IAM Fleet Service topic

[cltrat]

All I can speak on is the area I work in here.

The vast majority are at best disillusioned with the union, they think that the union does next to nothing for them and that they don't do much for their bucks as far as dues. I'm not stating how I feel or don't feel just observing what I hear people say.

As far as the current election coming up, despite any number of requests for reasons to keep the current president, all I recall seeing is that they need more time? reminds me of the up coming POTUS election.

 

[700UW]

Robbed,

The procedure is as follows:

First Step, shop steward and immediate supervisor.

Step Two, Grievance Committee and Manager.

Step Three- AGC and Labor Relations (Scheduled by Labor Relations availability)

Step Four System Board then Arbitration.

Depending on what step it is in, is who you need to contact.

 

[wings396]

All I can speak on is the area I work in here.

The vast majority are at best disillusioned with the union, they think that the union does next to nothing for them and that they don't do much for their bucks as far as dues. I'm not stating how I feel or don't feel just observing what I hear people say.

As far as the current election coming up, despite any number of requests for reasons to keep the current president, all I recall seeing is that they need more time? reminds me of the up coming POTUS election.

I think that is the general consensus all around, not isolated to your area or station.
Thank You.....

 

[niblet]

Robbed,
start with the oral step with you committee/ then
first step is with your local Station Manager
second step is with the Regional Director
third step is with the AGC and Labor/ Weston
we dont have supervisors we have Leads. The Leads have nothing to do with grievences unless they are your stewart or committee person

 

[roabilly]

I think that is the general consensus all around, not isolated to your area or station.
Thank You.....

Actually, that is the consensus with every single Labor Group, in every single Airline that is represented! Can anyone name me even ONE group for ANY company in this industry that is happy with their union?

This site is the perfect place to begin your research… it will take only a few minutes.
Further, how many of you voted to oust Canale for the same reasons you want to oust Delaney?

 

[saywhat]

I'm not against the IAM, just stating the a majority of the members including myself are not satisfied with their overall performance. Save your crap about me wanting to divide this group, as I have no influence on anyone. If you and a few others want to say that you are pleased with what they have done for you, that's great. Our group has had a ton of our work outsourced, lost profit sharing, lost wages, lost snapbacks, and have seen our dues increase on a regular basis. Are you pleased with all of this? The voices of many candidates are echoing their displeasure as well. Our dues are intended to pay for a service, and we aren't getting any. Who am I trying to divide? Those that are satisfied, and those who are not? In case you have missed it, they already are. Wake up and look around...travel around the system and talk to a few members. Do you actually read what people post here? Do you see displeasure with anyone other than myself? Where did our 2% raise go? A minor fopa in the printing of the cba? The company can drag It's feet thru negotiations while our pay sits idle until July. Are they looking to get any retro pay in this new cba? Don't make faulse accusations towards me just because I like SOME of what Tim has to say. I am open minded as to what the other candidates have to say as well, and have a few months to decide who to vote for.

You do seem to be anti IAM which if you channeled your anger in the right direction you would be angry at the company. Let's look at your list one by one.

1. Ton of work outsourced-contract negotiated by Canale
2. Lost profit sharing-negotiated by Canale
3. Lost wages-2 bankruptcies and Canale
4. Lost snapbacks-Tim Nelson put on a vote no campaign on first TA by Canale which had snapbacks, 2nd TA Canale
5. Dues increase-Sucks, as far as I know needs to be changed at GL convention

What I see is that none of this has been caused by the ND so your anger is misplaced. If your AGC was MC than you are finally getting him replaced and if your AGC was MH he was sick so give that scenario a break. Regarding negotiations, what group hasn't been slowed by the company in this process? IMO the ND hasn't had time to prove or disprove themselves and changing them out now just keeps the COMPANY in the drivers seat. TN and his bs has divided all of us and the COMPANY is taking us to the cleaners because of it. My advice would be to get the people in your station to get together and be one backing this Union for better or worse.

 

[wings396]

Actually, that is the consensus with every single Labor Group, in every single Airline that is represented! Can anyone name me even ONE group for ANY company in this industry that is happy with their union?

This site is the perfect place to begin your research… it will take only a few minutes.
Further, how many of you voted to oust Canale for the same reasons you want to oust Delaney?

Sure, let me take a poke at this. How about the IAM & TWU people at Southwest?
Good contracts, good wages, no outsourced ramps....
Hell, a good portion of the Delta employees are better off than we are, and they are non union. Remember the vote following the NW merger? Looks like a majority of them were fed up with the IAM too...
Nuff said....

 

[Harry Callahan]

All I can speak on is the area I work in here.

The vast majority are at best disillusioned with the union, they think that the union does next to nothing for them and that they don't do much for their bucks as far as dues. I'm not stating how I feel or don't feel just observing what I hear people say.

Exact same where I work.

 

[wings396]

I have no love for the company, but the union made it easy for them. It seems that the CWA group faired much better than we did in several areas. As you know we were on par with them for many years, but not anymore...
They have more vacation, and their outsourcing language leaves ours in the dust, and we can't leave out the profit sharing....

We can keep this pissing match going back and forth indefinitely. I'm done, and as you can see there are others out there who are on the same page. We pay dues for a service, and we expect to get it. It's really very basic.

 

[robbedagain]

the first two were denied typical of usairways and the stat mgr but only after I had filed the grievance in my station thru the AGC who drove from PHL at that time. Then Step Two I had the grievance denied again according to the AGC On to the third step, met with Weston and the sta mgr with the AGC in my station that was jan 2011 (grievance was filed July 2009)
The AGC also informed me as well as weston that he filed with the Systm Board and Arbitration but at the same time he also is trying to schedul mediation Since Jan 2011 I have not had any kind of date for either the arb or mediation. I dont know how long itll take but since I filed in July 09 its fast approachng 3 full yrs

 

[700UW]

Then you need to contact your AGC, if you dont get anywhere, call the District, if you dont, then call the International and ask for the Transportation Department or better yet E-Mail Tom Brickner, he is a former UA Ramp, who is the Transportation Coordinator.

Or get in touch with Tom Regan, is a GLR, former US Mechanic who is assisting the ramp in their negotiations.

Tregan@iamaw.org.

Tbrickner@iamaw.org

 

[john john]

A 401K is a pension program established by employers. Contributions to qualified 401-K retirement plans are tax deferred and contributions are voluntary. Check out this site for complete explanation.
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc424.htm

Better call the IRS John John, as your info is wrong.

USAirways has to contribute of the employee’s bi-weekly pay (base pay, shift 3
premium, and overtime, to a 401(k) account for each employee per CWA CBA
. The employee is not required to contribute to get the company contribution "non-elective contribution "

 

[700UW]

Then its not a true 401k, go read the IRS regulations.

 

[john john]

Then its not a true 401k, go read the IRS regulations.

it’s a fake 401K. along with pilots F/A dispatchers and non-union US employees

 

[700UW]

Maybe you wont look so foolish if you actually took the time to research and educate yourself.

According to the IRS a 401k is an account funded by pre-tax contributions from an employee's salary.

But I guess your smarter than the IRS and the laws and regulations of the United States.

Article 28 – Pension
2 A. Effective January 6, 2005, the company will implement a non-elective
3 contribution of 3% of the employee’s bi-weekly pay (base pay, shift
4 premium, and overtime, to a 401(k) account for each employee covered
5 by this Agreement. The 401(k) account also allows employees to defer
6 pay on a pre-tax basis. The employee contribution is voluntary and is
7 limited based upon Internal Revenue Service regulations.
8 The company will implement the following are additional features of the
9 401 (k) plan:
10 • Permit after-tax contributions to 401(k) plan.
11 • Establish brokerage account in 401(k) plan. All administrative
12 costs associated with the brokerage account will be borne by the
13 employee.
14 • Permit catch-up contributions to 401(k) Plan pursuant to IRC
15 Section 414(v).
16 • Increase pre-tax elective deferrals in 401(k) Plan to 22% for
17 non-highly compensated employees.
18 • Add periodic distributions to 401(k) Plan.
19 B. In order to be eligible for the Defined Contribution Retirement Program,
20 the employee must be 18 years of age or older with at least 90 days of
21 continuous service. This includes part-time and full-time employees.
22 Participation in the 401(k)is automatic.

Non-elective means you cannot control where the company match money goes. A 401k lets you handle all the money and its investments.