet to see any IAM District Prez who understands or knows how to lead by serving and building solidarity. And to keep the 'same ole' is profane.

regards,

Tim Nelson
cell: 224-234-5414
 
75,000 to be an AGC is a joke, I could make more on the ramp with overtime and be home with my family everynight. I know these guys are away from their family alot. You couldnt pay me enough to do that job and be away from my family. another thing I see in Tims posts is alot of self promoting, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.
 
75,000 to be an AGC is a joke, I could make more on the ramp with overtime and be home with my family everynight. I know these guys are away from their family alot. You couldnt pay me enough to do that job and be away from my family. another thing I see in Tims posts is alot of self promoting, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.
$75,00 is sufficient. I should know because my salary was $72,000. Organizing is actually on the road alot more than AGC's, even though it was no fun to be away from my family for up to a month at a time working 7 days a week. Of course, it is something that I don't think one should consider if they have young kids at home. When I decided to lead the organizing department, my 3 children were already grown and I could focus on the membership. And I also realized the burden on marriages so I had no problem allowing the spouses of my organizers to join them while their husbands were on an extended trip. Cripes, I had guys that believe in this stuff helping me out and being away from home and they weren't making squat. So, even though I was on salary, my organizers were the real heros out there 24/7 getting the job done for NO EXTA salary other than their normal salary from their airline. Throw in your negotiations team which doesn't get a salary and you have alot of solid members who aren't getting paid a dime to be away from home because they believe in what they are doing. $75,000 is sufficient for someone who has his/her homelife straightened out and has a core belief in the membership.

regards,

Tim Nelson
cell: 224-234-5414
 
Tim,

Let me get this straight. You have commiments from your 18 AGC's to "pledge" a little over $2,000 a month back AFTER taxes, because there is no way to show that as a "pre-tax" deduction. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think so. And I asked you a question a few pages back that you never answered.

Are you saying that DL141 and NOT the IAMNPF are the ones responsible for the slashing of our pension? If so how? I really would like to know what you know. Feel free to PM if you like.

Also, I truely believe that aside from a certain VP , and 1 AGC, the ND team has been solid in their efforts.

Do you not think that changing the players in the middle of the game changes the game? Why would you set back negotiations for your own selfish reasons? And I believe this to be true.

What happens if/when you lose, are you gonna try to get a different union that see's things "your way"?

How would you "extend" protections for those stations? We as a collective, agreed to the terms set forth in the current agreement right?

Again it appears thet you are the spoiled kis throwing a tantrum because you didn't get your way.

It doesn't have to be "Tim's" way or the highway, as you appear to be stating, but we do have to work together.

But whatever, the IAM is a democratic union, and that is your right to try to put a ticket together to run against the current leadership. Best of luck to you.
 
i haven't yet had a chance to read everything from the last few pages , but from what i've read so far it appears as if Tim is organizing a new group of elected officals , and that they will accept LESS money than the current crop ....

if that's the case , you have my complete support .... i've been saying it for years , there's NO reason anyone needs 100K to be an AGC .... 250 K for a president of baggage handling ... give me a break ....

75 K for an AGC postion is fine with me ....

go Tim go !
 
Freedom,
The ticket Tim is trying to put together is-going to "pledge" money back because their pay is already set. I think this is just a farce. Also the ND team has turned down raises every time Also Tim how do you know the current leadership didn't try everything they could to protect those stations further? And really what could you have done different? The answer is nothing. You were not there so you don't know for sure do you?
 
Are you saying that DL141 and NOT the IAMNPF are the ones responsible for the slashing of our pension? If so how? I really would like to know what you know. Feel free to PM if you like.
So you are saying that the IAMNPF can change the plan and reduce the accrual rate of future benefits at anytime and the union can’t do squat
 
Tim,

Let me get this straight. You have commiments from your 18 AGC's to "pledge" a little over $2,000 a month back AFTER taxes, because there is no way to show that as a "pre-tax" deduction. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think so. And I asked you a question a few pages back that you never answered.

Are you saying that DL141 and NOT the IAMNPF are the ones responsible for the slashing of our pension? If so how? I really would like to know what you know. Feel free to PM if you like.

Also, I truely believe that aside from a certain VP , and 1 AGC, the ND team has been solid in their efforts.

Do you not think that changing the players in the middle of the game changes the game? Why would you set back negotiations for your own selfish reasons? And I believe this to be true.

What happens if/when you lose, are you gonna try to get a different union that see's things "your way"?

How would you "extend" protections for those stations? We as a collective, agreed to the terms set forth in the current agreement right?

Again it appears thet you are the spoiled kis throwing a tantrum because you didn't get your way.

It doesn't have to be "Tim's" way or the highway, as you appear to be stating, but we do have to work together.

But whatever, the IAM is a democratic union, and that is your right to try to put a ticket together to run against the current leadership. Best of luck to you.
PJ, you have some valid questions.

Item 1: AGC pay
The Grand Lodge provides half of the AGC pay. The actual salary can not be cut. $125,000 is waaaayyy too much for the Prez, whether it is me or Delaney. $100,000 is waaaayyyy too much for an AGC. What I am going to do is pledge back to the membership through donations to this district gross monies over the $75,000 gross money mark. It's nothing tricky so I'm not trying to trick you ok and I'm not blowing smoke up your butt and suckering you guys into thinking net vs gross. I gross pay of $75,000 is more than enough money and I would be grateful to the membershp for it. Anymore would be HIGHWAY ROBBERY. PERIOD! That means that I'll probably net about $50,000 which is a ton of money for me or whoever is representing you. Regarding the AGC's. I have been in contact with 'solid' team members and I have asked them to follow my leadership and pledge back the monies over the $75,000 gross mark. IMO, nobody is going to go poor making $75,000. That would mean me pledging back to the membership over $50,000 gross monies. The easiest thing to do is to just pass a measure to cut the salaries but it can't be done. But, it's not good enough to just say it can't be done since there is NOTHING stopping me and my team from donating back YOUR money. Our officers are overpaid period. When I become Prez, I don't just wanna be Prez for one term, I want to be prez until I am forced out due to retirement and I want to build this district by serving the membership and washing the memberships feet. That's how you build an incredibly huge powerful union. But it requries sacrifice and will require that the officers quit pimping the membership with inflated salaries. It is the fair, reasonable and Just thing to do. I really don't know what else I can say about it.

Item 2: IAMPF
The INTL Pension fund folks are responsible for slashing your pensions. My gripe with the District is that Delaney decided not to tell anyone about it. He lied and said he didn't even know. His AGC's should have called a spade a spade and chastised the INTL for it. Going forward, ask your AGC if he supports increasing the IAM pension fund contributions of your employer. As President, I would put any increases into your wage, for instance, if Delaney is wanting to increase the employer's IAMPF contribution another .25 cents per hour then I would rather put that increase in your pocket in the form of a wage. The reason is because once those monies go into the IAMPF, YOU lose control and the IAMPF can once again slash and pull a "Robin Hood Reversed". It was a complete and utter crime what happened and we need to find out what the stance is of our current AGC's. If they are all in favor of increasing company contributions to the IAM instead of putting that money in increasing your wage, then I have a huge problem with them. We have already seen evidence that there is a giant hole in that pocket that says "IAM Pension Fund". It isn't guaranteed and may even default one day. Put the additional monies in wages, days off, health benefits, or the pockets of the members, but don't put any additional gains right back into a pocket that has a hole in it. IMO, I don't think any AGC is advocating increasing IAMPF amounts. If so then vote against that person. And I doubt any negotiations team members would advocate that. I know the IAM's position. Since it's not presently the IAM"s money, the IAM is saying that even though they hammered your pension that you should be in great shape because they will just ask the company to increase its contribution rates [your money ] into the IAMPF coffers and, on paper, your future rates may go from $48 up to maybe the $60's in you increase your funding. Makes no sense. Makes no sense at all. Increase funding so what? So the IAM Trustees can just steal more as its membership dwindles? In closing, I just think the AGC's should have called it what it was. Highway robbery of your pension by your union. Were they the ones doing the robbing? No. And I don't think Delaney should have lied about it when he didn't communicate about it. Yeah Yeah, I know he said he didn't know...but really?? He knew but it's the same political communication crap game he plays.

Item 3: Changing players in the middle of the game? First off, it's not the middle of the game. Second off, we aren't even in the game. Third off, if it was the middle of the game then YES. Sometimes you have to change the starting pictures because things don't get any better. In life, it's normal and customary to change players in the middle of the game in all phases of life. The alternative is to just keep the same leader who hasn't done squat. Keeping the same broken thing is the definition of insanity. Changing for my own selfish reasons??? No. If I wanted to be selfish I would just piss on you guys and have kept my job and my $75,000 salary. It's called sacrifice and I sacrificed $75,000 and gladly wear my knee pads again because as I was doing a great job for you and the membership directing the organizing department, RD was smoking cigars and playing golf and not even thinking about US AIRWAYS. You had an ass kicking Director of Organizing PJ who was responsible for growing your union with winning 17,000 eligible voters in two elections. Go away from home for 60 days at a time bro, or leave your station for just a few days, then come tell me I'm selfish. I may be an #### or a prick but I damn near wasn't selfish against the membership.

And what President blows off the first section 6 negotiations in over 10 years? He hasn't missed one negotiations session at United. US AIRWAYS members need to be treated the same as ALL other members. Say I'm selfish all day PJ but I did my job and produced. Was I your organizing director for my own selfish reasons? You should already have an answer if you only looked at the scoreboard. I produced by building a team and building solidarity. Organizing drives are won by building solidarity. It's the same with representation. If you guys want a industry leading contract then you need a leader who KNOWS how to build solidarity and HAS built solidarity. RD has no idea how to build solidarity because he is lazy. When was the last time he even showed up in CLT? He could care less about US AIRWAYS. Bottom line.

Item 4: What happens if I lose? Since 2007 I have become fascinated with the IAM as I have found its democracy interesting. I haven't always done things the right way. I used to think that it was easier to vote out the union than it was to vote out the lame leader. When me and you were organizing for the IBEW and went to CLT I think our energies were misplaced. I started listening to the membership, and so did you, and we gave the constitution a chance to work. Since then, the template of not having elections has been smashed because of the pioneering of 2008 of me, you, and a few thousand members. If I get my butt handed to me then oh well. Better luck next time for me then I guess. I can't be sure of how many tickets there will be this time but at least 3 tickets have already been formed. Mine, Karen's, and Rich's. I am suspecting a 4th ticket may also be formed which would be a sorta morph off of Rich's but time will tell. In other words, I may have been the first to part ways with RD, but I don't believe I will be the last.

Item 5: How to extend terms, didn't we agree to the terms??
Good question. We agreed to the terms until the ammendable date, that is why we are negotiating new terms right now. So the question can be reduced to "How does a union negotiate new terms?"
Remember, Organizing and Representation go hand in hand as far as success. Representation is about negotiations and grievance handling. But, the foundation of any negotiations is solidarity. RC, and RD did not know how to build solidarity. The IAM doesn't know how to build solidarity, that's why they continually got it's arse handed to it in every organizing attempt. I know how to build solidarity and I built solidarity which is plan to see in organizing. Building solidarity starts with the vision of a leader and he/she must know the recipe. It's not so much a science. But, whatever it looks like, it starts with empowering the masses and involving them. Once president, I will stand on the shoulders of the masses, just like I stood on the shoulders of the organizers and eligible voters, as opposed to trying to do it by myself or cutting deals with management to not involve the masses. PJ, your company is not fearful of me, RD, or superman himself. Your company is afraid of a leader who has a vision to involve the membership and is not fearful of management. Thus, management is afraid of the masses. I intend to release the masses. That doesn't mean we go on strike 6 years from now and it doesn't mean we do wildcat strikes and break the law. It means that we educate the masses on their self worth and also educate the public with a corporate campaign against Corporate greed. It also means that we continue to do a professional job. US AIRWAYS baggage was number 1 in the latest numbers but you guys are way down the list as far as wages/benefits goes. There is NO RESPECT in return. There are 19 stations on the chopping block right now. At the very least we need to get a LOA to extend those protections while we negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement. We have to have the back of those stations. Our positions must be clear to management that we will not tolerate any more job loss due to contracting our the jobs of our brothers and sisters. And if management challenges us, we must legally do what we have to do as a union to communicate properly. We are not a defeated group, we just have a defeated leader. We don't need the government or anyone else involved in our business with management. I believe our membership is ready to be lead and is tired of the same ole. In essence, neither I, RD, or Superman can get those extensions since it's the masses that can get them. It's called solidarity and only with a solid union can such things be achieved. I couldn't organize one person, but when the vision was to empower the masses, we organized all. In negotiations, the District president should only be the conduit of the masses and not fancy himself.

Item 6: You appear like the spoiled kid who didn't get his way? What do you mean by that? What was my way? When we did ND8, I told RD I would direct the organizing department, and he could direct the representation department. I came through. He didn't come through on anything from Aloha, Hawaiian, UA, CO, or US. Try checking out that nasty contract he signed at Hawaiian. All I ever wanted was for him to do his job and he didn't. So I'm running against him to finish the job and to release the masses to get the contract they deserve. And I'm not going to sign andy Gosh Darn confidentiality papers where I can't talk to the members. Tell me PJ, has your AGC told you what they are asking for? This airline is still making close to record profits and is doing some serious butt kicking. Cripes, it kicked Southwest all over the place in PHL and now we are following Southwest to ATL to get some more Southwest booty. Your airline is a great airline and when I had to buy tickets I almost always bought tickets on this airline because it had the most competitive fares, much better than Southwest. It's past time that the workers at US AIRWAYS get rewarded and get their past sacrifices back and get industry leading wages.

Item 7: It doesn't have to be Tim's way.

True. No complaints there.

Item 8: IAM democracy.
Amen! Let's get'r done!!!!!

regards,

Tim Nelson
cell: 224-234-5414
 
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