IAM Mech. & Related Thread

[allstrike]

NLRA and its wage and hour division have nothing to do with workers under the RLA, the RLA is administered by the NMB, not the NLRB.

I guess you fail to realize the M&R CBA was abrogated in Chapter 11, we never reached a deal with the company, they gave an final offer and the membership ratified it.

I still have the CBA we propsed to the company that they rejected, I was on the NC.

I never said they had anything to do with it,I said they said if it were under the NLRA it would be illegal,but its under the RLA.

Ya we ratified it,Then the language was worked out. ( Ron H,Bill F,Tony G...and company )

How can the judge abrocate any thing under the railway labor act? And did the union appeal Mitchells decision.?

 

[lithuanian]

700UW/ Who are YOU? If you know so much, are you IAM? And if you're not, why do you claim to know what is correct! Just, who represents us and where do any of us stand. This is CRAP!

Just wait till this CRAP goes down next week. AMEN!

 

[700UW]

It was abrogated under the Chapter 11 bankrupcty code Section 1113, the bankruptcy code trumps the RLA.

However, the company may determine to ask the court for permission to reject our collective bargaining agreements.

Section 1113 of the bankruptcy code lays out the rules an employer must follow if it
determines to seek to reject labor contracts. It ensures that negotiations between a
Chapter 11 employer and a union occur before the company asks the court to allow it to
reject a collective bargaining agreement. It lays out the stringent standard by which a
bankruptcy court must evaluate an application to reject an agreement, and it establishes a
time frame in which the court may make its determination.

A collective bargaining agreement remains in effect, and the collective bargaining
process continues, after the filing of a bankruptcy petition “unless and untilâ€￾ the company
complies with the provisions of Section 1113. Accordingly, before the court may
authorize the rejection of a collective bargaining agreement the company must prove to
the court that the following nine (9) requirements have been met:

1. The company must have made a proposal to the union.
2. The proposal must be based upon the most complete and reliable information available at the time of the proposal.
3. The modifications must be necessary to permit reorganization.
4. The modifications must provide that all affected parties are treated fairly and equitably.
5. The company must provide the union with such relevant information as is necessary to evaluate the proposal.
6. The company must have met with the collective bargaining
representative at reasonable times subsequent to making the proposal.
7. The debtor must have negotiated with the union concerning the proposal in good faith.
8. The union must have refused to accept the proposal without good cause.
9. The balance of the equities must clearly favor rejection of the agreement.

If the court agrees that the company has met these conditions, it may authorize the rejection of the collective bargaining agreement.

The decision is final.

 

[Awa Contract]

The Point is that we need to vote NO on thursday!! This TA does not make your bankruptcy contract worth extending. This is Dougie's "0" cost contract.

 

[awausairtech]

NOONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONOONONONONONONONONONO
NONOONOONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONOONONONONONONONONONONONONONOON
ONONONONONO..........................NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MY VOTE LOL..................LOL.

 

[awausairtech]

HAY 700 GO LOW ON YOUR IAM MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[awausairtech]

HP broke off talks with the IBT before the merger was completed.

Airlines employees are not covered under the NLRA, they are covered under the RLA.

There are no parts of the CBA that are illegal.

NO WE DID NOT !!!!!!!!! THE COMPANY DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THIS MERGER MY LITTLE STOCK CLEARK! !!!!!! OR SHOULD I SAY MY IAM SUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 OOOOOOOOOOOO AND BUY THE WAY DID THE IBT FARM OUT ANY THING ??????????????/ AT AWA???????????????? READ THE CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY HOOODED IAM BOY..........

 

[700UW]

Please reread what I wrote, it says:

HP broke off talks with the IBT.

 

[awausairtech]

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This T/A will bring 2 groups of beaten and down trodden people under a POS give back contract that will at the same time take away any protection in case of a merger.

So ponder these thoughts among yourselves and ask,am I tired of hearing everyday that the sky is falling we had better do this.Or do you want to be true respected professionals again and tell the lazy union members who havnt picked up a wrench in 20 yrs working for the IAM and the Bean counting company they sleep with pound sand.

Its time to take back our own self respect....

This msg is approved by me...ALLSTRIKE
(YOU GOT TO LOVE A PERSON THAT CAN THINK)

 

[awausairtech]

READ POST #22 IBT DID NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[awausairtech]

WE AT USAIR ARE UNDER THE SAME GLASS HOUSE THAT WE AT AWA HAVE BEEN UNDER FOR YEARS!!!!! TIME FOR YOU TOO LEARN FROM THE YOUNG PUPS OLD DOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[awausairtech]

700 WHAT WOULD YOU VOTE!!!!! YES OR NO ???????????????? BET I KNOW..............

 

[700UW]

READ POST #22 IBT DID NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me explain this one more time I said:

HP BROKE OFF TALKS WITH THE IBT. READ IT AGAIN, HP BROKE OFF TALKS WITH THE IBT.

And that is all I am going to say, no where did I say the IBT broke off the talks.

I dont have a vote, and I would not make a guess, unless the CBA and its costs were totally explained to me.

 

[av60]

First of all the IAMNPF is seperate from the IAM it is run by the Trustees appointed by the companies participating in it and the IAM.

The union wont take the 5%, the company will cease paying it and contribute to the IAMNPF for each member.

"Take, cease paying," what ever you want to call it. If this gets approved every friday i lose 5%. That 5% is MY money put into an account with MY name on it.

Now if the iamnpf is such a good deal why couldn't the NC get us into it and leave our 401k alone?
I dont mind giving up space positve tickets for iam officals, if it gets me into the iamnpf.
that seems pretty cost neutral.

 

[700UW]

The company would not pay a 401k match and a DBP, it is one or the other.

The Space Positive for UB is not a cost item, we had it on the East side before the merger.

Would you like it if you had a arbitration and your Union reps and lawyers could not get there because they couldnt get on a flight?

Or better yet, waste dues money on buying tickets?