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Is It Right Screwing Over The Airline Operations

Should people be fired/held accountable for severe disruptions

  • Yes, people should be fired disciplined for this

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  • No, it is just a part of unionism and negotiations, ect.

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LGA / 037 said:
Do You Really think passengers whom are the bottom line care about your statement ?
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I doubt it. We do want clean bathrooms though, recently dumped and smelling fresh.
 
700UW said:
Why don't you get rid of unproductive executives and managers who have run this company into the ground.

Well if the passengers knew, they would know why this company is in shambles.

You forget those very said employees have all ready given back 20,000 less jobs and over $2.4 billion in concessions since 9/02.
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ONCE AGAIN, I WILL REPEAT IT . DO YOY THINK THE CUSTOMERS WHOM ARE THE BOTTOM LINE CARE ABOUT YOUR STATEMENT ?
 
From my experience, the customers dont know the differenct between Bruce Lakefield and Bug's Bunny. They only see the front line employees as the face of USAir. It is on us that thay take out their frustrations. We are face of USAir and they couldn't care less who sets in CCY.
 
700UW said:
Why don't you get rid of unproductive executives and managers who have run this company into the ground.

You can spin all you want, the bottom line is the customer. I agree, your company is over staffed with management. The good ole boy system is still in place and housecleaning is required if ever to succeed. This still does not give employees the right to disregard their responsibility, especially during the holidays. Those employees may have sealed their own fate. Hope Judge Mitchell wasn't flying through Philly. :blink:
 
airbiiguy said:
"Maybe they went to college and achieved advanced degrees. Maybe they worked hard to put themselves in a position to earn those wages".
WT%F man, I pity your kind...I have a college degree in somethign that isnt the easiest thing in the world, that being said I dont think I'm above someone who doesnt have a degree. Jsut becuase someone doesnt have a degree doesnt mean they are worthless, these people have done the same job for 20-30 years! give them a break. Thats what they are good at, if everyone was a doctor there would be no janitors and so forth. People like you n925ps, make me disgusted with the world at large. You aint s**t cuz you have a degree and I can talk cuz I have two!! I know a lot of dummies who have degrees who are WORTHLESS, most liekly someone liek you who thinks they are a gift from the heavens. Id liek to know what your degree is in HRM??
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You missed my point. Some people chose to become better educated because jobs they sought required higher education as a pre-requisite for employment.

Others were happy to have jobs that required nothing beyond a HS/GED and a strong back or a pleasant personality and ability to work with the public. No degree required.

Obviously, the USAirways BOD has provided what they deemed appropriate compensation to W&G, Siegel, Lakefield, Crellin, Baldanza..... This is not Class Warfare as you imply. It's just BUSINESS. And business as usual at USAirways has not been kind to the employee groups since "Parity Plus 1%" accidentally proved to be a windfall for labor. If only short lived.

I've been doing the same job for the past 27 years. Presently, the state of the industry I chose as my career is in dire straits. Except for one prominent and successful company. Since my destiny has been controlled by the Democratic process and the will of the majority my wages and retirement have been decimated. At this point, there is nothing I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind words. Hope your double degree gets you twice as much money at your next employer. You deserve it.
 
planejane said:
700UW said:
Why don't you get rid of unproductive executives and managers who have run this company into the ground.

You can spin all you want, the bottom line is the customer. I agree, your company is over staffed with management. The good ole boy system is still in place and housecleaning is required if ever to succeed. This still does not give employees the right to disregard their responsibility, especially during the holidays. Those employees may have sealed their own fate. Hope Judge Mitchell wasn't flying through Philly. :blink:
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A more accurate statement is Lakefield is getting what he's been working at . . . . an angry, screwed-over workforce. At some point to an abused employee, it just doesn't matter anymore. Just as in military units . . . . bad morale is almost ALWAYS the fault of poor leadership. Bad managements get the workforce they deserve.
 
I say all you loyal employees should band together and insist the company deal with these problem employees. It's time to take your company back. Show some intergrity and get the scum off your property.

You can't get the scum off this property. The scum at USAirways is called management. If they weren't around, there would be nobody to eviscerate wages, screw employees, abrogate previously agreed to contracts, and squander shareholder money.

I said it a long time ago but since it bears repeating, I will say it again: USAirways may be too far gone already, but if there is a chance to fix it....it will require a whole new management team with a whole new way of doing business.

Trying to pay for management ineptitude on the backs of employees is not the way to go. You do that.....then act surprised when the employees don't like being treated as slaves or indentured servants?

This goes back to contract abrogation and the right to strike. Some foolish people think the court can toss the contract out the window and impose a new one, yet enjoin the employees from striking.

Excuse me, but Lincoln freed the slaves.

If a contract is imposed, the employees have every right (and maybe even an obligation) to walk off their jobs.

It is true, the company can then terminate every last one of them for the walk out. But the court can not order folks to work under a contract to which they did not agree. And the company may have a really tough time finding employees willing to work in the current environment and the wages they have offered.

Do you really think that employees will want to take the abuse from passengers griping about the delayed flight to Charlotte when, for the same wages, they can work in the sandwich shop down the concourse.....there, the only complaint is about too much mustard.
 
planejane said:
Hopefully, aborgation could end that rule and all the unproductive can be shown the door. It would serve them well. Your the laughing stock of the airline industry.
I say all you loyal employees should band together and insist the company deal with these problem employees. It's time to take your company back. Show some intergrity and get the scum off your property.
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Well, that would leave no one in senior managment.
 
planejane said:
If your part of the problem, you cannot be part of the solution.
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Again, that would include all of senior managment.
 
The problem is leadership, this company has NONE.

Lakefield makes more then Parker at WN, and Neeleman at B6, those two companies are profitable US is not.

He makes $425,000 a year and he can't take a paycut, but you force employees who make $17 to take a 21% paycut, that sealed US' fate.

No unionized employees at CAL have taken paycuts yet, but all the Senior Executives have, that is leadership.

Lakefield has no airline experience, Crellin has let the place go to hell and Glass has destroyed labor relations.

You reward Wolf, Gangwal, Nagin, Siegel and Cohen $42 million for failure.

You all need to realize this, the employees have stepped up over and over, only to be screwed again. They simply have had enough.

Dr Bronner needs to clean house on the 2nd and 8th floor, or you might as well padlock the place.
 
And all of this leads to the inevitable conclusion by the judge.

Allowing Outsourcing of noncertificated or non flight crew employees is easier, less costly, and cuts out all of the stupid crap like this.

Hard to argue against such after screwball shoot yourself in the foot actions like these occur on such a large scale.

Putting yourself out of a job is not a "work action", it is moronic. So the Grinkes fiof not just steal our passenger;s Christmas, they also set themselves up for a welfare New Year

Duh.
 
So your solution is to screw 88 other cities because of what some disgruntled employees did in PHL?

Real smart, NOT!

And the ramp service companies are worse when it comes to service and reliablity, those workers don't care.
 
hey rico this could be the begining of the end even for your job......
guess you'll be hard pressed flying an empty plane....
oh no , could this be the end of rico ??
 
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