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OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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I'll come clean for Nic: Years ago a very good friend of mine was a flight test engineer at Edwards. He had flown with Yeager and they were acquaintences. While visiting my friend he introduced me to Yeager. Spent the better part of an evening with them. At the time I was a civilian, attempting to get into medical school and it was Yeager who influenced me to consider flying. When I was rejected from med school for the second year in a row I joined the Air National Guard and the rest is history.

Met Yeager again at a dining in where he bought me a drink afterward and yet again when he was passing through McConnell AFB while I was in F4 RTU. He was very pleased to see me "in the bag". He said, "f.... that doctor #### - you got a real job, boy".

Can't claim to be best buds but I do feel qualified to say the guy has an ego and he would be the first to tell you that "if you got no ego you won't do s..t".

While some of Yeager's arrogance turns me off, I have to say I'm impressed with his accomplishments. Good for you having a drink with him. I'd take it, but would rather have one with Bob Hoover.
 
Can't claim to be best buds but I do feel qualified to say the guy has an ego and he would be the first to tell you that "if you got no ego you won't do s..t".

"if you got no ego you won't do s..t". That much we can agree with.
 
Gee thanks, but my vocabulary is fine. If you can remember, or go back and look, I put a big old capital IF in there. I realized that the back and forth was taking a bad turn and I shut up and went to the source. Hence the last reply.

I don't understand your support for Ferguson except that he is 100%, without exception on the west side. Thing is, I think his words hurt instead of helping you guys sometimes. His words prior to and during the last elections assured his defeat, and I think that may come back to haunt you.

Hint: It wasn't Ferguson. I do support the statement because, as I said, it was an appropriate summation of east actions. Better yet, it was an eye opener for the APA president and that is priceless. If he didn't know how dysfunctional ucrapa is before, he certainlly does now.
 
While some of Yeager's arrogance turns me off, I have to say I'm impressed with his accomplishments. Good for you having a drink with him. I'd take it, but would rather have one with Bob Hoover.

"I have to say I'm impressed with his accomplishments." As am I, to say the least!

I had the pleasure of talking with Mr. Hoover back in '87 at an after-airshow party. He's a most impressive, true gentleman, and I always loved watching him fly. What lovely energy management and just overall, plain smooth stuff. That man is a practiced, master Pilot. Since we've a momentary pause in the hostilities:

 
Hint: It wasn't Ferguson. I do support the statement because, as I said, it was an appropriate summation of east actions. Better yet, it was an eye opener for the APA president and that is priceless. If he didn't know how dysfunctional ucrapa is before, he certainlly does now.

Really? Because in an email he said it was. Please tell me that you are well into cocktail hour.
 
While some of Yeager's arrogance turns me off, I have to say I'm impressed with his accomplishments. Good for you having a drink with him. I'd take it, but would rather have one with Bob Hoover.

I agree with both of your points.
 
"I have to say I'm impressed with his accomplishments." As am I, to say the least!

I had the pleasure of talking with Mr. Hoover back in '87 at an after-airshow party. He's a most impressive, true gentleman and I always loved watching him fly. What lovely energy management and just overall, plain smooth stuff.

Really. I watched his show in DAY around that time and was truly impressed and, I admit, envious.
 
Really. I watched his show in DAY around that time and was truly impressed and, I admit, envious.

Agreed. I met him at the Cleveland show that year. He really presented himself properly as the true pilot-gentleman, as we all should, but too few of us sometimes do...myself certainly included there. 😉
 
Excuse them. The bad news on the western front is particularly alarming. Parker is not appealing and the wives are finished funding the NICOLAU debacle.
 
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