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[KCFlyer]

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Are you seriously that stupid?

It is SUPPOSED to work that way. It is SUPPOSED to increase the price of foreign goods.

And YOU will pay that price. Please...cite one company that moved or sourced production from China to the US. Not from China to Vietnam or Malaysia....From China to the USA.

The idea is when the foreign good is more expensive than the local producers can compete.

Again...just one company that moved or sourced production from China to the US. Maybe Trump ties?

Why would you buy Chinese goods when the price has increased 25 percent and you can buy an American made one for a similar price?

I've bought American jeans and shirts. Union made. Way before Trump. Did you? Is Trump's clothing line now produced in the US?

I can't believe I am having to explain this to a grown ass man.

I can't believe you are arguing over things that haven't happened. No manufacturers have closed Chinese operations and moved back here. The only thing that has changed is that YOU are paying more for things.

 

[Anthony R Hopkins]

Wonder how many working class people that fed and housed.

Do you actually believe your BS?

Trying to argue with KYC seems senseless. He does nothing more then practice the art of “non sequitur.”

 

[KCFlyer]

Trying to argue with KYC seems senseless. He does nothing more then practice the art of “non sequitur.”

So addressing each point made by La is a non sequitur. Do you know what that means?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

YOu mioght want to look at where Bentley and Lexus are built.

I am no expert in car manufacturing but a Google search states the Lexus ES 350 is built in Kentucky.

Also cars may be assembled in certain places but the parts and raw materials used to build the car and parts are sourced from all over the world.

Then there is shipping and the car dealer.

Then the maintenance that has to be done on the car.

So again..... how many Americans did that Lexus or Bentley feed feed?

 

[KCFlyer]

I am no expert in car manufacturing but a Google search states the Lexus ES 350 is built in Kentucky.

Also cars may be assembled in certain places but the parts and raw materials used to build the car and parts are sourced from all over the world.

Then there is shipping and the car dealer.

Then the maintenance that has to be done on the car.

So again..... how many Americans did that Lexus or Bentley feed feed?

If a car is built in England (Bentley or Rolls) and shipped to the US, odds are that the shipping costs went to a British company. It was unloaded by a union dockworker, then sent to the Bentley dealer. Because there aren't a lot of Bentley's on the road, the number of salesmen needed to sell them is rather small. And yes...there are Bentley mechanics. But again, with so few on the roads, there aren't a lot.

But tell me again....while we are paying higher prices for goods made in China, how many American jobs have the tariffs created? Is it enough to offset the subsidies to farmers who took a hit because of the tariffs?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

If a car is built in England (Bentley or Rolls) and shipped to the US, odds are that the shipping costs went to a British company. It was unloaded by a union dockworker, then sent to the Bentley dealer. Because there aren't a lot of Bentley's on the road, the number of salesmen needed to sell them is rather small. And yes...there are Bentley mechanics. But again, with so few on the roads, there aren't a lot.

Delivered to the dealership by truck, maintained by American mechanics, fueled by American gas stations, paying taxes to the DoT.

The parts used to repair the car are stored in an American warehouse.

The car is insured by an American company.

You are trying to focus only on what supports your agenda instead of the reality of the economic flow that overpriced luxury car creates.

So I ask again.... how many American families did that Bentley feed?

But tell me again....while we are paying higher prices for goods made in China, how many American jobs have the tariffs created? Is it enough to offset the subsidies to farmers who took a hit because of the tariffs?

You are wanting me to provide you a short term answer to a long term goal. I can't do that but what I can do is post a current example of a simple product made in the United States and China (see the example of a screwdriver below) and do a price comparison using specific parameters (type and size) and comparable features (cushion grip). As you can see the screwdriver made in China is actually 2 cents higher. Given the choice between the made in China screwdriver or the slightly cheaper made in America screwdriver which one would YOU buy?

Adding tariffs to Chinese goods will increase the cost of goods and allow American companies to offer goods at a competitive price point (which is exactly what tariffs are supposed to do).

Klein Tools Screwdriver made in America. #2 Profilated Phillips Head Screwdriver with 4 in. Round Shank and Cushion Grip Handle from Home Depot.
$9.95
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-T...V2h-tBh2-KAEhEAQYDSABEgIIwvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Milwaukee Tools Screwdriver made in China. #2 Phillips Screwdriver with 4 in. Round Shank and Cushion Grip Handle from Home Depot.
$9.97
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk..._Alternatives_Non_HDhome-_-NA-_-303042144-_-N



Craftsman is building a tool manufacturing plant here in the United States, Fort Worth, Texas according to this article dated May 15th, 2019.
https://toolguyd.com/craftsman-hand-tools-usa-factory-news-052019/
"They also say that production costs will be “in line” with the tools currently being made in China."

Is that statement due to tariffs on Chinese goods?

The boom in American manufacturing can't be denied.
https://www.industryweek.com/leadership/america-s-new-factory-building-frenzy

In my opinion the tariffs appear to be working but it will take time to see how it all plays out.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

KCFlyer this is a bit off topic but I would like to challenge you to a game.

I want to see what your answer is (or if you are even capable of providing one).

Hypothetical.

Climate change.

Let's assume the left has an ulterior motive motive regarding climate change. What do you think that motive could possibly be?

Let's see if you can play "devils advocate" and look beyond leftist talking points and come up with a logical motive.

 

[Dog Wonder]

The ulterior motive on climate change? Give Rush something to boohoo about between Viagra commercials.

 

[delldude]

So addressing each point made by La is a non sequitur. Do you know what that means?

Yeah, you like the cartoon.

 

[delldude]

The ulterior motive on climate change? Give Rush something to boohoo about between Viagra commercials.

The alarmists keep telling us their concern about global warming is all about man’s stewardship of the environment. But we know that’s not true. A United Nations official has now confirmed this.

At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said.

Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/

 

[KCFlyer]

KCFlyer this is a bit off topic but I would like to challenge you to a game.

I want to see what your answer is (or if you are even capable of providing one).

Hypothetical.

Climate change.

Let's assume the left has an ulterior motive motive regarding climate change. What do you think that motive could possibly be?

Let's see if you can play "devils advocate" and look beyond leftist talking points and come up with a logical motive.

I have said several times before that I wish the focus was NOT on climate change, but on pollution. One side can argue about climate change but only an ass would argue against clean air (but there are a lot of asses out there). The steps taken to clean the air would result in a lowering of carbon emissions. Instead, you get Limbaugh, Hannity and Trump rants about it.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I have said several times before that I wish the focus was NOT on climate change, but on pollution. One side can argue about climate change but only an ass would argue against clean air (but there are a lot of asses out there). The steps taken to clean the air would result in a lowering of carbon emissions. Instead, you get Limbaugh, Hannity and Trump rants about it.

OK.....

Do you want to actually accept the challenge of answering the question I asked of you? Because, what you said had nothing to do with how the question was framed.

I asked IF the left had an ulterior motive motive regarding climate change what do you think that motive could possibly be?

If you are incapable of providing an answer that falls within the parameters of the how the question was framed than just say so.

 

[Dog Wonder]

The only answer you want is one that agrees with your agenda.

 

[KCFlyer]

OK.....

Do you want to actually accept the challenge of answering the question I asked of you? Because, what you said had nothing to do with how the question was framed.

I asked IF the left had an ulterior motive motive regarding climate change what do you think that motive could possibly be?

If you are incapable of providing an answer that falls within the parameters of the how the question was framed than just say so.

As I have said. I am not happy that they focused on climate change. They do not speak for me, so I'm not sure why I should defend what I don't agree with. I DO agree that we should continue and improve our efforts towards clean air and water. But we are rolling BACK regulations on that while they deal with people like you who like to scream that "global warming is a hoax". The trouble is - you just know how to scream "global warming is a hoax" and have not formed an opinion of your own.

 

[Anthony R Hopkins]

The trouble is - you just know how to scream "global warming is a hoax" and have not formed an opinion of your own.

That's funny coming from you.