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Obama Bows to Muslim King !

I say stuff protocol. Courtesy and common sense ought to take precedent over protocol designed by bean pushers and diplomats.

That's a problem, Garf, you don't have a say. That's a good thing. You speak not from knowledge of all the different international cultures and traditions that each head of state honors and respects, but from a crass set of manners. If they followed your practical simplistic answer, there would never be an agreement reached. You might want to pick up a copy of Emily Post or Amy Vanderbilt book on manners.
 
That's a problem, Garf, you don't have a say. That's a good thing. You speak not from knowledge of all the different international cultures and traditions that each head of state honors and respects. If they followed your practical simplistic answer, there would never be an agreement reached.


I am not talking about ignoring religious and cultural ideas. I am talking about if the Queen puts her arm around the First lady there is nothing wrong with the First Lady responding in kind.
 
I say stuff protocol. Courtesy and common sense ought to take precedent over protocol designed by bean pushers and diplomats.

"Courtesy and common sense"........ (shakes head).... 🙄

How would 'U' have any 'ANY' inkling of either? :stupid:
 
Our media here keeps proping him up, but the international press has a much different view of him. Obama is being laughed at in international circles.

I have been in Paris for a significant amount of time for the past couple months, and I generally get my news from France 24 while out there. I believe it is funded by the french government. I have not seen what you are speaking of. While I agree that there isn't as much "infatuation" as we have in the US, I do not think France 24 has been showing a much different view. Of course, that is only anecdotal evidence from 1 channel in 1 other country.
 
I have been in Paris for a significant amount of time for the past couple months, and I generally get my news from France 24 while out there. I believe it is funded by the french government. I have not seen what you are speaking of. While I agree that there isn't as much "infatuation" as we have in the US, I do not think France 24 has been showing a much different view. Of course, that is only anecdotal evidence from 1 channel in 1 other country.

So by your own admission means absolutly nothing?
 
So by your own admission means absolutly nothing?

Well; it means exactly what is stated: Simply anecdotal evidence of what I experienced... which is apparently different from what novaqt experienced or, if he/she hasn't experienced first hand, believes of the foreign press. Other than what I have experienced, I cannot and do not presume to know how the foreign press is treating the situation.
 
Well; it means exactly what is stated: Simply anecdotal evidence of what I experienced... which is apparently different from what novaqt experienced or, if he/she hasn't experienced first hand, believes of the foreign press. Other than what I have experienced, I cannot and do not presume to know how the foreign press is treating the situation.

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So by your own admission means absolutly nothing?


Given that GTL info is based on first hand knowledge of programing he has seen with his own eyes and your info is based on a Ouija board and a magic eight ball I think I'll go with GTL theory over yours.

I sure hope you are pretty.
 
I am not talking about ignoring religious and cultural ideas. I am talking about if the Queen puts her arm around the First lady there is nothing wrong with the First Lady responding in kind.

Sorry Garf, but Michell Obama put her hand on the Queen first. Nice try though ! :down:
 
it's amazing what a big deal you've made over a bow ....

several days later that bow hasn't changed my life in any way .... i doubt the president is thinking about it ... the bow hasn't helped to improve our economy ...

in all likely hood that gesture proably helped to improve relatios slightly ... but proably not to the point where they will give us free oil ....


i don't care , most american's don't care ....



WHO CARES????????
 
I thought it was a leader who realized that saving his country from it's self was more important the spending his country into bankruptcy preparing for war that would never happen.

Thanks for clearing that up for me though. :jerry:
A leader who realized saving a country from itself???? You lost me there......I guess you meant OBAMA???Reagan.....Bush...1, 2?? What??....If you meant Obimi, your not even worthy of me regarding your opines, because you truly do not get the true meaning of America.

I know where you were trying to go with the 2nd part, but, the 1st????

I think you cleared up for me pretty well where you stand :stupid:
 
I think a handshake would have sufficed. However I wonder where some of you people were when GWB was walking around holding the kings hand like they were on a first date.
 
Bush held the hand of the King of S.A., does that make him gay? No. It's a sign of respect. Seems to me if you are negotiating with someone and want something from them, pissing them off is not a good option.
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Covered on the first page, 3 days ago............Get with the program :down:
 
Bush held the hand of the King of S.A., does that make him gay? No. It's a sign of respect. Seems to me if you are negotiating with someone and want something from them, pissing them off is not a good option.
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Covered on the first page, 3 days ago............Get with the program :down:

Did I say it made him gay? It was meant more as a joke, get with the program.

What I see is a double standard. Bush kissing and holding hands, OK. Obama's half assed bow, end of the world.
 
It it were me I'd invite or even visit several Islamic Clerics that are widely respected throught the Middle East and not so gently inform them that if ONE US citizen gets so much as a hang nail from a terrorist attack on US Soil, Mecca will cease to exist except as a memory and I'd launch the missile myself on National Television.

Killing people who have nothing to do with a terrorist act is counterproductive to say the least.
 

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